The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. Cbrown1023 talk 00:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Andreas Teuber (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Previously speedied for copyvio (see above, was done today), but resuscitated in a different form that is no longer copyvio. However, notability is still questionable. Dennisthe2 18:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC) NOMINATION WITHDRAWN, see the commentary below. Didn't realize the motive. =^^=;; --Dennisthe2 18:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AFD IS STILL ACTIVE - nomination cannot be withdrawn after delete votes have been cast. If you think that I am wrong about this, then I nominate the article pro forma myself. - Richard Cavell 00:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the nomination can be withdrawn, it's just that the AFD cannot be speedily closed. -- Black Falcon 03:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete/Speedy Delete this article looks like a no-brainer for deletion. Don't think it passess WP:Bio in any shape or form. HagenUK 21:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I would have thought that it would be recognized immediately that a Member of the IAS and an associate professor at Brandeis. Obviously publications and so on can be listed properly, as well as info about his earlier career which I think is N by itself, though it isn't as easy for me to judge; but there is at least one newspaper article on his work there. Speedy for copyvio was justified, speedy for N would not be, as it should have been clear others might have thought him N even from the stub. I'll rewrite the article, as I seem to be frequently doing. I wish these faculty guys & their friends were less lazy about it. DGG 23:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, remember, just being a member of a group and a prof at a university does not automagically give notability. It's like being a member of MENSA and an employee at Google - it's cool, but not a qualifier. --Dennisthe2 18:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it depends on the group. IAS is a very limited circle indeed. And a major development or research position in Google is notable, and we have a number of articles on such people. It depends on the position. (just for the record) :)DGG 21:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep The speedy was because the professor simply reprinted his faculty biography page, and there was a questionable claim of copyvio. I created a stub because the speedy delete created a red-link. Put a notability tag on it, and give the article some time. I don't understand the notion that a Wikipedia article has to be perfect within 48 hours of creation. -- TedFrank 23:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this has me convinced to withdraw my nomination. NOMINATION WITHDRAWN, somebody close this? --Dennisthe2 18:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...withdrawn withdrawal. --Dennisthe2 21:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as non-notable academic. Does not meet WP:PROF. Also, you can't withdraw a nomination when there are already advocates to delete. --Mus Musculus 03:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Clarification - I speedy deleted the first article that was written under this name because the text of the article was originally published under a copyright message on a University's website. It was also written by the subject of the article. A new article now exists on the same topic, written by a different author. The present problem for this AfD, on the new article, is notability under WP:BIO. If the nominator' attempt to withdraw is valid, then I nominate this new article myself pro forma in order to allow the AfD to run its course on notability concerns. I reserve my judgment on it. - Richard Cavell 00:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. The 4 references provided establish notability in the technical sense and his being a fellow at IAS establishes notability in the more general sense. In response to Mus Musculus, a member of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University is not a run-of-the-mill, generic, no-different-from-my-neighbour's-husband's-uncle, "non-notable academic". -- Black Falcon 03:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.