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The result was keep. Cirt (talk) 00:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BJ McKie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

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Never played at the highest league of his sport and it is unlikely he ever will, fails WP:ATHLETE. MBisanz ^talk 14:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete - Fails WP:ATHLETE. It's somewhat notable that he is the school's all-time high scorer, but I'm not finding any significant coverage of that in reliable independent sources. If someone can find additional sources, I might reconsider as he certainly seems to be an above average player. PDCook (talk) 16:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep - I think he passes WP:ATHLETE with his European career. I wish there were better sources about him, though...other than player profiles. PDCook (talk) 18:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are plenty of newspaper articles about him: [1], [2], [3], etc. However, I can't immediately access most of them. Zagalejo^^^ 20:57, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete Yeah per Pdcook, reliable sources like this do exist and he does seem to be of more note than other college basketball players but he seems to fail WP:ATHLETE. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment/question - He played for the NBA Development League, which I don't think we can call "fully professional." The article was recently updated indicating that he was "released from Hapoel_Afula in the Israeli Basketball Super League." The given reference was a Twitter update, which I removed and tagged as citation needed. Nonetheless, is the Israeli Basketball Super League "fully professional"? I am not familiar with international basketball. PDCook (talk) 22:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Being the all-time leading scorer for an ACC team is pretty good in and of itself. McKie has also had a decent overseas career, particularly in Europe, where he was a Basketball Bundesliga All-Star: [4] (Note - You only get to look at that site for free once a day, so make it count!) He did play in Israel, which should also count towards notability. They have one of the best known leagues outside of the US, and their teams occasionally play against NBA teams. Zagalejo^^^ 22:18, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Since my connection seems to have used up its quota, [5] is an archived version of that page. MBisanz ^talk 22:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So are those European teams considered "fully professional"? If, so he passes WP:Athlete outright. PDCook (talk) 22:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm certain that Israel would count; players can make millions of dollars there (eg, [6]). I don't have a clear idea how players are compensated in Germany, but the league attracts a number of ex-NBA players, so I'm guessing they make a decent living. Zagalejo^^^ 22:43, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Basketball Bundesliga is fully pro, passes WP:ATHLETE. matt91486 (talk) 06:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep passes athlete per above. Ikip 04:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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