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Aha, you actually meant "art". My apologies. Go ahead, man, you certainly seem to know about it (I don't). Just a brief note: You might consider starting to contribute to Aviation in World War I (creating a new section). That page (as it seems to me) would certainly gain from more contributions in general. If you continue there, instead of making a new article, the chances that people help out/contribute is bigger. Place a note on its talk page too. Then, maybe later, when there is an abundance of info, a new subarticle can be created. I generally think that a longer article (up to a certain point) are better than many small ones. But, then again, I am a mergist. Just some thoughts, though. Good luck! My regards, Dennis Nilsson. Dna-Dennis talk - contribs 19:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
On the WWI talk page (section "Coverage") you said "I see no mention of the crucial influence of the U-boat campaign & how near it brought Britain to defeat. Nor do I see (as usual) any mention of the Japanese contributions to convoy escort in the Med. Nor any reference to commerce raiding, which was also important to RN defense of trade."
You might want to contribute to the sub-page Naval warfare of World War I. It is far from extensive, and could be lacking in these respects.
PS. Just a hint: If you plan on continually contributing to wikipedia, you might consider placing just a little text on your userpage. This would make your name in talk pages turn from "red" to "blue", which by others probably would be considered more suitable (currently, if people want to contact you, they are immediately transferred to the creation/editing of your userpage). If you want ideas or help, I will gladly help out. Just give me a message on my talk page. My regards, Dennis Nilsson. Dna-Dennis talk - contribs 13:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I have created a shell for your userpage. Some brief notes:
Well, I think that's all. I hope it has been useful. Don't be afraid reading wikipedia help pages - they are well-written and not exhausting.
My regards, Dennis Nilsson. Dna-Dennis talk - contribs 18:20, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for not responding earlier, I was having a "weekend away". The flag I was using was initially the larger image that appears on the UK articles in Wikipe4dia, until someone advised I used this current one because it takes up less space. I cannot advise where to find a maple leaf equivalent.
Also I see someone else has posted the link for babel above. -- Francs2000 22:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
If anybody's watching {I'm getting paranoid... ;)}, I've done a Howell torpedo page that could use some help. I've proposed a nose art page. I'm also in the middle of an edit of the flying aces WW2 list (which is way bigger than I expected...) I've seen an article online of the US aces, but my copy doesn't have the original source attached anymore (somehow...). If anybody's seen it (also ref on flying aces talk page), do include it. Trekphiler 15:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Half the articles cite 17 victories, the other half 3. I don't know which is correct. Yamschikova is not well known for her WW2 activities (which to me suggests that 3 is the correct number of victories... it's not likely that the highest-scoring ace would be so low-profile). She is more famous for her post-war career as a test-pilot and the first woman in the world to fly jets.
Two articles (in Russian):
HTH. - Emt147 Burninate! 21:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
According to George Barris's own website, Barris only made the convertible version of KITT. Michael Scheffe designed and built the original KITT (which Universal made a few of them) and one was redressed for KARR. This was already mentioned on KITT's page in the Trivia section BTW. Cyberia23 22:41, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
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Daimler's first true car had its chassis supplied by Christian Schmidt of Neckarsulm Radwerke. Trekphiler 15:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Thats interesting, more from internet:
So... are you meaning the first motorcycle (1885) or the modified stagecoach (1886) ???--Zzzzzzus 12:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)zzzzzzus This Schmidt is from AUDI isnt he?--Zzzzzzus 13:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC)zzzzzzus
Maybe you should rename it to List of military figures by nickname to identify its true contents. --ArmadilloFromHell 06:11, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the input - somehow I've missed that particular Dupuy book. I'll have to look out for it!:Just noticed I've got it on the shelf! :-p EyeSerene 12:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again EyeSerene 12:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC) Military Simulations
Cheers for the continued interest - progress is slow at the moment (busy period at work!). I've added a diagram (& amended the text a bit) that should make my case for including exercises as a form of simulation clearer (I hope!). I'm fairly happy with the first 3 sections, but the 'Simulation & reality' is not really working hence my trying to divide it up a bit (it was turning into a list of criticisms). It's still not great though (not counting continuity/citation errors that have crept in by rearranging paragraphs).
Maybe it would be a good idea to hive off some of the material into a 'Training' article - what I'm trying to avoid though is (a) taking too much out so the article becomes too abstract, and (b) making it too long. It has already grown past what I thought it would when I started it (but it's my first, so I guess that's a lesson learned!)
Re more examples: any ideas? I've found it hard to find examples that are non-US/NATO/cold war as so much is either still classified or limited to academic papers. I know the Russians, Germans & others use modelling extensively but unfortunately I'm no linguist ;-) EyeSerene 18:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Addendum: the 'drills were bloodless battles; battles were bloody drills' quote is normally accredited to Josephus (& sometimes Patton, though he just pinched it!) EyeSerene 19:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
A bit hectic at work at the mo, so I've not revisited the article for a while! Thanks again for the input - it all helps. I studied modelling and simulation as part of my degree at a military university... but unfortunately nearly 20 years ago so much of what I know is a bit dated! It also doesn't help that so much of the published stuff was written during the cold war for what I suppose are fairly obvious reasons. I'd have to agree though that Dupuy is a very important source, although I don't think everyone would: he's upset a few establishment figures in his time. I'll make the time to have a final stab at getting the article into a reasonably finished condition and then post it up - out of my hands then ;-) EyeSerene 14:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Trekphiler,
Thanks for your encouragement and info. I've put in a request for Milner's book at our local library. It must be a fairly recent publication as I've not seen it with his other books at my branch. I requested a peer review and Kirill has responded with a helpful critique. He has asked for more inline footnotes, but as I explained to him, in many cases, paragraphs that do not have specific citations were paraphrased from several sources writing on the same subject, while those with citations were single source rewrites. As it's presented now the page has 5400 words and 22 footnotes. Have you any thoughts on this? Thanks. Alberg22 14:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey. Thanks for changing the characteristics in the U-1A article. I will go through some of my U-boat books and see if I can find any info on the boat's max depth. The number currently in the article is from the website uboat.net. -- Underneath-it-All 01:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. You're technically correct that Brescia is the second exception to Monza's hosting the Italian GP. I wonder if we've got the wording wrong in the article around that piece, though. The article is on Formula One, and of course F1 wasn't devised until 1946, so Brescia can't be an exception in the sense of this article. Any thoughts on how we should re-word? 4u1e 14:31, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I can't guess how this sentence is supposed to go:
I'm sure there should be extra letters in "ut", but I don't know which ones. Your edits look good otherwise. It never hurts to cite your sources. -Will Beback 09:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I suspect we are seeing a clash of meanings here. In crypto, break has several meanings, all related to varous grades of breaking into confidentiality of messages. It has a very much more constricted meaning in popular usage re crypto. The popular mind seems to have an image of a piece of glass (darkly perhaps), which resists entirely until it shatters, theruupon it doesn't resist at all. Bad mental image.
In fact, with such systems as JN-25, it was necessary to perform a two-part dance in the breaking. First, one built up the additive tables (a kind of jigsaw thing at heart, really), and then attempted to discover the meaning of code words or phrases. The identification of the Midway as meant by a particular code word (the broken distaillation plant ruse) is an example of the latter. Stinnet and quite a few others seem to think that learing a few of the additives (from several thousands) consitutes a break (ie, intelligibility of message). To think so is to stretch meanings beyond all sense.
Stinnit (and perhaps others) also thinks that understanding how to break a cyrpto system is equivalent to doing so. Since OP-20-G had prepared an instruction manual for breaking JN-25, they (or someone) must have done so. Hence he has much suspicion about the missing messages and the motives of those who hid/destroyed them. He is wrong, in fact. For instance, it is clearly understood by all in the crypto biz that there is amethod which will in fact break any symmetric cypher, such as the most recent US standard, AES. And they are correct; a brute force attack will in fact ALWAYS break any message rpotected by such a cypher. The only, monor, drawback is that no such attack can actually be carreid out for any such cypher with sufficiently long randomly chosen keys. And the same was true earlier. And for both JN-25 and Enigma. Purple was solved much more thoroughly in that the Japanese didn't choose their keys very randomly, and once a copy of it was built by SIS, just about all the traffic could be converted to plaintext. So your edits on this point are confusing at minimum, and wrong if read in some ways. In any case, a reader may take from this that there was information available to <someone> that was hidden, withheld, or something, by someone, thus inviting speciulation as to why.
Hope this helps? ww 10:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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Tukhachevsky
I came across a reference to him, & (honestly) had never heard of him. How big was his influence on Zhukov? How much was he influenced by Fuller, Hobart, & Guderian? What would you say was the best source (in English) on his theory? Has he ever been translated? Thanks! Trekphiler17:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
The biography of that bloody demon prooves that nothing can stand against a state propaganda machine vielding unlimited budgets.
Most of his military science is about how to set up bolshevik tyrany in the conquerred lands, how to liquidate unwanted classes etc. His "selected" works are available (free) online. http://militera.lib.ru/science/tuhachevsky/index.html
He was much elder that Guderian. Of course, during the USSR/Germany military cooperation, (Pre 1933) period, there was intensive exchange of ideas between these brothers. Much is written about that.
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Would you support the concept of moving the Earhart "myths" to a separate page or article? The reason for my suggesting this is that the main article should be an accurate and scholarly work while the speculation and conspiracy theories surrounding the disappearance of Amelia Earhart are interesting, they belong in a unique section. Most researchers, as you know, discount the many theories and speculation that has arisen in the years following her last flight. Go onto the Earhart discussion page and register your vote/comments...and a Happy New Year to you as well. Bzuk 02:50 3 January 2007 (UTC).
In my other life, I am an editor and author and the saga of the first Polish Battle of Britain pilots always intriqued me. An opportunity to meet S/L Janusz Zurakowski led to my approaching him to assist in an article I planned to write about him and others. By a complete misunderstanding (and partly due to his hearing loss after years of sitting behind roaring piston engines), he understood that I intended to write his biography. The next thing I knew, in the mail arrives copies of his log books and bits of an extensive scrapbook he had been keeping. As you know, in Canada, "Zura" is famous as the first pilot of the doomed supersonic Avro CF-105 Arrow but as I got to know him, I realized that he had led a fabulous life which was dominated by his love of flying but also transcended into world politics- his father was murdered by the Gestapo in an elaborate "hit" while his wife was arrested by the Communists in Poland for trying to flee. Her life became interwoven in the story as she was a courier for the Polish underground and faced down an angry Gestapo officer who had a gun to her forehead. However, Zura led a romantic existence as a pre-war Polish fighter pilot who on the first days of the conflict was an instructor at an advanced flight training centre. Undaunted by his "clapped out" PZL P7, he had a machine gun mounted and nearly destroyed a Dornier Do 17 that had attacked his airbase; the Dornier made its escape by simply outrunning the outmoded Polish trainer. Zura was pulled out of combat to fly the British Hurricanes that were coming into Rumania when the fighting suddenly changed as the Soviets attacked Poland on its southern front. He escaped internment in "friendly" Rumania by disquising himself as a "forester" and making his way via Libya to France. There he was again drafted to go to England as a "bomber" pilot, a decision that astounded him since he spoke fluent French and was an experienced combat fighter pilot. The RAF, in desperate need of pilots in the upcoming Battle of Britain, accepted him as a fighter pilot where he served with great distinction in 234 Squadron bringing down three "Jerries" and damaging two others. After the Battle, he was converted into an advanced combat instructor (his old trade) but pressed for a front line role. He was transferred to the new Polish squadrons where he served as a CO as well as S/L again racking up another victory and adding to his row of medals with the "Polish VC." With the prospect of being laid up as a "desk jockey," he applied for test pilot training, graduating from Boscombe Down as one of the first wartime test pilots. He went on to test every combat aircraft in the RAF arsenal as well as those of Allied countries. At the flight test centre, he became famous as one of the best aerobatic pilots around, specializing in high-performance jets. Gloster Aircraft hired him as a civilian test pilot in 1947. He went on to create dazzling flight displays with the Gloster Meteor, even finding a way to do the "impossible," the famous "Zurabatic Cartwheel" which nearly suspended the heavy fighter in mid-air. Avro Canada hired him in 1950 to test the CF-100 which he promptly proceeded to fly supersonically by diving it at full speed. He was appointed the Chief Development Test Pilot of the Avro Arrow and then the story morphs into legend and myth... Bzuk 19:01 3 January 2007 (UTC).
Hi. You made some comments on the talk page for the article on hockey player Herb Carnegie regarding the neutrality (or lack thereof) of the page. I rewrote the article in October, but someone has reintroduced earlier comments that turn it back into a anti-Carnegie screed. I reverted it to the earlier version, but I'm pretty new here and would appreciate it if a more "experienced" WP editor could take a look. Much thanks, Blotto adrift 16:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Trekphiler,
I put the following comment on the Talk:Western_(genre) page, in reference to the removal of the literature section:
What I meant to argue in that comment was that the article needed to be rewritten to consistently acknowledge the cross-media application of the term Western. I agree that the way the literature section was originally implanted in the page, it was ineffectively surrounded by film-centric material, but I think that can be fixed without wholesale removal of the literature content. Would appreciate your further comments on that. Thanks. Planetneutral 16:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
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I can see your argument for doing that (although it's a reversal of the pro-active merger of these pages that took place in 2005), although I wonder if it will be worth the effort.
The central problem with breaking out Western films will be individually redirecting the more than 500 wikilinks to the Western (genre) page, many of which are from movie and actor/actress entries. You'll also have the work of leaving a meaningful genre page, which I think is still important to have. And you'll need to include your breakout options on the Western dab page so that readers don't have to double dab (Western>Western (genre)>Western films).
I wouldn't breakout Western comics unless you're actually going to write the article. At present, the Western comic content isn't worthy of its own entry. Planetneutral 12:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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I redid your citations for the article to make the references more concise. Please review my edits, especially what used to be reference #9, to make sure that I did them all properly. Thanks! Royalbroil T : C 23:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I have -- yeesh! -- 905 pages in my watchlist, and I think your reply got lost in a flurry of later entries, and I promptly forgot our discussion when some new shiny discussions popped up.
I myself have only (relatively) recently started to cite my own stuff regularly -- my previous thoughts "Why cite this? I know it's true!" I know it's gonna be a bugger, but I'm going to try to cite the nickname articles (famous last words), probably in the summer when classes are over. And I'll do it the way I mentioned, simply flagging an entry with a lettercode to indicate which book an entry came from, rather than than the whole <ref>Joe Blow, ''Book of Vile Darkness and Nicknames'', Pedant Press, 1922</ref> schtick.
And yes, I do find this stuff useful and interesting. I myself have either started or contributed majorly (word?) to a number of the nickname articles. I practically adopted List of monarchs by nickname, creating the "cognomen" and "sobriquet" sections, adding in the nicknames in the native language, etc; I also started the List of nicknames of historical personages (<- dumb name, what was I thinking?) I also created the athlete, entertainer, and hockey nickname articles, so you can imagine what my opinion is of another article in that subject matter. I also created a baseball list, which included the nicknames of teams, stadiums, etc, but I think it got deleted as "cruft" (God, I hate that word!). And I agree, seems we can have all kinds of crap lists, as long as they are only "List of Pokemon with anger-management issues" or "List of monsters in Rogue with serifs". --SigPig |SEND - OVER 03:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hi,
At Dreadnought, you said "10x12 is usual form only for specs". I did wonder about whether that was the best way of doing it. On balance, I think you are right. So I do not mind your revert of those elements of the edit. I am not convinced that a full revert was necessary. So I have put the other edits back. I hope you don't mind. Keep up the good work on specifications. Regards Lightmouse 16:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Trekphiler - good to hear from you again! Yes, I finished the article... and since becoming involved with GA assessment, I've realised how poorly-constructed it is. When I eventually get round to it, I'll be conducting some major butchery. Your interest at the time was very helpful; as a complete newbie editor, your encouragement back then had a large part to play in making me feel welcome and my wanting to stay with the project. Kudos ;) EyeSereneTALK 16:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
The only case that occurs to me where "naval infantry" were actually different to marines is the British Naval Division in WW1, who were essentially "sailors in khaki".
However the SNLF fits the common definition/conception of marines as elite naval infantry.
Also naval infantry redirects to our article on marines. If there is a significant difference, we should have a separate article. Grant | Talk 00:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Is this what you're looking for? Arthurrh 08:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Hiya. In regards to your apparently POV changes to articles using the ((DANFS)) template, I'd suggest that if you have a problem with the template, you might want to discuss it on the template's talk page. According to the definition at plagiarism, it involves using info "without adequate acknowledgement" and I think the template constitutes that acknowledgement, besides which, since the book is a government work, apparently it's in the public domain. Katr67 19:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
maybe it's just me, but "U.S. submarines (with some aid from the British and Dutch)...", sounds flippant/sarcastic/insecure. The three British sub flotillas concerned are only a small contribution relative to the US.
Anyway, is this finickiness about national contributions in various services and at different points during the war, so important? It seems likely that the British and Dutch torpedoes worked better than the American (or Japanese) ones. Should we mention that? Judging by your detailed contributions at Talk:Douglas MacArthur, you seem to be to be well aware how ungrateful Dugout Doug was, to the predominantly Filipino and/or Australian forces under his command, prior to mid-1943. Should we mention that? Grant | Talk 14:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't suggesting it didn't influence deliveries to Guad, just that it wasn't that simple, & IJA's perceptions of Vandegrift's strength needs to be mentioned, IMO. Trekphiler 08:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Just noticed Mark 14 torpedo. I've come across an online source for that journal ref somewhere, but since my hard drive crashed :C I can't find it. Have you seen it? Trekphiler 20:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
You may be looking for this also here LeadSongDog 23:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Have a look at the Tautog infobox? It's showing "struck" rather than "stricken", & won't accept a change to that without wiping out the section entirely. Nor will it accept an add "as built" without putting it in a weird place... Trekphiler 15:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
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Most of your recent changes were at Pearl Harbor were mine. Nearly all of them were either mere compositional word choices, or in the case of the agenda laden ones to correct a tone of justified Japanese grievance against US agression (ie, the progressive embargoes). You seem to have seen them in some other way. How exactly? ww (talk) 04:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Trekphiler, the article had become a little fat in the trivia mid-section, "looking strangely fat", as they say in Egypt when you find a strings of crocs dangling from your waist. He, he. Best wishes, Afv2006 (talk) 13:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
You never have to make your name public. Your username is enough for the "author" part (even "Anonymous" works). I noticed some of your images are missing licensing info too. You should add the appropriate license tag (depending on how you want to release them). Based on your other images that you did license, you probably just want to add ((self|GFDL|cc-by-3.0)). Rocket000 (talk) 10:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
sorry about leaving posts at possibly strange places, but i don't know how to do better
here is a response to the pearl harbor edit.
it's not my browser, this phrase sounds odd, like it has too many ands in it. Check source.
"and two destroyers beyond repair, and destroyed and 188 aircraft" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.253.202 (talk) 08:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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Yah, I couldn't edit because the page is locked. I should get an account sometime. Thanks for the edit.
Hi Trekphiler, I see that on PT boat you have restored a reference to a non-existant article called "Steam Torpedo Boat". You also added a reference to the Steam Gun Boat. Now I am the creator of the article on the steam gun boat and I am also the one who removed your reference to the steam torpedo boat. I removed your reference to the steam torpedo boat because, as far as I am aware, they existed back in Confederate times but certainly not as PT boats in the second world war. I did not link to the steam gun boat because it is not a torpedo boat. For the same reason, I would not add a link to the Fairmile C motor gun boat, which is also my own article. Nor, more generally, would I link to Motor Gun Boat.--Geronimo20 19:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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There is a more precise (and useful) method of calling an article a stub than writing "This page is a stub. You can help by adding to it...". You can simply put in a stub template (a list of which can be found here. Other than that, great articles. A lot of them aren't really stubs, just a bit short. Kakofonous (talk) 21:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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Just a note, you put your idea on the main article page rather than the talk page....didn't know whether that was intentional or not Narson (talk) 12:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed your entries in Deadend project. An advice: When you fix something: delete it from the list. Friendly, -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC) I usually put as much as links as possible and add some tags (orphan, etc.). But your edits seemed ok. Maybe they were lacking some tags but I am not sure. Maybe the articles were fine from this point of view as well. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC) When you add internal links, just remove deadend tags. Not orphan unless you find articles to link in it. There is another project dealing with orphan articles. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Please don't blank an article after you merge its content, instead create a redirect for navigational purposes. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Not sure I know of a good source - was their something in particular you were interested in and I might do a little hunting around. MilborneOne (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
How do I respond when you delete my previous message? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.1.17 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Steamed? Anyway, check the content of the contributions I was deleting on Jan. 3. That's all I ask, and all that's required to acquit me of the charge of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.1.17 (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Apology accepted. I am somewhat new to Wikipedia and don't yet know all the "tricks" involved in doing things "elegantly". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.1.17 (talk) 00:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Just to help the aircraft project you might want to look at ((aerostart)) template which is used to create aircraft articles. It would be useful if you create an aircraft article to add it to Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft) this flags it up to other editors in the project to come and help (which in my case means correcting my typos!) . Thanks MilborneOne (talk) 18:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
He Trekphiler - I just made a series of edits to User:MilborneOne's talk page to show you how the ((aerospecs)) template works. If you check the page history I've commented every step, so you can see how to make it work for you next time. You can now go ahead and transplant it into the article yourself! Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 20:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
It would be really helpful if you would use the new template; the only issue with "seeing" is the line that controls whether the template shows the specifications "met" first or "eng" first. Every new article created with the new template is one that someone else doesn't have to clean up later! :) --Rlandmann (talk) 21:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
To help with the "bug" then :)
Try this:
Hope this helps! --Rlandmann (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, very very few references intended for a general readership will indicate the rpm at which the quoted power figure was produced at; which is why Wikipedia has generally not included these figures in articles about aircraft. On the other hand, articles about aero engines generally do include this information wherever possible (as indeed they should).
The reason for the non-inclusion of this figure (and fuel capacity, take-off and landing runs, and any of dozens of other potential candidates for inclusion) is to keep our level of detail commensurate with the level of detail in those general reference works. To get a feel for this, take a look at the general books about aircraft in a small-to-mid-size public library or in an average, non-specialist bookshop.
Of course, then there will always be someone who wants to specify the distance from the ground to the propeller hubs (real example! I wish I could find the link - was a couple of years ago now...), which I think we can both agree is excessive ;) --Rlandmann (talk) 03:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
We are, most assuredly, writing for a generalist audience: "the educated layperson", and the level of detail needs to be equivalent to what that educated layperson would expect to find in a traditional encyclopedia (as opposed to, say, a pilot's manual, Jane's, or a monograph for aviation enthusiasts). The Wright Whirlwind article is now way past that point. You might like to take a read of What Wikipedia is Not - the section on "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" is relevant to our discussion here. The art of writing a good article lies very much in choosing what to leave out as much as what to put in.
I'm surprised by your remark that Britannica provides a higher level of detail than Wikipedia's articles on aircraft. Maybe the print version is different, but most of the aircraft I've just surveyed in the online edition don't even mention what type of engine was used, let alone its power output (let alone at what altitude or rpm that power output was achieved at). I also wasn't able to find a single separate article on an aero engine - not even the one I would have expected from Britannica, the Merlin.
However, you're very much on the right track as far as external links go: in fact, the whole external links policy is aimed at providing the reader with pointers to further reading "that is accurate and on-topic; information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail" (emphasis mine). So, by all means, familiarise yourself with that policy and then link away! --Rlandmann (talk) 06:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
On a different subject: categories. One of the general rules of categorisation on Wikipedia is not to include articles in their specific category and into the parent(s) of that category. Therefore, if an article is in Category:United States fighter aircraft 1930-1939, it should not also be placed in Category:United States military aircraft 1930-1939, since the latter category includes the former category.
Also, trying to pipe an article to more than one spot in the same category (like you tried to do with Boeing P-29) doesn't work, since the pipe only determines where the link to the article will appear in alphabetical order, not what the link will look like. The correct way to achieve what you were trying to do is to add the categories to the redirect page (see the Boeing XF7B now). Note also that the XF7B now shows up in Category:United States fighter aircraft 1930-1939 in italics - this indicates that the entry in the category view is a redirect somewhere else. On a related note, when piping US military aircraft, please don't include X- and Y- prefixes, and be careful of that tricky USN designation system - some creative piping is required there. Take a look at the following decade: Category:United States fighter aircraft 1940-1949 - it's pretty much got its house in order now. --Rlandmann (talk) 06:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
There isn't a full list of aircraft categories, since any such list would contain several hundred subtly different entries and therefore be maddening to use. The category system is described here, or you can always start at Category:Aircraft and drill down. Another alternative, of course, is to find a similar aircraft and copy its category.
While the pattern isn't hard to learn, there are a couple of "gotchas", but they're probably best learned on a case-by-case basis. The project regulars do a pretty good job of catching new aircraft contributions and tying up the loose ends. The pattern I've seen over the years is that most newbies create articles about similar sorts of aircraft, and therefore learn the category scheme first and foremost through the aircraft that interest them. --Rlandmann (talk) 06:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello Trekphiler!
Nice to hear you're interested! The site is slowly improving, and we've also got a couple of users now who "specialise" in Planes. Vandal patrolling shouldn't be too bad at the moment, as we blocked IP editing in September after persistant vandalism. As we speak i'm testing an AVB, but it all depends on what happens. Let me know when you're over there though and i'll give you either Sysop rights of Rollback - it appears that you will need/want them, and I don't think you'll abuse them!
Bluegoblin7 11:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the half barnstar. I'm a little ambivalent about things at Attack recently, since the the last time I made a serious push on it, we managed to get FA status. I think reverting to that version of the article would be an improvement on what we have at the moment. Ah well.... ww (talk) 19:27, 2 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks trekp for the note about Aviation in World War I. If you check the edit summary you will find I reverted two different vandalism edits by an IP user. Because I do not have any of the fancy roll back tools I unid the latest vandalism then spotted the earlier vandalism and reverted that as well. I left a note on the users talk page and also because they have done it before have left a note with an Admin. MilborneOne (talk) 09:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I can't source it with my current material (it was something on Burma that pointed it out), but it is part of a pattern. For example, Operation U-Go was translated as "Operation C", as "U" (ウ) is the third letter. The style of ordering is called gojūon.
My guess would be that "Operation Z" is a pretty heavily distorted name. I've found reference for the Japanese operation being called "Hawaii Sakusen" (similar to "Mo Sakusen", the attack on Port Moresby; or "Mi Sakusen" their attack on Midway). Again, like Moresby, I've also found a (very weak) reference to the operation being referenced by its first two letters (Ha作戦 - The latter two characters stand for "sakusen" or, in English, "operation") here. From there, it probably got misinterpreted to be the kana character for "ha" (ハ) instead of "HA" as an abbreviation of Hawaii. Being that "ha" has already been translated as "Z" (in the Burma Campaign), it was probably the same thing.
Of course this is all original research, so it's probably not worth much to you. You're best bet would be to try and find the Official Japanese histories of World War II (or other reputable works by Japanese historians) and try to find the original code name for the attack on Pearl Harbor. Good luck. Oberiko (talk) 19:08, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Although I am trying to look for sources on sprint car, midget, & drag racers, I have found one so far that will be some use for you, in the mean time, I will try look for more, but as for sprint racing, have you tried asking user:Royalbroil, I think he knows better than me at this sort of stuff, but in the meantime I will try look through my bookmarks and will let you know within the week.
But in the meantime, have found these
http://www.na-motorsports.com/Racing/SprintCars.html http://www.ocair.com/newsletter/NLpage08.htm http://www.johnpadjenmotorsports.com/silverDollar/history.html http://www.winfield.50megs.com/Engines/Engines.htm http://www.draglist.com/stories/IMS%20DRL%20Story.htm
Willirennen (talk) 21:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, it is much appreciated in these early stages! Sorry to be a "noob" but could you give me a definition for 'boilerplate' and 'sandbox' and how to incorparate them. Also I was wondering if someone could help me with my profile, what else can I do to customize it apart from just standard text, (again, sorry if this is irrelevant, I'll hopefully get the hang of this quickly in the next day or two. Fogle45 (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Got you now thanks! Yeah I Use Firefox and it definately helps. Also I was experimenting with Sandbox last night, very useful. If you can past that stuff on to my talk page that would be great. Thanks again 11:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I didn't delete it??? (Trip Johnson (talk) 13:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC))
Yes he's always like that. I get tried of repeating the same info to him while he makes fragmented poor generalizations.
If you're interested in some decent articles let me know and I'd be happy to e-mail you some stuff. For example the SHIRIYA message was not intercepted at the time of its original transmission and no DF results were obtained. The message wasn't decrypted until years later. Cryptologia, Volume 31, Issue 3 July 2007 pg 232
I'm curious to see how far he will run with it.
ScottSScottS (talk) 05:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I wrote to the Rolls Heritage Trust. Sure enough the 100 years page has been removed (according to the e-mail I got). I'm sure that several pence a year in hosting fees was really cutting into the profit margins! Anyway the good news is they have collected the material into book form. I'm trying to track down a copy.
I have also found that many of these biographies are starting to appear in JSTOR as part of a collection of the Royal Society. They too are collected in book form, and I'm going to try to find a copy of that as well. I have a feeling it might be a tad on the expensive side, especially on this side of the pond in the GWN.
If you're interested, I'll keep you up to date on my success in finding these.
Maury (talk) 17:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
This is early for reasons LB22 and I understand.
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No problem. I found it odd that pics were sorely lacking, even on Commons. BrokenSphereMsg me 19:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your contribution to Minneapolis, Minnesota. I especially appreciated that you took the time to provide a citation. Unfortunately for a high level article like this it is a bit obscure (some big companies are not even mentioned). I did find one mention of an automobile but could not find the company in Google, looking quickly. I think many endeavors took the horse's name through endorsements. -Susanlesch (talk) 03:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, been rather off-wiki lately... How to link to an old version of a page:
stamped "23:25, 19 March 2008" from your talk page history
- and paste it as a link here : I mean this version
That is, the wikicode for that link looks like this:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Trekphiler&oldid=199465228 I mean this version]
Regards, and a late Happy Easter! --Dna-Dennis (talk) 10:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Forgot, if you don't want to link to the entire page, but highlight a particular edit, copy the link called "(last)" in the page history to the left of the date-stamp (instead of copying the datestamp link). --Dna-Dennis (talk) 10:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, glad you wrote, I was about to write to you. You did all the hard work on the list. I noticed that there were a lot of brands listed that weren't there just a few weeks ago, and saw all the edits you made. My source is The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805-1942 (3rd ed.) by Beverly Rae Kimes and Henry Austin Clark, Jr. I checked it out of the library and have it sitting right here. It is out of print and the places that have it used charge $200-$700 for it, so the library is probably your best bet on finding it. It's mindblowing in its comprehensiveness-- 1600+ pages, every pre-WWII car brand you can think of, and then some. All the dates and cross-references I have added to the list come directly from there. If you want to talk any more, my email is xjr.portfolio at that little Google mail thingie. Have a good one. SimonX (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
About the deletes- I didn't delete them on a whim, just so you know. I debated whether to leave them in or not. Now that you have the Kimes/Clark book, you can see how detailed it is. They list a lot of transplants of foreign companies manufacturing their autos in the US, but Decauville isn't one of them. As for Zabardust, it actually hasn't been on the list for that long. It was placed there just 7 edits and barely 3 months before you started working on the list last month. The person isn't a registered user and that is their ONLY edit on wikipedia. They only added Zabardust, nothing else. I tried finding info about Zabardust, but found nothing related to cars-- it seems to be a Bollywood-related term. That all seemed to me to point to vandalism, thus the deletion.
Speaking of deletion, what do you think of deleting truck brands on the list? There aren't many, but I think they should be on a separate list. I just got a new (for me) book from the library today that has White Hickory-- I had been unable to find info on that brand-- turns out they made trucks. This new book is great, it has a list of 5000 marques of US and Canadian cars. SimonX (talk) 19:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The American Car Since 1775, by the editors of Automobile Quarterly. As the title page to THE list reads: "5000 Marques A Listing of Automobiles Produced in the United States and Canada" It says there are 54 Canadian marques, but they aren't broken out separately. A sample entry is as follows:
American Simplex 1905-1910
Simplex Motor Car Co.
Mishawaka, Indiana
Company founded 1904. First car put on road July, 1905. Name changed to "Amplex" 1910.
So it just gives the essentials, with separate types of entries for unsubstantiated marques or for ones that were incorporated but never made any cars.
I'm going to take out the trucks. As for creating another new list, that would take more time than I would want to spend on it. There is still plenty of work to do on the car lists. Have a good day.SimonX (talk) 01:17, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Trek, I've looked at the source you used in creating the Curtiss XBTC-2 page. There's not enough differences from the XBTC-1 to warrant covering the -2 on a separate page, as both are Curtiss Model 96s, and both used R-4360 engines. TheXBT2C is related, using a downgraded engine and having two seats and radar. I beleive we can cover all three varaints on the same article, and still it would probably remain a stub for a long time. I'll give you a few hours to respond before making major changes. - BillCJ (talk) 22:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, the expanded article is at Curtiss XBTC, added the infobox, etc., along with redirects from the other options . - BillCJ (talk) 16:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Trekphiler/Ghostrider!
The PSW logo is here, as you requested! We have permission from Tim/Bernd to use it if it's promotong TSW/PSW, which it is!
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Do you mind explaining to me what is your problem with the information I added? Which part is flaming obvious? What do you mean by "what year was just mentioned? what year was the battle?" What part of my edits was "irrelevant"?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 09:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Instead of completely reverting my edits, why didn't you simply restore what you felt was (valuable?) information into the main body of the article? Is it possible that your "funky" comments might not be needed in this article?Shinerunner (talk) 00:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm not against humor and the edit you cited was a mistake on my part. My only defense is that I was working on that list line by line for about 3 hours straight in order to try to make some sense of all the references that have been added. I'm not sure if you noticed the history of this article, I've done some major work to it a few months back. When I decided to check back on it, the reference section looked like a train wreck.Shinerunner (talk) 01:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Polyglycoplex, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.
If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add ((hangon))
on the top of Polyglycoplex and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. DGG (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, but my free time resources are very limited, and I'd prefer to scope on Wiki instead (especially, that you can copy articles from here :-) By the way, articles on Polish aircraft on the Polish Wiki are usually of worse quality, than En-Wiki, because I'm writing about aircraft mostly here ;-) Pibwl ←« 13:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi. While I appreciate the good work you are doing, could you possible use better edit summaries? Although vandal warning (www.imanunrepentantmoron.com) may express your frustration eloquently, it may also deter the vandal from reforming, which is our ultimate goal in these interactions. Failing that, getting them blocked is the best way to deal with these editors. Remember WP:BITE and WP:CIVIL, even when dealing with editors you find unconstructive. I know how difficult that can be and I would be happy to be any help to you in any way that I can. Best wishes, --John (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Neither of the specs templates in general use are set up to accommodate alternate engine fits; the reason for this should be obvious - a large number of other specifications would also change depending on which engine was fitted (weights, maybe length, most if not all the performance specs). The accepted practice therefore is to pick one representative version and provide details for it. In a best case scenario, this will be the most numerous or most representative version, but sometimes practical concerns force us to select the version for which the best data is available! --Rlandmann (talk) 19:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
There isn't a category for "designer's origin" - nor do we probably need one, since in 99% of cases this won't differ from "manufacturer's origin" (and could open up other cans of worms - Anthony Fokker was a Dutchman - should Fokker aircraft built in Germany and currently categorised as German also be categorised as Dutch?)
As a simple "litmus test", ask yourself whether the LUSAC-11 is likely to be included in a book of American military aircraft; and whether it is likely to be included in a book of French military aircraft. --Rlandmann (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi again Trekphiler - just a quick note about piping categories; since it seems you haven't quite got the hang of it yet.
When you put an article in a category, the Wiki software by default slots it into straight alphabetical order within that category. Usually, this is what we want; but in case it isn't, we can pipe it to wherever we want it to appear in the alphabet.
To use a recent example you edited, putting Savoia-Marchetti into Category:Companies established in 1915 will make it appear under "S" in the alphabet when you view that category - which is where it should be. However, piping it to [[Category:Companies established in 1915|*]] tells the software "don't file this as S, file it as * instead". By convention, lists and other purely navigational articles are usually piped to *, since this separates them from the actual articles in the category. If you now click on Category:Companies established in 1915, you'll see Savoia-Marchetti isn't under S, where we would expect, but under *, where you placed it.
Piping is most frequently done in articles about people, since Western European convention files people familyname-givenname, but left to its own devices, the Wiki software will file these articles by their title, which is almost always givenname-familyname. To make sure that "John Smith" ends up filed correctly within Category:People with boring names, we would need to pipe the category link thus: [[Category:People with boring names|Smith, John]].
In aircraft articles, we often pipe category links to preserve designation sequences (otherwise, the Wiki software would file "Foo F-100" before "Foo F-21", since it's blindly following alphabetical order). This is especially important to getting those wacky pre-1962 USN designations in shape.
Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 00:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
While I don’t remember the source on the German tank problem, it might have been one of Joseph F. McCloskey’s three articles in the journal Operations Research back in 1987. These were
“The Beginnings of Operations Research: 1934-1941”. Operations Research, Vol. 35, No. 1, pp. 143-152, 1987
“British Operational Research in World War II”. Operations Research, Vol. 35, No. 3, pp. 453-470, 1987
“American Operational Research in World War II”. Operations Research, Vol. 35, No. 6, pp. 910-925, 1987
The second would be the most likely source of the three. Most sources on the history of OR in WWII only go through 1941 and the German tank problem arose in 1944.
Some other good general sources on WWII OR history are the following:
M. Fortun and S. S. Schweber wrote a good piece, “Scientists and the Legacy of World War II: The Case of Operations Research (OR)”, in Social Studies of Science, Vol. 23, No. 4 (Nov., 1993), pp. 595-642, Published by: Sage Publications, Ltd.
Erik P. Rau has a monograph “The Adoption of Operational Research in the United States during World War II” in Agatha Chipley Hughes’ and Thomas Parke Hughes’ Systems, Experts, and Computers: The Systems Approach in Management and Engineering, World War II and After, MIT Press, Cambridge, Mass., 2001.
The same year he also contributed a chapter on “Technological Systems, Expertise, and Policy Making: The British Origins of Operational Research” in Technologies of Power: Essays in Honor of Thomas Parke Hughes and Agatha Chipley Hughes, The MIT Press, Cambridge, Mass., 2001.
More recently he has published Combat Science: the Emergence of Operational Research in World War II, Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA, 2005. ISSN 0160-9327
There is a recent book I have not read, entitled An Annotated Timeline of Operations Research: An Informal History published in 2005 by Saul I. Gass, Arjang A. Assad. It might have some interesting insights, but when I skimmed it, I wasn’t too impressed; if anything, it’s a little too informal and rambles briefly through a lot of topics.
Of course, if you're looking for the "standard text" on the subject of ops research itself, that would probably remain the work of Philip M. Morse & George E. Kimball, Methods of Operations Research, The MIT Press, Cambridge Mass. and John Wiley, New York, 1951.
Hope that helps,
Askari Mark (Talk) 02:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
YOU can nominate for the F1 picture of the month here and F1 driver of the month here. Chubbennaitor 18:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Ben Salomon, who finally was recognized with a posthumous Medal, 60 years or so later. I don't think, as some have charged, that anti-Semitism was the issue. It really was a very tough call under the prevailing laws of land warfare -- even today, there are rules against crew-served weapons for medical personnel. As far as I could tell, every contemporary account of his sacrifice considered it a Medal of Honor action.
Sometime in the early sixties, the U.S. Army made clear that medical types could choose between going armed with personal weapons (through automatic rifle), or wear the Red Cross. My mother was a reservist at the time, and had held expert rifle/pistol since WWII -- but never had thought she would use them in anger. Eventually, her particular choice was to go armed, but said she would only fire in defense of patients, not of herself alone.
A friend of mine retired as an Air Force parajumper, but was talked back for a couple of private military tours for the British in Iraq, primarily for his medical skills. The first tour was uneventful, but, knowing he is prone to understatement, it must have been quite an ambush when he commented, rather mildly, that he appreciated the speed with which the British got armor and tacair to them. He did say, however, that his .45 saved his life, hastening to add that he never fired it -- he was hanging upside down by his seat belt, with his pistol in a shoulder holster, and a bullet smashed the pistol. Had it not done so, he estimated the trajectory would have gone straight into his heart.
Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 21:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for you comments at Generic_role-playing_game_system. It was very brave of you to take a contrary view from the other contributors to the discussion.--Gavin Collins (talk) 09:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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Basically you shouldn't mess with the appearance of your talk page to intentionally hide/ignore warnings or users in dispute with you. You are welcome to link to a self created archive (such as, say, User_talk:Trekphiler/Archive 1. You can use your move tab to move the whole page history and start clean again, or you can copy and paste the contents as long as you point to where they came from to comply with the GFDL. Let me know if you have any further questions, it's a fairly straight forward procedure despite my complicating it with reason :)
As for making a signature, the preferences will let you set a signature that uses wikimarkup, HTML, or a combination of both (Wikimarkup can translate HTML color tags, for example). My signature, in the raw, is [[User:Keegan|<font color="maroon">Keegan</font>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Keegan|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup>. So as you see I have the link from my name to my userpage using the standard piping, and HTML syntax (such as <sup>) to manipulate it. I know little of HTML or that sort of thing, but it's something you can figure out with practice. You can practice with whether or not your sig will work by simply previewing it in an edit box. Here's the link with more information. Happy editing to you. Keegantalk 02:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey Trek, I think something went wrong with your edit here. "the Wall Street Journal reported Northrop Grumman was thron the project." doesn't make any sense, and I'm not certain where you were going with the rewrite. Since you probably remeber what you were trying to say, I thought I'd let you have a stab at fixing it first. Looks like your cursor took a whole line when you were deleting something - does it to me quite often! - BillCJ (talk) 02:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
The edits to the gallery in the custom car article were to correct misspellings and add Wikilinks in the descriptions, as well as provide a better organization and layout of the images. Your wholesale revert did not contribute to improving the article. Moreover, the descriptions contain numerous subjective statements. For example "a very contemporary design", "Recent", or "Fullbore custom" ... as all of these are POV and there are no definitions of these descriptions. Another example is the following text: "Also has cutom interior and headrests. Appears to have four-link front suspension." When the picture is of the exterior of the car, it is pure conjecture and not "important distinctions" as you claim. Moreover, you reintroduced numerous misspellings — such as "cutom" (well ... after all, this article is about CUSTOM cars!) , formatting errors — such as "Amc pacer" (rather than AMC Pacer), as well as undefined links — such as in "not gennie Hallibrands" (where "gennie" is a NOT word and I guess you mean the trademarked "Halibrand" wheels). I trust that you can see why the changes had to be made to improve this article. Thanks — CZmarlin (talk) 03:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
No pilot in World War II achieved aces status on the Me 163 or He 162 to my knowledge. According to Wolfgang Späte the most successful Me 163 pilot was Siegfried Schubert. Herbert Ihlefeld is said to be credited with one He 162 kill. MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
"Bubi", "Bub" or "Bübchen" is the hypocoristic form of "young boy" in the German language. I had stated this in the Erich Hartmann#Into the Luftwaffe article roughly 1/3 down 4th paragraph. MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I was in too much of a rush and misread your comment, so my apologies.Minorhistorian (talk) 04:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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"Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Mark 14 torpedo. Your edits constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. You don't perchance work at BuOrd, do you? Trekphiler (talk) 11:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)"
You sent me this message earlier via IP Ad. as I had not logged in when I made some changes.
The following quote in the Mark 14 torpedo page
"Blame for the inadequate weapon must be laid at the feet of the Bureau of Ordnance, which specified an unrealistically rigid magnetic exploder sensitivity setting and oversaw the feeble testing program. BuOrd hampered wartime investigation into Mark VI exploder problems by assigning the mechanism "secret" status, limiting knowledge of its inner workings to a few high-ranking officers, refusing to believe word of active duty sailors,[27] laying blame for failures on these very same men,[28] even sabotaging torpedoes to conceal defects"[29]
Blair does not say this "even sabotaging torpedoes to conceal defects" (ref [29]0. He details a story from Doug Rhymes, Tyrel Jacobs Torpedo Officer on board Sargo about when BuOrd flew a torpedo Expert out to Java to investigat the torpedo problems experienced by Sargo and how incompetant the "expert" appeared to be. In no way does Blair say or suggest that the BuOrd 'sabotaged' the torpedos.SeanF1 (talk) 18:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I gave your barnstar a headline. By the way, you need to add the last change bit to the message to make it really, really convincing. Well, everything has its positives, at least I was the first one! Have fun, I'm sure you will, EA210269 (talk) 07:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
You can vote for the Formula One Picture of the Month/Driver of the Month at User talk:Chubbennaitor/F1POM and User talk:Sage Callahan/F1DOM. We really need your votes as the last picture and driver was decided. Chubbennaitor 07:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the Barnstar. I knew it wasn't real because of various different things. Chubbennaitor 13:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
The automatic logoff caught us and I got bent out of shape because of context. No hard feelings. Dhatfield (talk) 22:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the Barnstar. I really liked your quirk, though I must say I was fooled. The reason I went to your page was actually that you had removed the WPNorway project banner from Kornsjø Station, and added the WPSweden one instead. After double checking that the station is actually in Norway (though of course near the border since it is a border station), I put back then WPNorway banner (keeping the Swedish). Then I took a look at your user account just to assure myself that you were up to nothing wrong (which of course you were not). And then I though I got a message.... Arsenikk (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar. I was surfing through links on random userpages and ended up on your page. I have fallen for it on someone elses page before too. Juthani1 tcs 01:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I believe you have to be an administrator to be able to see deleted content. Let me know if there's one in particular that you want to look at. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thanks for the userboxMaolain (talk) 23:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for the star, mate! Jared Preston (talk) 11:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I think you would want to nominate them at F1DOM because POM is picture of the month. If you have a great picture then add it to the one you nominated at. Chubbennaitor 14:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem. If you want you can edit the NW. Chubbennaitor 14:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
That's something I ran across in other materials some years ago, it might take a bit of work to track down again but I'll see what I can do. Most of my books are packed up during an extended move/renovation. Will let you know! —PētersV (talk) 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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Something wrong with your barnstarHi. On User talk:ARBAY your barnstar framebox appears to be running on into sections added later. --Una Smith (talk) 21:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Hey Trekphiler, I have recently found your hidden page, and I was wondering if oyu would like me to create a userbox people can paste to their talk pages and/or user pages saying they have found your hidden page? I am suggesting this because of...
Let me know your verdict on My Talk Page or here. Green1Blue2 (talk) 06:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the citations from Blair. Could you please also add the page numbers? I've got a copy of Silent Victory on order from Amazon.com, but it's half-way across the Pacific at the moment. Thanks, Nick Dowling (talk) 12:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC) Strange content removal edit commentJust noticed this edit of yours: link - might want to see if your automated editing software isn't on the fritz. You might want to give Wikipedia:How_to_archive_a_talk_page a squiz as well. ;-) Wongm (talk) 13:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC) Template:WP Space explorationAccording to the "Usage" note at the bottome of ((WP Space exploration)), that template has been deprecated and ((WPSpace)) it to be used instead. Were you aware of this? Is there some new consensus about using multiple space-related banners rather than the combined space banner? (sdsds - talk) 09:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC) Albrecht Von Kess'Hi. I have cited it in a book by Eisenhower, "The Bitter Woods: The Battle of the Bulge", on his page. But some other cretinous editor keeps deleting it, without explanation. Dapi89 (talk) 09:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC) The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXVIII (June 2008)The June 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
Film biosJust a heads up for future tagging - please be advised that biographies fall outside of WikiProject Film's scope, and should not be given a ((Film)) tag. Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 07:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC) July WPF1 Newsletter
The Great Hidden Barnstar: Barnstar
Cycle fendersI have to admit I never heard of cycle fenders. (I am living in England.) Maybe it's a North American phrase. Did you learn your mother tongue (assuming it's English) in Canada or the US, out of interest? I tried looking up cycle fenders in wiki, but ... well, you probably tried that already too. So I googled it and sure enough you're right. But it still set me head scratching: I agree that motor-bike style mudguards is ugly, though. Maybe I'll ask Kieren since he's in on this and he is a man who takes his English seriously. (As far as I can remember he learned his English in Scotland where a lot of them take their English seriously.) Charles01 (talk) 19:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC) Re:ThanksI think that nitwit was looking to be blocked, so I was happy to oblige! ... discospinster talk 00:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC) Re:Viva Españacan you read here: official web of spanish armada (navy) cita: BANDERA DE PROA O TAJAMAR O TORROTITO emplea en buques de guerra. Determina el ceremonial marítimo que en los días festivos y en otras ocasiones de engalanado se ice a proa, en el bauprés, una bandera pequeña denominada de tajamar o torrotito, que desde el siglo XVII fue idéntica a la nacional, hasta que el Reglamento de Banderas, Insignias y Distintivos, de 11 de octubre de 1945, la creó cuartelada, con los cuatro cuarteles de Castilla, León, Aragón y Navarra, que actualmente mantiene. Tralation (aprox): Naval Jack, flag's bow, Tajamar o torrotino Its used in war ships IIs used in festive days ... a little flag called tajamar or torrotino, since 17th century, was the national flag. Since 11 October 1945 was created the called "cuartelada", with four quarters ..... --Takashi kurita (talk) 11:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
My first article in englishChurruca class destroyer ... im sure one revission is needed
--Takashi kurita (talk) 08:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
--Takashi kurita (talk) 12:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Artile over Miranda write for me in WP:ES
--Takashi kurita (talk) 13:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC) SpeedI live in a country where highspeed broad band is delivered down very old copper wires. At busy times of day - like when the kids get home from college and start watching movies on line - high speed is so fast that you might as well take a bath while it downloads or times out. In many ways that's my problem. However, your discussion page is (unless I flatter myself) for communicating with people like me, and that makes it your problem. I find myself avoiding your wiki-discussion page because of problems downloading it timely / at all. I thought you ought to know... On the subject of pots and kettles, yes. I've been meaning to archive most of my own discussion page for at least six months. Then again, what's wrong with a spot of (relatively) harmless hypocrisy? Regards Charles01 (talk) 08:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC) RMS Lusitania very good editsI noticed your edits to Lusitania article even though I didn't mind mentioning John Brown as far as the engineers were concerned, but what you did was okay and makes good grammar. Also nn need to hy-link a person, group etc more than twice in an article. I try to get people on Wikipedia to recognize that. Makes good form. Koplimek (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Re:Golden OldieWith a little help one authomatic traslator, and WP:EN, is easy to me traslate to spanish articles in english.... (olny forn themes that i dominate... ships). And olny when i have got time. --Takashi kurita (talk) 17:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC) Re: I feel unuserboxedThe userbox is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Outreach/User WPMILHIST Military land vehicles task force. I think it's listed somewhere on the task force page (since I'm fairly certain there's a link to a userbox slot in the task force boilerplate), but it might have disappeared for some reason. Cheers! Kirill (prof) 01:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC) 2nd and 3rd traslationSánchez Barcáiztegui and Almirante Ferrándiz, two Churruca class... i hope your comments :D --Takashi kurita (talk) 10:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
"All ships returned". same up point
--Takashi kurita (talk) 11:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
(spanish navy traditions.....)
say probabliy Lepanto... and say: Sanchez Barcaiztegui 4 torpedoes (2:17 AM) distance : 533 m --Takashi kurita (talk) 13:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC) interested in ships
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Cite: "On March 5, 1938, both Nationalist heavy cruisers sailed off from Palma de Mallorca naval base with a light cruiser, Almirante Cervera, and three destroyers. The squadron acted as a distant cover of a ship convoy bearing war equipment from Italy. On the same day, Republican forces, consisting of two light cruisers (Libertad, a modern vessel, and the older Méndez Núñez) and five destroyers, sailed from Cartagena. At night, Nationalist destroyers returned to base, while the cruisers remained on course. The squadrons, going in opposite directions, met by chance in the dead of night. A Republican destroyer fired torpedoes but missed, and both fleets passed by the other. Nationalist Rear Admiral de Vierna preferred to wait until dawn, which would enable him to use his ships' superior artillery, but Republican Vice Admiral de Ubieto decided to turn and pursue the enemy. The fleets met again at about 2:15. Nationalist cruisers opened fire on Libertad from a range of about 5 kilometers, and Republican cruisers returned fire. However, due to lack of experience in night combat, neither artillery barrage proved effective. As the cruisers duelled, a line of three Republican destroyers, probably unnoticed by the Nationalists, approached the battle. At about 3 kilometers from their targets, destroyers Sanchéz Barcáiztegui, Lepanto and Almirante Antequera fired 12 torpedoes. Two or three torpedoes, probably from Lepanto, scored devastating hits on Baleares." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Takashi kurita (talk • contribs) 14:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Diferent succes
--Takashi kurita (talk) 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC) Re: Barnstars 'R' UThank you for the shiny new barnstar, and for the heads up about my signature. CKHideki 01:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I was looking at Talk:Hideo Nomo because of his recent retirement, and I was intrigued by the signature you were using at the time. CKHideki 01:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lotfor The Rosetta Barnstar... is a pleasure work in this with you... --Takashi kurita (talk) 05:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC) The 4th and 5thThe 4th and 5th are waiting for you .. ;) Spanish destroyer Lepanto and José Ferrándiz y Niño --Takashi kurita (talk) 08:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC) ThanksFor constant advice and reviewing the student's progress at military sociology article! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
It's not that I think it well written (so far... I am hoping it will be improved), but per WP:BITE - I've refactored your statement. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Btw, feel free to tag the articles with general and inline templates, that should make us feel better. As I said, I'd prefer the students to create/improve content, but we certainly can point out what needs to be fixing. In the end, they are all newbies, and it is only to be expected that their first article(s) will suffer from many problems. Pointing them out is one of the things we can do.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC) A few things to add if/when you can:
--Takashi kurita (talk) 11:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
A couple of things to add if/when you can:
Also, any biographical info you can find, like who was her captain at any time (especially when she ran down C-4, & who commanded C-4 then) would be great. Add when you can get to it? Also, I deleted "Spain" from the "Ship country" parameter in the infobox; unless a ship served with more than one country, I don't think it's necessary. official is C-4... but in a lot of sites, you can se C4. In C-4, was Capitan de corbeta (Major) Francisco Reina Carvajal --Takashi kurita (talk) 11:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Mad magazineHi. Who were you addressing as "smart guy" in your recent Edit Summary, and what linked article were you referring to? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
First of all, you're not really being civil when you start off your posts with "Pay attention". So please calm down. Wikipedia is not something to get worked up about. Whether there is a source in the linked article is irrelevant. Articles cannot be used as sources in other articles, nor is doing so a substitute for placing that source in the second article. I am under no obligation whatsoever to consult a wikilinked article during the course of my editing activities, nor is any other editor. Would it be appropriate to do so? Sure. But is it required? No. Everyone has their own style and habits regarding wikilink-exploring, and I did not have the time to go clicking on other articles. If you must know, being away from home, and on a public computer in a library with limited hours, slogging through that Mad article, and tagging all the unsourced material was taking up enough time as it was, and I still had more articles that piled up on my watchlist while I was away to get to. You point out that you added a footnote to that passage, and claim you got it from that article. Yes, but you added that footnote after I fact-tagged it, so it's not as if I fact-tagged a passage that already had a cited source. Thus, fact-tagging it when it had not such citation at the time, was valid. Yes, you overreacted....twice. First in the Edit Summary in question, and then by personally attacking me on my Talk Page. I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say, "And...no, I'm not going to say it. There's no way to say it without being a dick", but yes, you are mostly certainly capable of communicating with other editors without sounding like a dick. Whether you do or not is based on your desire to make the effort to do so, not whether it's not possible to do so. Thanks for adding the cite. Take care. Nightscream (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
"And then you start with a block threat." No. You started with repeated insults, and your continued attempts to selectively rewrite the chronology of our exchanges is not going to change this. The warning you were given was the reasonable response to that, and is consistent with Wikipedia policy. Which part of this do you dispute? "That is not calculated to get a civil response, & it didn't." It's calculated to make you aware that your behavior is unacceptable, and that if you continue it, you'll be blocked for it. The only response it should receive from you is an acknowledgment that you will not continue that behavior, and yes, civility. The other editors and administrators on Wikipedia are not required to walk on eggshells when admonishing you for your behavior, nor is your irritation at being reprimanded a blank check to continue the behavior in question. It almost seems as if you are implying that you have the right both to insult other editors, to regard policy-based admonishments of that behavior as some type of infringement upon your rights, and that such admonishment is justification for further behavior. It isn't. Even if you saw something in my fact-tagging that you disagreed with, or disputed the validity of my warnings to you, the fact remains that there are valid ways that Wikipedia prescribes to resolve such disputes. Misportraying your exchanges with an administrator warning you about your policy violations so as to cast him as someone victimizing you with "threats", falsely portraying insults on your part as not insults, and claiming that dissent on your part justifies further behavior, aren't among them. Nightscream (talk) 04:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
BarnstarHi, I found your hidden barnstar while reading your user page. I was actually wondering what happened to your picture??? --Ŧħę௹ɛя㎥ 03:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
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