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The result was Delete. Krimpet (talk) 00:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Allison Ferns (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

I don't think Allison's sufficiently notable - she's a minor presenter on a minor radio station. In fact, her presenting role is usually to fill in for absent colleagues. (Hope that doesn't sound cruel, because I quite like her!) A bit iffy 05:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have a heart, Iffy. She won't be minor for long. And she does feature quite a lot on the Tommy Boyd shrine website, so she's not obscure. Surely that's the springboard for a larger article? --Fred FuManchu 07:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete - Yes she's a BBC DJ so possibly just squeezes her (admittedly delectable and lovely) self through WP:N by the width of a hair, but when all's said and done she's one of those people who only turns up once a week or so to cover when Neil Pringle or Tommy Boyd calls in sick, and is probably best known for (allegedly) turning up drunk to work. With the utmost reverence to Tommy Boyd, he's not exactly Chris Tarrant (or even Timmy Mallett). If it is deleted, delete without prejudice, as there's a reasonable chance she'll rise at some point (personally, I think she's far more entertaining than Tommy, but that's neither here nor there) - iridescenti (talk to me!) 18:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There - is that not reason enough? Go on, let's give the gal a chance! I would have thought not being Chris Tarrant or Timmy Mallet was a credential! --Fred FuManchu 19:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We are talking about the man who replaced Janet Ellis and Timmy Mallett here - to have been second choice behind those two takes some doing — iridescenti (talk to me!) 19:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom as failing WP:BIO. "She won't be minor for long" is an argument extensively used in AfDs for 15-year-old garage band drummers and freshman video auteurs, and the answer they get is not one whit less pertinent here: if she does get famous, then people can write an article about her. What elements of WP:BIO does anyone claim she meets? She's not now notable, and doesn't merit an article until she is.  Ravenswing  19:55, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Nobody except the creator's saying to keep her - all I'm saying is leave space to recreate if she does make it, since in the BBC structure people generally rise quite fast — iridescenti (talk to me!) 20:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For someone whose notability is in dispute, Allison Ferns is certainly garnering much debate here. My comment about 'minor' was tongue in cheek. I do not believe she is minor.

My argument for her notability is that her name is widely known to the people who listen to BBC Southern Counties radio - Let's not forget that doesn't just include the Southern counties area of England, her work is accessible world wide as the station is broadcast online. But if this article is to be deleted, I hope it will not be due to bias from those who have nominated it to be so. Vast swathes of her professional history is available to hear at the shrine website. As a final mention, she is also very popular - 3 out of the 4 wikipedians taking part here have stated that they are fans. That sounds like a majority to me.--Fred FuManchu 22:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iridescenti - Not sure what the Janet Ellis mention signifies (Hope you're not confusing Magpie with Blue Peter) and I also believe you are confusing me with the creator of the article. Unfortunately not, I am merely a fan.Fred FuManchu 22:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I am. Hang my head in shame — iridescenti (talk to me!) 20:11, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - there are hundreds of local radio DJs and even TV presenters across the country without an entry because they are simply not notable enough.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vozhd (talk • contribs).— Vozhd (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
weak delete The notability question was answered. Her name is well known by the listeners who follow the BBC station (That's BBC - the world's largest broadcasting corporation, anyone?) Let's all sleep on it for a while and re-think about whether articles should be deleted just because they can.Olaf Legend 17:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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