Thanks for helping to clean up my mess. If you have any more suggestions on how best to distribute the material between the two articles, I'd love to hear them. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe... when I clicked the link in your description for your barnstar (the wikiholic test one), it turned out to be a faulty page! Click here to find out more.Zheliel 10:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Formula One, abbreviated to F1, is the highest class of open-wheeledauto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and cars must conform. The F1 world championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The most famous Grand Prix is the Monaco Grand Prix in Monte Carlo. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual Championships, one for drivers and one for constructors.
Michael Schumacher holds the record for the most Grand Prix victories, having won 91 times. Alain Prost, is second with 51 wins, and Ayrton Senna is third, with 41 wins. Michael Schumacher holds the distinction of having the longest time between his first win and his last. He won his first Grand Prix in 1992 at the Belgian Grand Prix, and his last in 2006 at the Chinese Grand Prix, a gap that spans 14 years, 1 month and 1 day. The youngest winner of a Grand Prix is Sebastian Vettel, who was 21 years, 73 days old when he won the 2008 Italian Grand Prix. Luigi Fagioli is the oldest winner of a Formula One Grand Prix; he was 53 years and 22 days old when he won the 1951 French Grand Prix.
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Please take a look at the changes to this article proposed by User:GoldDragon and respond on the article's talk page. Ed Fitzgeraldt / c 03:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I saw your comments on the Rickenbacker talk page. I have probably written more on the World War I aces than any other contributor. I thought I might share a couple of comments with you concerning the aces' credits. One is from the Rickenbacker page, further down.
Aerial combat has always--repeat always--been subject to error and exaggerated claims. No matter what rules are set, or what technological means are invented to verify aerial victory, verifying victory claims was and is an imperfect process. Fractionate the victories, use the most stringent means of verification, and cross-collate the casualty reports in the aftermath--and you are still probably wrong.
History credits Eddie Rickenbacker with 26 victories, and the count is probably wrong, along with the score of just about every other ace who ever lived. Live with it.
The other is on the Richthofen talk page, in reply to Monday morning quarterbacking and statistics mongering.
While all of the above discussion of the probability of Richthofen's victories is very interesting, all of it is so intrinsically flawed as to be meaningless.
While math theories work on carefully gathered data, the victory claims of World War I aces are anything but that. Highly stressed men, difficulties in vision, vagaries of weather and terrain all made reports of victory more of a guessing game than an accurate accumulation of fact. Some combat reports state only EA--enemy aircraft--as the target; some lack even a date; many lack a time of day. There are historians who attempt to match up reported losses with combat reports with an eye toward validating the scores of individual aces, and they always fail.
Passage of time and subsequent loss of records further erodes credibility and accuracy.
The comparison of fleeting observations in the air to sporting events witnessed by multitudes is so basically fallacious as to be laughably unbelievable. It is not even a comparison of apples and oranges; it is more like a comparison of pomegranates and bananas.
In short, if you allow "garbage in garbage out" into the mathematical realm, you can prove most anything.
You also might want to check out List of World War I fighter aces, for explanation of scoring systems and difficulties.
I may have given you more info that you even thought you needed, but I hope you will forgive me for that.
T. Mazzei (talk·contribs) The March 2009 award is presented to T. Mazzei who upgrades and creates numerous Saskatchewan articles on a regular basis. It is good to have an editor monitoring articles, and adding wikilinks where needed. A thank you is extended for your consistent efforts.
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Hamilton, the eventual Drivers' Champion, led the Championship going into the race, and started from pole position alongside Räikkönen. Second in the Drivers' Championship, Massa began from third, next to Fernando Alonso of Renault. The first three drivers retained their positions into the first corner, but Alonso was passed by Hamilton's McLaren teammate Heikki Kovalainen. However, Alonso was able to regain the place midway through the first lap. Over the course of the race, Hamilton extended a considerable lead over the two Ferraris. Massa passed Räikkönen with seven laps remaining, to improve his chances of surpassing Hamilton's points tally at the final race in Brazil.
The result extended Ferrari's lead over McLaren in the Constructors' Championship from seven to 11 points. Third-placed in the Drivers' Championship, Robert Kubica's sixth place at the Grand Prix eliminated his hopes of winning the Championship, and reduced his lead over fourth-placed Räikkönen to six points.
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Hi! I've been assessing fish articles for some time now and i've noticed the tags you've added. thanks, but there is one, small problem. i saw you put the tags for WP: archaeology when dealing with fossil fishes, i thought archaeology dealt mostly with human activities. if that's so wouldn't the banner for WP: Palaeontolgy be more applicable? thanks, Ryan shell (talk) 23:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What should I do if a User seems like he or she is just promoting a website? Not as in editing the websites wikipedia page (if it has one) but as in, well, just promoting it. Abce2 (talk) 16:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)Abce2[reply]
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Hamilton maintained his startline advantage and led until he made his first pit stop on lap 18. As other cars made their pit stops, Hamilton regained the lead on lap 22. On lap 36 Timo Glock crashed, and the race was neutralized by the deployment of the safety car. Hamilton, on a two-stop strategy, did not stop to get more fuel during this period, while all the cars around him did. Thus when he did eventually stop on lap 50, he rejoined the race in fifth. In the closing stages of the race, Hamilton overtook first his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, then Massa, and finally Piquet, to take the lead again on lap 60, which he maintained to win the race.
The victory was Hamilton's second consecutive win, having won the preceding British Grand Prix at Silverstone. The win put him ahead of his two main rivals in the Drivers' Championship, Kimi Räikkönen (who finished sixth) and Massa of Ferrari, who were on equal points with him before the race. After the race he was four points ahead of Räikkönen, and seven ahead of Massa. In the Constructors' Championship, McLaren drew closer to the two teams ahead of them, BMW Sauber and Ferrari. Ferrari still led by 15 points from McLaren, and 12 from BMW, whose drivers – Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica – finished fourth and seventh respectively.
† After the race, Trulli was originally given a 25-second penalty for passing Lewis Hamilton (4th, +2.914) under yellow flags.[1] However, due to misleading the stewards, Hamilton was disqualified and Trulli's penalty was overturned. [2]
* Timo Glock (1:26.975, 6th) and Trulli (1:27.127, 8th) were both disqualified from qualifying and sent to the back of the grid, as their Toyotas' rear wing elements were in breach of the rules.
The race was red flagged on lap 33 and the results were taken from lap 31.
* Sebastian Vettel (3rd, 1:35.518) got a 10 place grid penalty for his collision with Kubica at the previous Grand Prix. [3]
^ Rubens Barrichello (4th, 1:35.651) got a 5 place grid penalty for a gearbox change. [4]
Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to HNLMS Zeeleeuw (S803). Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. --Allen3talk 13:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man, saw your (admittedly old) query on the gnosticism page, re: the 5th horseman, name of Oblivion or Extinction.
None of the Gnostic gospels mention such a figure - it was a fact cooked up by Grant Morrison, a comics writer, for his run on the DC series Doom Patrol. The fifth horseman is mentioned by a member of the aforesaid team. Cheers Visual Error (talk) 12:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Understand DP? Well, some of it - the bit about Dada and the Fifth Horseman I got. It helped that I had (by chance) read up on a few topics that Morrison seems to find of interest. That said, I don't he's written anything to compete with his early stuff, except perhaps WE3, which was a blinder. The Filth, mind you, was like a geode caked in crap - you see the occasional sparkle through the muck, and it's pretty - but in the end no geode's valuable enough or pretty enough to get your hands covered in crap for. Visual Error (talk) 19:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Place Saskatchewan articles on your watchlist to help prevent vandalism. Peek in on the newly created high school articles periodically as well as the Saskatoon article.
Saskatoon
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Caronport, Saskatchewan
Please expand city, town, village and hamlet articles especially if you have first hand knowledge of them, which would develop facts and help in knowing where to find resources, citations and sources. For example Caronport, Saskatchewan is a recent request
May celebrations - Mother's Day
Help to celebrate May, write a biography about someone's mother to celebrate Mother's Day. Some women who are listed at Sk Requests are...MLA Anne Smart, Violet Stanger, Carol Carson, Suzanne Murray for example. Here is a conversation in regards to standardization of MLAs and MPs. Please feel free to add to this listing at requests
May 19 demarks Victoria Day, and a wonderful Saskatchewan wikipedia project would be to expand or create articles about the Monarchy in SaskatchewanLieutenant Governor of SaskatchewanMonarchy in the Canadian provinces. There are communities, schools, and landmarks which have a Royal designation which could be created or expanded. Tweedsmuir community, King George School (Moose Jaw); King George Community School (Prince Albert); King Edward School (Saskatoon) ;Queen Elizabeth School (Lloydminster); Queen Elizabeth School (Weyburn); Prince Arthur Community School (Moose Jaw); Prince Philip School (Saskatoon); Princess Alexandra School (Saskatoon); Queen Mary School (Prince Albert); Princess Margaret School (Prince Albert); Prince Charles School (Prince Albert); Connaught School Regina; Massey School, Regina; Vincent Massey Community School (Prince Albert); Vanier Collegiate Institute, Moose Jaw; Earl Grey School, Earl Grey;
Note: Some elementary schools such as Victoria School (Kamsack) ; Victoria School (Saskatoon) ; King George School (Saskatoon) now belong to their neighbourhood articles. Some elementary schools could belong to their community, town or village articles.
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The race began with Kubica in pole position alongside Massa; Lewis Hamilton, the eventual Drivers' Champion, started from third, alongside Räikkönen. Kubica was passed by Massa into the first corner, and then by Räikkönen on the third lap. The Ferraris dominated at the front of the race, leading to their one-two finish. Hamilton had a slow start after almost stalling on the grid, and dropped back to ninth. The McLaren driver ran into the back of Fernando Alonso's Renault a lap later, breaking off the McLaren's front wing and dropping Hamilton to the back of the field.
Kubica's strong finish promoted BMW Sauber to the lead in the Constructors' Championship, after BMW driver Nick Heidfeld finished fourth. Ferrari and McLaren trailed, one and two points behind, respectively. Räikkönen took the lead in the Drivers' Championship, with 19 points, three points ahead of Heidfeld and five ahead of Hamilton, Kubica and Kovalainen, with 15 races remaining in the season.
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Massa claimed pole, with teammate Räikkönen fourth, the two Ferrari cars sandwiching the McLarens of Heikki Kovalainen and Hamilton. At the first corner Räikkönen clipped Kovalainen's rear tyre and gave him a puncture. The safety car was deployed on the first lap, after a collision, but only remained out for one lap. During the course of the race, Hamilton, intending to make one more pit stop than both Ferrari drivers, was faster than Massa due to carrying a lighter fuel load and overtook him on lap 24. After Hamilton had made his third pit stop, he rejoined in second behind Massa but in front of the Championship leader, Räikkönen. Massa won the race, with Hamilton 3.779 seconds behind, and Räikkönen a further half-second behind. The two BMW Sauber cars of Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld took fourth and fifth.
In the week running up to the grand prix, the Super Aguri team had withdrawn from Formula One, due to financial problems, leaving the sport with only ten teams. Massa's victory was his third consecutive pole position and victory in Turkey, having also won the race from pole in 2006 and 2007. This was also Rubens Barrichello's 257th Grand Prix start, breaking Riccardo Patrese's previous record of 256. Due to the race result, Räikkönen's lead in the Drivers' Championship was lowered to seven points. Massa rose to second from fourth, whilst Hamilton dropped to third, both drivers tying on 28 points but separated by Massa's two wins thus far to Hamilton's one. In the Constructors' Championship, Ferrari increased their lead to 22 points ahead of BMW Sauber, with McLaren a further two points behind in third.
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Please vote on the featured article status of this article, as it was promoted to FA quite awhile ago, and FA status requirements have changed. The above list was merged into the List of universities in Canada.
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Biographies
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Amidst summer festivals, tourism and agricultural activities, the July newsletter is out amongst us. While you are out and about, take a festival photog, or photograph a visit to the park, or perhaps a flax field. Perhaps, add an article about your favourite festival or Saskatchewan tourism destination, increase what is online about our national, provincial or regional sites.
Dominion Day now known as Canada Day is celebrated July 1, 2009. Please help develop articles about our members of parliament articles, and National Historic Sites in Saskatchewan!
Museums
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Conditions were wet at the start of the race. Massa maintained his lead into the first corner, but his teammate Kimi Räikkönen was passed for second by Hamilton, who had started in third position on the grid. Hamilton suffered a punctured tyre on lap six, forcing him to make a pit stop from which he re-entered the race in fifth place. As the track dried and his rivals made their own pit stops Hamilton became the race leader, a position he held until the end of the race. Kubica's strategy allowed him to pass Massa during their second pit stops, after the latter's Ferrari was forced to change from wet to dry tyres. Räikkönen dropped back from fifth position to ninth after colliding with Adrian Sutil's Force India late in the race. Sutil had started from 18th on the grid and was in fourth position before the incident, which allowed Red Bull driver Mark Webber to finish fourth, ahead of Toro Rosso driver Sebastian Vettel in fifth.
The race was Hamilton's second win of the season, his first in Monaco, and the result meant that he led the Drivers' Championship, seven points ahead of Räikkönen and eight ahead of Massa. Ferrari maintained their lead in the Constructors' Championship, 16 points ahead of McLaren and 17 ahead of BMW Sauber, with 12 races of the season remaining.
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Can you reconsider the encyclopedic value of this edit please? Thanks, --76.117.164.50 (talk) 21:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it's a cultural thing. It's customary for Americans to treat placenames worldwide as though they were American placenames (Akron, Ohio; while Paris, France is a redirect). It looks kind of funny on an article about a European subject. Realistically Berlin is not ambiguous, which is why we have a different naming convention for European cities. I'll take it to article talk if necessary. --76.117.164.50 (talk) 22:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Räikkönen and Massa both made a clean start. Renault's Fernando Alonso, who started third, was overtaken by Trulli and BMW Sauber driver Robert Kubica. The front three of Räikkönen, Massa and Trulli maintained their positions through the first round of pit stops. On lap 30, Räikkönen led Massa by six and a half seconds, and Trulli by 30 seconds. Just before half distance, Räikkönen's right exhaust pipe broke, which caused the engine to lose power. Massa, in second place, began lapping quicker than Räikkönen, and he caught and passed him on lap 39. Massa maintained his lead through the second round of pit stops, and won the race; Räikkönen finished almost 18 seconds behind. Trulli fended off McLaren's Heikki Kovalainen, who challenged him in the latter stages, to take third.
Massa's win promoted him into the lead of the Drivers' Championship for the first time in his career, overtaking Kubica. Kubica was second, two points behind Massa, while Räikkönen was third. In the Constructors' Championship, Ferrari increased their lead to 17 points ahead of BMW Sauber, McLaren a further 16 points behind in third.
Despite qualifying tenth, Massa missed the race due to suffering an accident in the second part of qualifying. He suffered a cut on his forehead, a bone damage of his skull and a brain concussion. [11]
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You've recreated the part of a sentence I removed regarding Pearl Harbor in the Pacific War article. You asked what part of "blunder" is unclear... well, the answer to that is all of it. Nowhere does it clarify why the Axis' actions were a blunder. In fact, the sentence links to the article on Grand strategy where it classifies those actions as "sensible" and a "classic example" of such strategic thinking.
If there was an additional sentence or reference that clarified why such actions are seen as a "blunder" then it definitely should be kept, but as it is it's slightly contradictory and unqualified. I'm going to remove it again, but should you disagree with my reasoning above, then it's probably a good idea to take this to the article talkpage before restoring.
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The Brabham BT46 was a Formula Oneracing car, designed by Gordon Murray for the Brabham team, owned by Bernie Ecclestone, for the 1978 Formula One season. The car featured several radical design elements, the most obvious of which was the use of flat panel heat exchangers on the bodywork of the car to replace conventional water and oil radiators. The concept did not work in practice and was removed before the car’s race debut, never to be seen again. The cars, powered by a flat-12Alfa Romeo engine, raced competitively with modified nose-mounted radiators for most of the year, driven by Niki Lauda and John Watson, winning one race in this form and scoring sufficient points for the team to finish third in the constructors championship.
The "B" variant of the car, also known as the "fan car", was introduced at the 1978 Swedish Grand Prix as a counter to the dominant ground effect Lotus 79. The BT46B generated an immense level of downforce by means of a fan, claimed to be for increased cooling, but which also extracted air from beneath the car. The car only raced once in this configuration in the Formula One World Championship—when Niki Lauda won the 1978 Swedish Grand Prix at Anderstorp. The car was withdrawn before it could race again and the concept was declared illegal by the FIA. The BT46B therefore preserves a 100% winning record.
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In ref to your note; seems good to me. My main view was that it's quite an interesting strategic viewpoint, so surely there must be decent sources out there... somewhere. So far I've found some interesting stuff from here (albeit not terrifically sourced itself), but I'll let you know how I get on once I've found time to trawl through t'internet. Cheers, onebravemonkey 11:13, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Please use the talk page to explain your reverts. From what I can see, you're trashing a large number of edits I did which corrected false information and added a reliable source that was missing. And your motive is some minor geographical nit? If you have a guideline or policy that should be followed here, please point it out. And don't undo the entire edit because of something this minor.--Dbratland (talk) 20:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When you tagged the Bandini articles, what did you mean about improving the English?Relevantsus (talk) 13:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Trans-atlantic Zeppelin or airship flights prior to May, 1927[edit]
The only trans-atlantic airship flights between North America and Europe prior to Lindbergh's May, 1927, first ever non-stop flight from New York to Paris were a round trip between the UK and Mineola, NY, by the British airship R-34 in 1919, and the delivery flight of the Zeppelin-built US Navy airship USS Los Angeles (ZR-3, ex-LZ-126) from Friedrichshafen to Lakehurst in 1924. No airship, however, ever made a flight between New York and Paris either before or after the Spirit of St. Louis therefore making Lindbergh's solo flight the first ever non-stop flight over that route made either solo or otherwise. Centpacrr (talk) 09:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Orteig Prize for which Lindbergh and the other aviators (none of which others made "solo" attempts) were competing for was for making the first "non-stop flight between New York and Paris" in either direction, a distance of roughly 3,600 statute miles. Alcock and Whitten-Brown's non-stop trans-atlantic flight in 1919 was made between St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Clifden, Ireland, which, at roughly 2,000 miles, was 1,600 miles shorter than (and thus not remotely comparable to) the distance Lindbergh's non-stop flight between New York and Paris covered. The fact that he also happened to accomplish it "solo" was not, however, a required element of setting the "record" of doing so first, nor would any competitor have had to do so to make a successful claim for setting that record and thus winning the prize. Centpacrr (talk) 16:53, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The race was dominated, however, by the fight between championship protagonists Michael Schumacher (Benetton) and Damon Hill (Williams). Hill, who started from pole position, retained his lead during the opening stages of the race whilst Schumacher, who started alongside him on the grid, fell behind Alesi in the run to the first corner. Despite being held up behind the slower Ferrari until it pitted, Schumacher used a more favourable one-stop strategy to move ahead of Hill, who made two pit stops for fuel and tyres, on lap 41. Four laps later, Hill attempted to pass Schumacher, but the two collided and were forced to retire from the race. This promoted the battling Herbert and Coulthard into the fight for the lead. Coulthard passed Herbert, but dropped back to third after incurring a stop-go penalty for speeding in the pit lane.
* Barrichello had originally qualified fifth, but received a 5-place grid penalty for a gearbox change between FP3 and qualifying. He moved back up to ninth, after Heidfeld's penalty. [12]
Nick Heidfeld originally qualified eighth (1:49.307), but was sent to the back of the grid, for his car being underweight after qualifying. His team also changed the gearbox and engine. [13]
‡ Nakajima set his time during the second part of qualifying, as he failed to make the top ten.
* Sutil and Barrichello received five-place grid penalties for speeding in a neutralised yellow flag zone, following an incident involving Sébastien Buemi in the second part of qualifying. [14]
Jenson Button (7th, 1:32.962) and Fernando Alonso (12th, 1:31.638) also received a five-place grid penalty for the same offence.
Buemi (10th, no time) himself received a five-place penalty for driving his damaged Toro Rosso back to the pits, and impeding other cars.
Heikki Kovalainen (9th, no time) received a five-place grid penalty for changing his gearbox after a crash during Q3.
† All times were recorded in the second part of qualifying, as they did not make the top ten originally.
Just an FYI, the reason all of the ships had "USS" in front is (likely) because whoever added all of the ships did it with the pipe trick, which only removes the disambiguation (the part within the parentheses). It's a hassle to type out all of the ship names twice (before and after the pipe) just to eliminate the "USS"; I wouldn't have done it either. You really went ballistic (re:the edit summary), so I thought I'd defend whichever editor was responsible for raising your ire. Horologium(talk) 00:40, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Thompson submachine gun. Your edits constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. TREKphiler hit me ♠ 23:42, 22 October 2009 (UTC)"
That was done from my computer, and it was done by my 10-year-old son, who discovered that "anyone can edit wikipedia, Dad". He noted that people could mess with pages and I told him yes, they could, but people monitor those pages and will revert vandalism. Apparently he decided to test that. My apologies. He will be sternly dealt with when he wakes up tomorrow.
Could you please revisit the Weapon Alpha article you created back in 2007. Theseedits (the latter from last April) seem to have considerably changed the meaning of the last sentence, and I don't have access to the reference to sort it out. (I considered simply reverting to the original wording, but I must admit that I found it a bit confusing as well.) -- ToET 02:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Why is the third US team worthy of a footnote when the first Indian and Malaysian teams are not? -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 18:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think it is right to edit your talk page in such a way to wipe discussions. If you dislike that the comments are not properly cited what you are suppost to do is ask for references.
As far as it breaking the narative, this claim I dispute. Those guys were on a suicide mission and they knew it.
The coordination they were given were nonexistent. They had no fighter escort and not enough fuel to make it back to the Hornet. Yet they pressed their attack. All of the Devastators were shot down. Only one man, Ensign George Gay, survived.
Trekphiler, please: why do you change the content of a CITATION ? Doyou know the differencebetween a CITATION and PLAIN TEXT ? Would you change anything in a citation from the bible or from the Magna Charta or from the American Constitution, only because its not according with nowadays Wiki standards ? Why do you delete texts in other peoples Wiki-conform articles, and without asking ? What is the value writing 1 January as "1 January", when it was written "1st January" in the ORIGINAL text ? Someone new to wiki (me I am a M.A. in history, working with my clear name here) gets annouyed very easily by this. For scientists a citation is HOLY - you can answer to it, you can add another view etc, whatever you want, but you have not to MANIPULATE it. If this continues, I will retire all my 100 submarine articles written in the last 4 weeks (and I could write another 250, if one would let me work quietly . I cannot see the value of your actions for SM U-44 or SM U-77 or SM U-108 for the end-users. Maybe its only to augments your scores ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AchimKoerver (talk • contribs) 16:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I believe what Achim is here calling a "citation" actually means a "quotation". I think there is a way for you two to work together, I just have to finish running through Achim's contributions so I can get up-to-steam on the complete nature of the conflict here. Thanks for archiving your page by the way. Works much better.Wjhonson (talk) 00:11, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone through about half of his contribs. Here is what I think so far. When he states that he is "reverting to original text" I believe what he means, is that he misquoted the underlying document originally and is now trying to fix it by quoting it exactly. If we want exact quotes, then I agree with him, that those should not be changed, however if we want to paraphrase the document, than I agree with you that we can use a smoother presentation. I'm wondering if his full quotations would not live better on our sister project WikiSource and then could be cited to the articles here? Just a thought as a possible way forward for you two to work together. I'll cc him this thought as well, he may be unaware of WikiSource.Wjhonson (talk) 00:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
He has now modified the presentation method on SM U-92 as an example, showing the actual page images, and then the transcription, to make it clear that what follows is a verbatim transcription of the image, so anyone can verify that for themselves. Looks like a possible way forward. Then any other comment can go into a new section citing sources which discuss these documents or other related documents from a secondary source perspective. What do you think?Wjhonson (talk) 06:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the reason for putting up the image is "See I'm right". I think, that he is putting up the image, so that others can check that his transcription is accurate, that's all.Wjhonson (talk) 08:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well look at this one I just mocked up here. It allows Achim to have the verbatim exact transcription, and you to have to flowing prose version as well. The entire transcription could I suppose be put into a footnote, but that would be a very large footnote. I suppose typically things like this are put in appendixes, but I've never seen that used here.Wjhonson (talk) 09:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Trekphiler look at what Achim did here SM U-51. It's beautiful. I would not object to all of them being done in this way. Looks better than my stodgy table.Wjhonson (talk) 18:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please have a look at SM U-14 now, also [[SM U-18)) and SM U-22.
Please dont fell sorry about the reset:
me I said originally "abcd".
Then you said "ab_d".--Hans Joachim Koerver 23:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Then I went to "ab__".
So, we are on the new design now, entries get standardizd for the community, no style mix.
And a future basis for co-contributors.
I am not good in jokes; but one I remember:
"Life is nothing. So if you loose nothing, what have you lost at the end ? :-)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by AchimKoerver (talk • contribs) 23:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]