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As of today, since January 1st ArtifexMayhem has made 122 edits to articles [1] and 97 edits to article talk pages. [2] Of his article edits, 76 (62%) were to articles related to human race and ethnicity and 46 (38%) were not. Of his talk page edits, 72 (74%) were on the topic of human race and ethnicity and 24 (26%) were not.
I'm going to analyse ArtifexMayhem's editing on the six race and ethnicity related articles he has edited most, excluding articles about race and intelligence.
Overall breakdown:
59 total content edits
25 edits (42%) marked as reverts
23 edits (39%) not marked as reverts were blanking content
11 edits (19%) were not blanking or reverts
The 19% number overestimates how much content he has added, because that number includes edits that still effectively were reverts, and edits to paragraphs or sections that he later blanked. The pattern is the same if one includes his edits to R&I articles. For example on these two articles [33] [34] he made a combined total of 12 edits, and all 12 were marked as reverts.
Current word length: 935; diff count: 99.
this shorthand is used for diffs:
This is not limited to race-related topics.
He characterized this as "storytelling" in the ANI case referenced by Newyorkbrad:
This statement ("this is the first time anyone has objected") is false.
Schneider incident
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aside from an initial statement, Apostle12 did not take part in the DRN discussion.
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Frey incident
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There have been no significant edits to that portion of the article since, but Talk page discussion continued
At the time of writing, no further edits have been made to that section of Huey P. Newton (though see "edits since topic-ban proposal" below). |
subsequent edits
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Subsequent to the discussion of NOTFORUM and topic ban discussion, at Black Panther Party: Re: Frey
Apostle12 appears to be the original source for this wording: continuation of slow edit warring and misrepresentation of sources
This makes changes to a cited section in a manner inconsistent with the reference, and recalls the following at Huey P. Newton:
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This section is not intended to be a chronological view of this dispute in the same way the above narratives are; there are too many other editors involved to easily thread things
see also: edits since topic-ban proposal
precipitating incident at White privilege
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initial edit war is referenced in Marie Paradox's evidence section. removed for brevity.
After heated discussion at User talk pages (which Marie Paradox references below), I asked on IRC (where I was active at the time) for someone willing to look into the situation. I was having trouble figuring out what part of my approach was wrong, as I had never previously encountered this sort of behavior on WP. The Blade of the Northern Lights volunteered to look into it.
Continued insistence on mitigating language (omitted, please see ArtifexMayhem's evidence, below) By this time, several editors had left the article entirely. I acknowledge that my reverts of this material did constitute edit warring. |
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On user and article talk pages Apostle12 resorts to personal attacks and fails to assume good faith.[134][135] Others point out that this behavior violates Wikipedia policy or can get him blocked[136][137][138], and he returns to it.[139][140]
Here as in my preliminary statement I have included diffs that were made in 2012 in relation to the White privilege article and in 2007–2008 in relation to Hippie; I do this to make the case that if Apostle12 were one to learn lessons, we would have seen an end to behaviors of this sort a long time ago. According to Apostle12 I should have noted that the "rocky start" he and Viriditas got off to were followed by "mutually respectful, collaborative editing effort that greatly benefitted"[141] Hippie. If we assume Apostle12's characterization is accurate, what does this amount to? Why is it that when Apostle12 got off to a "rocky start" with other editors of White privilege he did not draw from past experiences and try to contribute to a "mutually respectful, collaborative effort"? Why have we instead had to endure personal attacks and the like?
Apostle12 also adds material that is not verifiable[142] and removes material that is verifiable[143] despite having had it explained that verifiability is part of Wikipedia's standards.[144]
On at least one occasion Apostle12 has been hostile towards[145] an editor who assumed good faith and tried to steer Apostle12 in the direction of making constructive contributions[146] after he made an edit which in my opinion requires an editor to dig pretty deep into the bag of charity before assumption of good faith is possible.[147] Also in a series of invitations[148][149][150] that seem to meet at least two of the criteria of canvassing (bias and partisanship) Apostle12 invited three editors to return White privilege; at least one had previously been banned from editing White privilege by someone outside the situation for violating WP:3RR[151], and contributions of the other two at that point had consisted of little more than drive-by criticism.
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In April, based on a review of the white privilege article and talk page histories (prompted by this exchange), I supported an ANI proposal that Apostle12 be topic-banned from the area of human race and ethnicity. Prior to this I had few, if any, edits in the specific topic area of "Race and politics" and virtually no interaction with Apostle12. I have since made a total of seven edits to White privilege (five article edits [152][153][154][155][156] and two talk page edits [157][158]).
...I assure you that any section I write will be based entirely on RS. Many of these sources, some of which already appear in the article, caution against over-reliance on the white privilege conceptual framework and point out the limitations of this framework....
— User:Apostle12 22:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Also, it may be instructive to realize that many Jim Crow laws in the American South were instituted as a kind of "affirmative action" for whites, who found it difficult to compete in the labor market with skilled slaves freed at the end of the Civil War.
— User:Apostle12 19:53, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
It should be noted that one purpose of the Jim Crow laws that took hold in the American South after the Civil War was to provide "affirmative action" for white workers who were having a difficult time competing with newly freed, and highly skilled, blacks.
— User:Apostle12 17:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Current word length: 1383 (limit: 1000); diff count: 26. Evidence is too long: please reduce your submission so it fits within limits.
Preliminary statement is here.
UseTheCommandLine has daily generated so much new material that it’s been a major task just to keep up with her assertions, many of which are faulty; drafting a comprehensive response is beyond my capability. What concerns me is that UTCL so obviously relishes contention; I lack her enthusiasm, and possess neither the time nor the inclination to respond in kind. UTCL brandishes WP policies and dispute procedures more than any editor I have ever encountered, while simultaneously being unwilling to engage in the give and take of collaborative editing.
I am not a “Rules” person. I don’t flout the rules, however if I can briefly make my point with a terse comment when I believe other editors have said something outrageous or inhibited progress, I would rather do that than resort to WP administrative procedures – even the abbreviations make me a little nauseous. I do respect those who do the essential work of keeping order at Wikipedia, and I have made it through a full seven years of editing (½ year with my original name, 6 ½ years as Apostle 12) without falling under threat of being blocked or otherwise disciplined.
So, even though I might occasionally violate the letter of some policies and guidelines, practical feedback indicates that my editing has been in keeping with Wiki spirit. My primary question for the arbitrators is: What about UseTheCommandLine? Is her brandishing of rules and procedures consistent with Wiki spirit, WP:IAR?
The problems began with the White privilege article after UTCL suggested I draft a Criticism section. UTCL honored my first attempt, however she soon joined Marie Paradox in deleting many of my edits. Frustrating – a full day wasted.
I thought it might be good to go back through Talk and contact a few inactive editors interested in creating a Criticism section. I alerted three former editors that a new Criticism section was in the works; I did not know what particular criticisms they favored, nor was I soliciting their help in an ongoing content dispute. I disclosed having contacted them on Talk.
That’s when I happened on Marie Paradox’s comment to an editor she once had a disagreement with, "But if you want to come to my personal talk page and flaunt your white people head-up-the-ass syndrome, don't think for a moment that I'm going to mince words while calling you out on it." I considered MP’s comment outrageous anti-white racism, so I called her a “jerk” (my polite way of confronting racists) and lamented her involvement in editing a race-sensitive article. She issued a partial apology, so I erased my insult. For me that was the end of it.
UTCL and MP objected that alerting the editors to the drafting of a new Criticism section violated WP:CAN; they traded off hounding me, which confirmed my impression that UTCL and MP were engaging in WP:OWN behavior. I explained that UTCL had invited me to draft a Criticism section, I thought the interested editors might resume editing to help create it, and I had been transparent about contacting them. Contrary to MP's allegation in this proceeding, none of the editors I contacted caused problems; in fact Thucydides411 resumed editing and became one of White privilege's most productive contributors. Eventually a de facto Criticism section emerged, the WP:OWN pattern was broken, and the article became more balanced as editors with different viewpoints arrived to discuss article content.
Another conflict occurred after Groupuscule submitted a full re-write of the lede, which for a time began with “White privilege (or white skin privilege) refers to advantages that white people enjoy in all societies." I admit I reacted badly to this outrageous claim.
So I do admit to sometimes violating WP:NPA and WP:AGF. Yet even when I am on the receiving end, I find occasional direct expressions of angst preferable to UTCL's covertly hostile Wikilawyering. Much easier to provide diffs for my stuff than hers, though occasionally UTCL does let her guard down, especially when she doesn’t get her way. At such times she voices her contempt for WP processes, as during her repetitive ANI submissions where she wrote “Fuck that,” when she was encouraged by another editor to engage in discussion with me, and where she promised to make a nuisance of herself through continual resubmissions, even if it led to her being banned from participation.
UTCL refers to various “incidents” (Schneider, Lumsden), and this is where her worst distortions occur. Distorting the facts seems to be a longstanding pattern; after being rejected following an ARE submission, UTCL opened a series of ANI cases against me, none of which were found meritorious. In a previous ANI case, I spent a day sorting out UTCL's distortions, however she announced she was going on an extended (perhaps it will be permanent) Wikibreak, which closed the case prematurely. Don’t have the heart to try and sort out all of the current distortions, as I'm just not willing to spend days immersed in this stuff.
Regarding WP:FORUM, following the recent ANI discussion I agreed to refrain from telling personal stories on Talk, even though I believe learning the life experiences of other editors aids understanding - it humanizes them, and it is an aspect of transparency. Some ANI participants (Dennis Brown comes to mind) felt that judicious storytelling is not such a bad thing, as long as it doesn’t become full-blown WP:SOAP. Given my previous concession, I don’t understand the emphasis on WP:FORUM in the current discussion.
There are some things I categorically deny:
-In what UTCL calls the “Schneider Incident,” she falsely claims I ignored consensus. I agreed that Director Burt Schneider’s recent death, along with the immaturity of the story, meant that the article should not discuss the Newton/Schneider affair at this particular time, and I voiced my intention to write a new section on Hollywood luminary support for Panther political activities (based on long-established sources), so that when the Schneider letters receive due consideration from Panther scholars the sourced information can be included in proper context.
-I also deny that UTCL’s allegations in what she calls the “Lumsden incident,” where she claims I intentionally misrepresented a source. I made a simple mistake, conflating Panther writings and Panther practices, which Lumsden clearly describes as undermining the central message of gender equality in Panther Womanism. This error/omission was my sole mistake in a series of extensive edits beginning here,, and it was quickly corrected. This is yet another example of UTCL going for the jugular over a minor issue that persisted for a very short time; in fact it was I who located an online source for the Lumsden article and provided UTCL with the link. UTCL understands neither give-and-take nor honor, and in my estimation her incessant rule-bound dogging is a far greater threat to WP civility than an occasional jibe that violates WP:NPA or WP:AGF.
-Re: Artifax Mayhem, I deny that ANY of his diffs ([179][180][181][182][183][184][185][186]) "can reasonably be perceived as gratuitously endorsing or promoting stereotypes," or that his sourcing examples (Steele especially) have merit.
There is a great deal more, however my time is up. I do have a couple of suggestions:
- Wikipedia needs protocols for curbing editors who repeatedly drag those they disagree with into Wiki bureaucracy. Few editors have the resources adequately to defend against such attacks, and this behavior drives away those who joyfully give of their time to make Wikipedia an excellent resource. No one wants to work with editors who yap at their heels.
-Wikipedia needs to post "Third Rail” warnings on articles that touch on race or ethnicity. Editors should be aware of the relevant arbitration case, and they need to be informed that, despite assurances to the contrary, political correctness still holds sway on Wikipedia.
This will be my last submission. I have decided to place a “Retired” notice on my user page and scramble my password, thus tendering my resignation. When WP strife exceeds real life strife by a factor of 100 to 1, and when editors like UTCL destroy all joy, it is time to walk away. In real life I have a very good time and I do not tolerate such people for even a second. I’ve edited WP for the satisfaction of improving some articles, and for fun; I no longer wish to participate.