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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 18:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Antonio DeVity (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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A poster on the Wikipedia subreddit surfaced this as This page has very purple prose and this person doesn't exist. It's a fake name used by chinese artists that massproduce oil paintings that appeal to people who don't know much about art and are psyched to have a real oil painting.
The sources seem sus. The prose is very sus. I look forward to being proven wrong and finding out this is a Very Important Artist but my gut says otherwise. jengod (talk) 18:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, France, and Italy. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Leaning toward delete. I've been looking into this too, I get no results for him (or his birth name) on various 20th century newspaper databases. The sources cited are art auction related and Worthopedia seems like it might be user generated content. All three references have wording similar to the Wikipedia article, suggesting there's some plagiarism going on here possibly although it's unclear in which direction. For example "His life can be described in a few words: a big passion for painting and art and a great love for Paris" appears in both Wikipedia and the Worthopedia reference. Not sure what's going on exactly but it does not make this source seem credible. I will keep tabs on this to see if anyone can find better sources. --Here2rewrite (talk) 19:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The only results I've been able to find have been of very low quality, and the sources the article itself uses are of dubious quality (as has been noted). No idea about claims of non-existence, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of reputable biographical sources. If anyone does have citations that would meet standards I'd be swayed, but as it stands the article has too many issues and too little grounding for it to be worth keeping. Occo5903 (talk) 22:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Looking into the previous AfD, as well as the largest contribution here, it seems like this is possibly a real entity. However, this does not seem to pass WP:N, since there are barely any 3rd party sources referring to this artist. In addition, his website (Wayback link) seems to refer to "Antonio De Vity" as a *studio* name, which is supported in the plain text, as the "born Umberto Marone" statement. ChunyangD (talk) 22:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A rather odd situation in which there seems to be quite a lot of citogenesis involved, to the extent that I'm not sure to what extent this is a real person or not. If this person -- again, if he existed -- were notable, I'd expect it wouldn't be such a struggle to figure this out. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 23:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Cited sources are garbage. The Victoria Gallery & Museum has one of his works, but that only proves that he existed, not that anything written here in this article is true. Perhaps it is only a studio name as ChunyangD suggests. Gamaliel (talk) 01:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I tried to find any sort of new information about this guy and couldn't come up with anything. I did find a signature/antique authentication website that talks authoritatively about what a "real" DeVity is + some insights into his alleged life. Though again no actual sources on anything... GreyKerbey (talk) 02:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Is there maybe an article that talks to this flavor of fraud or misinformation to which a listing to this name could/should be added? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete- Could not find anything in google books, newspapers, scholar and news. No third party seems to have reported on him, not even niche art websites. So he may have been a painter but not notable. Only auction houses are interested in that guy. Changeworld1984 (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Searched for him in 'The Wikipedia Library', found nothing. Changeworld1984 (talk) 14:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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