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The result was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE. Herostratus 19:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural depictions of Sammy Davis, Jr.

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  • My opinion on that would be that the only part of it that might possibly be acceptable in the main article is a list of the people who played him. I can't see any need to clutter up the main article with such gems as how They Might Be Giants said his name once. Otto4711 13:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as indiscriminate information. Plasticbottle 02:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • No comparison? Have a look at the featured list's embryonic form as it was on October 26, 2005 (two days before I started editing).[1] Doesn't look promising, does it? Wikipedia has a large contingent of deletionists who probably would have jettisoned that material from the project. A similar wholesale deletion actually happened at Alexander the Great, but fortunately a deletionist was conscientious enough to repost the material to the talk page so that it could get rescued as a separate list. Where's the dividing line? The facts on this page are notable and verifiable - maybe not so highbrow by today's standards, but exactly the sort of information typically discarded as ephemera until it's nearly impossible for later generations of scholars to recover it. In the late twentieth century it took a doctoral dissertation to track down all occurrences of Joan of Arc in film. Many of the early prints no longer exist at all. Electrons are cheap - let's not repeat that destructive cycle. DurovaCharge! 03:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Electrons are cheap" is also not particularly compelling. We have policies and guidelines and articles that don't meet them are deleted regardless of how cheap electrons are. And no, there is no comparison between the JoA or the ATG lists and this one, which seeks to capture such vitally significant items as Adam Sandler's singing the name in a song, which is in no way notable. Otto4711 04:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sarcasm is not particularly compelling. Social historians read such data as evidence that this individual remains known to younger generations. One of the principal questions such people must address is whether a celebrity of the past is a forgotten name or an iconic figure. If one happens to be a biographer preparing a book proposal about Sammy Davis, Jr., the ability to cite recent references such as Adam Sandler's is quite meaningful. DurovaCharge! 00:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wasn't being sarcastic at all. Perhaps that word doesn't mean what you think it means. And may I also add, free of sarcasm, that if any writer proposing or publisher considering a book proposal about Sammy would even mention the Adam Sandler song in the course of the negotiations, let alone sell the book on it, I'll eat Sammy's glass eye. "Oh yeah, all the kids'll be running out to snap up the book based on their intense curiosity about Sammy that was ignited by Adam Sandler's throwaway line in a novelty song!" Otto4711 18:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.