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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 15:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Akiva Megrelashvili

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Player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE having never played in a fully-professional league/competition Hubschrauber729 (talk) 04:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:ATHLETE:
- - Competitors who have competed in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis.
  - Competitors who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports. FlyingToaster 06:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Giant Snowman 11:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Giant Snowman 13:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, played at the highest level of a semi-professional sport. Juzhong (talk) 14:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No actually keep because he has actually played in a fully professional league/competition. see Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. I knew those prod tags were bullshit. Juzhong (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Although the article says he plays for Kiryat Shmona, that club's article doesn't list him in the current squad. Is there any English source that confirms he has actually played top-level football? I can't find anything other than endless Wiki-mirrors so don't feel able to support at the moment -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK good point, he's not on this list either [1]. Sources don't have to be in English, perhaps a Hebrew speaker can find something. Juzhong (talk) 15:32, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I wasn't suggesting that sources had to be English, merely stating that, as I can't read Hebrew, I feel unable to !vote as I can't confirm whether or not he has ever actually played top-level football..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. —Juzhong (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Comment. Plays for Ironi Kiryat Shmona, which plays in Ligat Ha'al, a fully professional league. -- Nudve (talk) 15:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As per my comments above, is there a reliable source that confirms this.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added one. Not sure how reliable. -- Nudve (talk) 16:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I've searched, and it seems he currently plays for Hapoel Ra'anana [2], which plays in Liga Leumit, having been transferred from Kiryat Shmona. So it's possible that he never played in Ligat Haal. Liga Leumit may not be fully professinoal. I have evidence that he played in the Israeli Cup for Kiryat Shmona[3], if that helps "his case". -- Nudve (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming the source genuinely says what Nudve states it says, then ~~Keep~~ - an English player who'd played for a Premier League cup in an FA Cup match would be deemed notable, so I see no reason why the same should not apply in other countries...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find any evidence that he has played for Kiryat Shmona in the last two seasons (i.e. the ones during which they played in a fully professional league), and therefore there is nothing to suggest that he meets WP:ATHLETE. His cup match was in 2004, which is when the club were not in the top division. пﮟოьεԻ 57 16:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case I change my !vote to delete -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:53, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE. --Angelo (talk) 15:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Alexf^(talk) 12:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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