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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 19:29, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
2022 Deliatyn attack
[edit]- 2022 Deliatyn attack (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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This is a minor incident that fails WP:GNG/WP:NOTNEWS/WP:NEVENT. The first use of hypersonic Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is, well, the first use of military equipment - it should be mentioned (and is) in Kinzhal's "Operational history" section, and it can also be mentioned in Deliatyn (and it is). No need for a separate article. Apparently, nobody died, and Ukraine claims the Russian high-tech missile wrecked a... chicken coop. This is not encyclopedic content, it has no enduring coverage or significance. Some content here could be merged (probably to Deliatyn). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The article is eligible for a speedy deletion as G5, as it was written by a blocked sock (and the master was blocked primarily for writing substandard articles).--Ymblanter (talk) 16:18, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- No it isn't, the relevant clause of G5 is "that have no substantial edits by others." There have been many good-faith edits to the article in the intervening time. Had you tagged this for G5 when the banned user was the only editor, you'd be correct. As it stands, this has had too many hands in it to be eligible for G5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayron32 (talk • contribs)
- I only see there some wikignoming, no substantial edits. But I do not have a strong opinion on deletion, sock also sometimes write useful articles.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Sources in the article seem to indicate the attack itself (rather than just the missle) passes WP:GNG. No prejudice to also mentioning it in other relevant articles per WP:BTW. --Jayron32 16:24, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- delete We have a tendency towards blow-by-blow/article-by-article coverage of a conflict, but when it comes down to it all the sources are from a short period, and even at the time it doesn't appear to have had much of an impact. The "we had to call it something" suggests that neither a merge nor a redirect is called for. We didn't need separate articles for the first attacks of the V-1 or V-2, and they were actually consequential. Mangoe (talk) 02:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete already covered in adequate detail on Kh-47M2 Kinzhal. We don't have a page for every first operational use of a weapon. Mztourist (talk) 03:03, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: I struggle to see how the sources provided are anything other than WP:ROUTINE war coverage. Include whatever little bits in the appropriate articles (Deliatyn, the missile article, etc.), and then delete. Curbon7 (talk) 12:35, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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