- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Star Mississippi 03:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Page is a one line stub and has been since its creation in 2008. The only information on the page is that it is the antonym of rupa, which has a full article of its own. There is no evidence that there is any encyclopaedic topic to cover here and wiktionary is the appropriate wiki project for listing antonyms and word definitions. I don't think a redirect to rupa makes sense as there is no evidence anyone would wish to search for arupa. I note the citation to Arupa-loka on the page is about something else that would be covered in the loka article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge with rupa and expand name (like Apollonian and Dionysian) and redirect both. Actually the information is rupa (formless) is antonym of rupa (form) and describes formless (ideal/mental/spiritual, latter not said yet) in Hinduism: being Atman/Brahman (atman is spirit and Brahman is The Divine) and similar usage in Buddhism (though removed Atman/Brahman, usually retained manas/mind, described with formless aspects). Arupa is used in Hindu (including Sikhi, Ayyavazhi offshoots), Buddhist, presumably also Jain Dharmas' philosophy as many such articles on their astral/mental/spiritual ideas already show: should they be listed/categorized, or what?--dchmelik☀️🕉︎☉🦉🐝🐍☤☆(talk 02:37, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non notable topic and lack of reliable references. I found historical references online for "Arupa Jhana" a Buddhist term that refers to four successive levels of meditation but this is not that. Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Arupa is where that takes place, as India philosophies/religions' own rupa article denotes and shows it's already notable for a long time!--dchmelik☀️🕉︎☉🦉🐝🐍☤☆(talk 04:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- For billions idealists/mentalists/spiritualists (in sense of mental reality, not mental tricks) and dualists who focus more on ideas/mind/spirit than the atomic/material/physical, arupa is of much more interest/worthiness and plausibility to be searched for than rupa. It's likely the two subjects should be combined.--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 06:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Of more importance for our purposes is what reliable sources say about this, rather than what you say, although (for all we can know) you may be the leading world expert on the subject. Cite sources for what you say and then people might believe you. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to consider possible merge or redirect.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. I oppose merge simply because there is nothing here to merge. There is no encyclopaedic subject. I don't think a redirect to rupa is necessary nor particularly useful but I am aware they put little load on the servers so would not oppose one. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:41, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.