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The result was keep. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bilkent Symphony Orchestra

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no independent reliable sources to establish notability Dlabtot (talk) 16:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Though they are foreign language sources, I found many[1] by searching under its Turkish spelling, "Bilkent Senfoni Orkestrası" (its on the Turkish wiki that way [2]). There are some English references to it too, under the English title of the group, enough for me to conclude it is more than just a random orchestra.--Milowent (talk) 21:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The search does return results but... could you specifically point to one or two of those results that fulfill the "independent" and "significant coverage" parts of WP:N? Thanks in advance. Dlabtot (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't translate them all before nominating? (Just kidding.) I will dig a little deeper to find some of the better examples (other readers of this discussion are welcome to assist, especially Turkish speakers). The sources are not the Bilkent college newspaper.--Milowent (talk) 22:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If there were such sources, you would think they would appear on the Turkish version of the article. But that's an unreferenced stub just like this one. Dlabtot (talk) 22:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Other language Wikipedias do not necessarily have the same standards for sourcing that the English Wikipedia does. I wouldn't give that too much weight. — Gwalla | Talk 17:54, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) I added four sources to the article today. There really is tons of coverage in Turkish sources regarding guest players, each season, etc. (One english source is here if you want to search for more examples: [3].) I would also agree with Gwalla that other language wikipedias don't necessarily have the same sourcing standards. In fact, most other wikipedias have little sourcing; but because they are much smaller, they have much less fluff. The Turkish wikipedia has had an article on this orchestra since 2005.--Milowent (talk) 15:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Per improvements to the article since afd initiation.--Pink Bull 16:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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