- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. There is clear SPA/COI going on here, and arguments clearly influenced by that are discounted. That leaves some argument over the sources, and the analysis presented indicating that they are not acceptable is persuasive and was in no way refuted. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:30, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ClearTax (company)[edit]
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Appeal as here. (കാവിന്പുറം is Kāvinpuṛaṃ) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete Blatant WP:PROMO article.--🌀Locomotive207-talk🌀 17:08, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The recent improvements to the article have been enough to sway me to the keep side. WP:PROMO No longer applies here.--🌀Locomotive207-talk🌀 13:48, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Notability is not inherites Fails WP:GNG. Kieem trra (talk) 15:36, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The company has signicant Coverage on Forbes[1], Techcrunch[2] , Entreprenuer[3] websites and is covered extensively in Indian Media. As per the Notability guidelines "The depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered." These references is covering enough Notability Guidelines.-- User:കാവിന്പുറം for page ClearTax (company)
- Keep ClearTax is a well-known brand in India and is known for its Free ITR software which helps Taxpayer file their income tax without any complication.The brand is covered in non PR articles by all popular Media in India like The Hindu[4], Times of India[5], IndianExpress[6] and strongly disagree with Notability issues other editors pointed out. User:AnitaTejwani
- Keep The Indian taxpayers are well-acquainted with the company as nearly 10% of them have filed through their platform [7][8]. The company has been covered multiple times by the Indian mainstream newspapers as well as in the Indian and global venture capital publications[9]. Notable bias might exist among non-Indian editors on the coverage and significance as the operations are limited within the Indian boundaries.
- Keep. While the COI editing and voting at this AFD is an issue, what has substantially changed with this article since the past several AFDs is the sources. There are three sources from 2021 of those listed above which are significant: the one from Forbes India, The Hindu, and TechCrunch. I'm not sure how independent or reliable the Entrepreneur source is (it may be fine), and the other sources are purely promotional garbage or not significant. Ultimately, I do believe that the sources prove WP:SIGCOV and meet the criteria at WP:NCORP. It appears the promotional language of the article has been cleaned up (see this edit), so I think the article is passable at this point. It still needs weeding of some inappropriate sources, but AFD is not cleanup. 4meter4 (talk) 22:51, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, WP:NOTADVERT. MrsSnoozyTurtle 06:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 12:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Page is at ClearTax (company) because the correct title ClearTax was deleted at AfD twice (in addition to some speedy deletions) and the title was salted. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 14:45, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Lets look at the references posted above which have been put forward as meeting the criteria for establishing notability:
- TechCrunch article is a company profile which relies on a generic company description an interview with the founder. There is no "Independent Content", the journalist has not provided any opinion/fact checking/analysis/investigation of their own and has simply repeated the information provided by the company. This reference fails WP:ORGIND.
- Entrepreneur reference is "contributor" piece which is not regarded as reliable for supporting content as per WP:RSP. If it can't be relied on, it cannot be considered for establishing notability, fails WP:RS
- The Hindu reference starts by posing a great question, whether the topic company can be trusted. The article then provides an outline of the "problem" and uses quotations from the founder to explain the "solution". The journalist then describes the experience with the app and includes reactions from social media and som eusers who claim that the app is not easy to use. The article is negative on the app - but there is no criticism *of the company* nor any in-depth information *on the company* which is what is required for a reference to support the notability of the company. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH
- Times of India reference is based entirely on a press release. Several similar "articles" including identical text and quotes can be found including, for example, thenewsminute.com, mint, Apparel Resource, Fashion Network and lots others. Fails WP:ORGIND
- Indian Express reference lists a number of companies who assist users with their tax obligations. The topic company gets a mere mention-in-passing attached to a quotation from the founder. There is no in-depth information on the company and no "Independent Content", fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:ORGIND
- Economic Times reference talks about the number of tax returns having risen over the previous year. The reference doesn't even mention the topic company so I'm confused as to how anyone thinks this reference can be used to establish notability, fails WP:CORPDEPTH
- Clearly there's some confusion from the Keep !voters above who appear not to have correctly analysed the references. It appears that many stop their analysis once the company has been mentioned in a publication and claim that "significant coverage" is all that is required. That is incorrect - the guidelines make it clear that each reference must have both in-depth information and "independent content". None of those references meet the criteria. Topic fails NCORP. HighKing++ 12:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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