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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:58, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1916 PGA Tour

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Per discussion on WP:GOLF, I am nominating 1916 PGA Tour for deletion and the following related pages:

Specifically, we found the source, Kronish Sports, to be of questionable value. In addition, these pages imply that there was a coherent PGA Tour at the time. It looks like the tour did retroactively determine that certain early 20th century victories counted as "official wins." But these pages go much further, implying that the "events" overall were PGA Tour-level and that there was a discrete, organized schedule. There is no evidence for that. So it looks like these pages fail WP: OR.

It would be nice if other members responded, in particular User:Ben76266. He created these pages but, in discussion on WP:GOLF, it appears that even he advocates for their deletion. In addition, I would appreciate it if other members who contributed on the talk page respond like Nigej, pʰeːnuːmuː, and wjemather. Any other members are free to respond too.

Thanks, Oogglywoogly (talk) 21:53, 24 March 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly[reply]

I agree these pages should be deleted for the reasons stated above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Ben76266 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you User:Ben76266 for your response.

Oogglywoogly (talk) 04:07, 25 March 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly[reply]

*Note: AFD was malformed. Fixed and listed correctly now (I hope). _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:11, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Golf-related deletion discussions. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:39, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. Fails WP:V and WP:OR. The principal source for the circuit is clearly a WP:SPS, author unknown, so does not meet the requirements for being a WP:RS. Reliable sources for these "seasons" do not exist because a formally organised tournament circuit, later known as the PGA Tour, didn't really start until the 1930s. Additionally, the PGA of America and PGA Tour have revised what counts/counted as an official tournament victory on many occasions (sometimes solely based on who won); these articles just reflect what that happened to be at some point in time. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:52, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I created the proposal and wrote the introduction. But I would like to vote here to make it totally clear that I want all these pages to be deleted. Obvious WP:OR. Oogglywoogly (talk) 02:46, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly[reply]
Delete all per WP:OR and WP:RS. Oogglywoogly, your nomination itself counts as a deletion call and no one can vote twice – I've changed the above to a comment. Don't worry, you'll get used to it. Good nomination. No Great Shaker (talk) 11:29, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Sorry about that No Great Shaker. I didn't mean to disrespect any rules. I will heed your advice and make sure not to do it again. Thanks, Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly (talk) 04:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Oogglywoogly[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.