The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, as consensus here indicates that deletion is not in the best interests of the encyclopaedia.  Skomorokh, barbarian  03:05, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conservatism in North America (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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This article duplicates content in other articles and provides an original synthesis of sources to develop a concept of North American conservatism. Although several articles have been written comparing Tories in Canada and Republicans in the US, there is little or no literature comparing conservatism in those countries with Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. The Four Deuces (talk) 17:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The supposed duplication of information only exists in the Canada section and the United States section; they serve as summaries of the Conservatism in Canada article and the Conservatism in the United States article. This is standard practice as outlined here. As I stated in the merge discussion, conservatism in North America has been studied as a concept unto itself as separate from conservatism throughout the rest of the world and therefore deserves its own article. See this book [1] for information about a conference dedicated to conservatism in North America as a continent. There are strong historical connections between conservatism in Carribean countries and there are strong historical connections between conservatism in Central American countries. Conservatism in the Northern American countries, the United States and Canada, has been widely compared and contrasted in political literature and such comparison is worthy of encyclopaedic attention. The best way of addressing these connections is the solution which already exists: the existence of the Conservatism in North America article. Neelix (talk) 19:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "North America" referred to in the book is limited to the United States and Canada. The majority of the book treats conservatism in the two countries separately. The Four Deuces (talk) 19:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There does not seem to be an overriding "North American conservatism" apart from the conservatism in the various individual countries, which is best covered in their individual articles. I appreciate the work that Neelix has done, but this is essentially a one-person article, and I do not think the subject is notable. Rick Norwood (talk) 12:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

• Delete This seems to be a collection of mini-articles about conservatism in various countries. There doesn't seem to be an over-all "North American conservatism." Northwestgnome (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - This article does not assert that there is an overriding "North American conservatism." Just as the Religion in Europe article discusses the various forms of religion throughout the continent even though there is no overriding European religion, it is important for there to be a Conservatism in North America article to explain the differences, similarities, and interactions between the forms of conservatism present in North America. Neelix (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep No real reason even proffered for deletion. An article on (say) African Politics would not require that all African nations have identical political systems, so that sort of argument fails. Collect (talk) 14:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: "Conservatism in North America varies in form from country to country, but is consistent in its attempt to preserve heritage and tradition" what does even mean? Its a sketchy article.--Milowent (talk) 17:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep At this point, the article does a good job summarizing the ideology in each of the various nations that make up North America. A couple of the arguments for deletion take issue with it being a collection of 'mini-articles about conservatism in various countries' and lacking an 'overriding North American conservatism'. If the article was 'North American conservatism', I would wholly agree with that. But as 'Conservatism in North America', the article delivers what it promises - a summary of the state of conservatism in North American countries that do not warrant individual articles (or sections in that country's main article). Furthermore, it appears to be very well-referenced.
  As for the issue of original synthesis, unless it exists throughout the article (I couldn't find it), instances of it would best be addressed and resolved individually.
  -K10wnsta (talk) 21:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: a good article. - Ret.Prof (talk) 02:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.