The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 08:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alphabetical list of notable science fiction films

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Violates WP:NOR. Article states the "criteria used for this list are, in order of importance: box office, awards, reference on other "best-of" lists, widely acknowledged influence", etc. That's "in order of importance" according to the opinion User:Avt tor, the creator and only contributor to this list. Avt tor has compiled it based on his own mysterious formula, while referring to such "reliable" sources as IMDb users' ratings.

WP:NOR states that unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material... (including) interpretations, definitions, and arguments published by Wikipedia must already have been published by a reliable publication.

Also, a pointless duplication of a topic fairly well covered in List of notable science fiction films. Saikokira 00:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because the list criteria are arbitrary and a better list exists. YechielMan 00:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A better list exists so this one should be deleted. — Pious7_Talk ^Contribs 00:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The chrnonological list is too large, cluttered to the point of not being very readable, includes a lot of not-very-noteworthy films. It's not a substitute for this list. Avt tor 20:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not only does a similar page exist, but for an alphabetical list, you're better served with a category. Also, you're better served without the POV/OR. Award winning films, yes. "Notable" ones, no. Grutness...wha? 01:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; notability in this case is arbitrary. --Mhking 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not to mention List of science fiction films, which contains 1953's "Cat- Women of the Moon". Wikipedia has covered the field pretty well. Noroton 02:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC) (corrected that title Noroton 02:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)}[reply]
Delete POV, original research, and fan taste. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information--PrestonH^{(Sandbox) • (Sign Here!)} 02:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There's that "notable" POV qualfier again. In fact List of notable science fiction films should be renamed. Anyway, the article under discussion here duplicates this information, so it can go. 23skidoo 03:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NPOV WP:ATT /Blaxthos 06:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete as per comments above, and all my previous comments on AfDs of this type. These lists are inherently OR and subjective. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 09:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This should be, and most likely already is, a category. -- saberwyn 11:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Having a category is not necessarily a substitute for a list (the latter can have redlinks for expansion and can have references or provide some color, like year of release or receipts in the case of films). Carlossuarez46 19:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - If this or similar contextual or "expansion" data was present, I would be more inclined to support the article in some way. It isn't, and unless someone with an interest in maintaining the article comes along and adds such data, I don't see how this list is superior to a category. -- saberwyn 20:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete notability and inclusion is subjective. Carlossuarez46 19:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is no use for an article like this. Acalamari 20:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Criteria are specified in the article. This article is a necessary introduction to the subject of science fiction on films. There is a category, which is unqualified, therefore much too large to be useful as an introduction. This article is an essential component of the article on science fiction, separated only to keep the parent article shorter. An article of this kind is needed. If someone has suggestions for more authoritative criteria, those can be discussed. There's no POV, OR, or "taste" here. This isn't a subjective list, just a compilation of cited research. Avt tor 20:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.