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The result was delete. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:18, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chip St. Clair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Appears to be a self-promotional article. No sources given, and searching on Google brings up no sign of any usable RSes to support this BLP. Masem (t) 00:37, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:11, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 05:11, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I added a source from NBC found here [1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loved150 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • That source seems to be more about his father from the son's perspective, and certainly doesn't provide significant coverage of Chip. -Masem (t) 15:14, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the concerns I raised at the corresponding BLPN discussion. The page can then be recreated as a redirect to The Butterfly Garden should that article be kept after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Butterfly Garden is closed.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:03, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: So far all I'm finding are things about his father. It seems like this is his main claim to fame, so offhand if there's enough I'd recommend creating an article about his father, deleting this, and forming a redirect there. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 22:29, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I wasn't able to find anything that would really show notability for St. Clair or his book. When he is covered, it's predominantly in relation to his father, who is suspected by some to be the Oakland Child Killer. I'd suggest mentioning the father there, but there doesn't seem to be much support out there for this theory like there are for the other suspected killers. I'd also have suggested that the father have an article and St. Clair be briefly covered there, but there really isn't a lot out there for the father either. It's possible that there's coverage that isn't on the Internet, but offhand all I could find were these sources here. This just seems a little too light to really justify an article offhand, at least for a crime related article. In any case, St. Clair's article is so promotional that it honestly could be speedied in my opinion. There's some definite spamivanicruft going on here, enough to where I'd say that it would need to be TNT'd and completely re-written to remove all of it. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 22:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• For fair disclosure, I've blocked the account that created this page and the one for the book as a spam only account. Their sole purpose seems to be to come to Wikipedia to promote St. Clair. They can be unblockd, but only if they agree not to add material on St. Clair to Wikipedia or (if any of the articles survive or one on the dad is created) edit any pages related to St. Clair. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 22:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.