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A tag has been placed on Nikmat HaTraktor requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.
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I have nominated Nikmat HaTraktor, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nikmat HaTraktor. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. --VS talk 11:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Comsec Consulting Ltd., requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.
If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add ((hangon))
on the top of Comsec Consulting Ltd. and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Eeekster (talk) 10:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to introduce inappropriate pages to Wikipedia, such as Comsec Consulting Ltd., you will be blocked from editing. Eeekster (talk) 10:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you remove a speedy deletion notice from a page you have created yourself, as you did with Comsec Consulting Ltd., you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Eeekster (talk) 10:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Concerning your contribution, File:CurrentComsecLogo.gif, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). As a copyright violation, File:CurrentComsecLogo.gif appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. File:CurrentComsecLogo.gif has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.
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I see that you have a strong objection to the deletion of an article and have taken it to Deletion Review. That's fine, and not an unreasonable thing to do. But the approach you are taking is not likely to be one where you make forward progress.
Wikipedia is unusual. It is a place of strongly held opinions, sometimes expressed hidden behind the venom of militant politeness. It is not a gentle place. And, for good or ill, it works by an approach of consensus.
This means that the whole content is decided by those, you included, who make the content. That's usually good, but can result in difficulties.
I can't judge the text you created in the article for neutrality. I'll take your word for it being neutral, well written and well cited. So may I suggest a quiet approach as follows:
The approach you are using is just going to alienate the people you would prefer to be with you rather than against you.
I'm wholly unbiased here. I have no interest in the article itself except to ensure insofar as it is possible that any eventual article is a good one. I'm afraid you have had a baptism of fire. The best approach now is to allow the flames to cool. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Quite a lot to read and digest, but read this essay as well as the note to you on my talk page:
This is an essay.It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints.
This page in a nutshell: This is an essay, intended for new editors, to help them to understand things at Wikipedia If you are to have an enjoyable time here adding articles and editing articles you need to understand how the place works. It doesn't matter about how it, perhaps, ought to work, nor about how you want it to work. What matters is how it works. Once you understand this then you will be able to add new articles to your heart's content, confident that they will survive.
I'm afraid this means a bit of reading for you. Look at Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not first. Look especially at Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Once you understand this then you have pretty much the entire trick to it.
It means that just adding a new article is insufficient. Wikipedia does require some work from its contributors. Creating an article with minimal information, providing no other citations, and doing no other work is doomed to failure.
To create a successful article there really should be:
- notability of the topic that is the subject matter of the article. This is non-negotiable. Read Wikipedia:Notability.
- citations to the topic from reliable sources. Check the definition of reliable sources, and learn how to use the CITE facilities in the edit window. You can add a parameter |quote= to the cite before you save it and use a relevant snippet of the item you are citing, too.
- We require references from significant coverage about the entity, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42
- For a living person we have a higher standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS
- Do not forget a section for References ==References== and put in it the text ((Reflist)) to receive the things you cite.
- wikilinks to other articles. An article that is a dead end is sometimes reasonable, but usually there are useful places to link to. Check that the destination is the article you expect, do not just create a wikilink and hope for the best.
- wikilinks to the article you have created from other articles. This means that the article is not "orphaned" and that others will find it.
- inclusion of the article in the most relevant category (or categories). Read Wikipedia:Categorization.
- If a short article, deploy ((Stub)) in the article, or, better, deploy the best possible stub tag. Read Wikipedia:Stub.
One very important thing is to "let go" once you have posted the article. The only time it is "yours" is when it's in your head. The moment you place it on Wikipedia it becomes "everyone's" Letting go of your baby is hard. Read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. On Wikipedia we don't mother articles, we father them. Or we do that if we want to stay sane. Don't wrap the article in warm towels, send it out to graze its knees! Edit it further, yes, of course, but you have released your child to go and play outside. Watch it from a distance and just correct things when absolutely essential.
Please never, not ever, confuse the truth that you know and are 100% certain about with verifiable facts. Even if you know((OR)) the colour black to be((cn)) black, unless there is a citation for it, the obvious((cn)) truth that it really((cn)) is black still has no place here. Indeed a statement that Black is White[1][2][3] with a citation in a reliable source that this is so takes absolute precedence over the truth, Wikipedia is based upon citations and citable, verifiable facts, not upon truth, because it is an encyclopaedia, and, rightly or wrongly, that is what an encyclopaedia does.
Useful vs Notable
[edit]I know you will appreciate the distinction. Very many celebrities are notable, almost none are useful. The reverse is true of many tools.
The problem Wikipedia has with things which are useful is that it is not a compendium of useful things. Indeed many notable things (celebrities!) are wholly useless, but they have articles because they pass WP:GNG.
There is a trick to getting articles accepted in such a manner that they reman here. The trick is to demonstrate WP:N, never usefulness. Sometimes that means cutting a lot of genuinely useful material from an article to concentrate only on the items that make it notable. For genuinely useful things notability can be found, usually, given time.
We expect people to go to the source for things that are useful but not notable. That also means that an article about Foo has to concentrate on the notability of Foo, with the assumption that folk will be inspired to visit foo.com to discover the heady delights of rolling about in Foo.
How to plan
[edit]It's pretty formulaic, a process:
- Find references, good ones. WP:42 ones
- Select the facts from those references that you wish to use (you will cite the facts with those references WP:CITE is your friend here)
- Create a storyboard from those facts
- Using WP:AFC use the article wizard to start a new draft. It is not mandatory, but it guides you
- Write very neutral, flat prose, citing the references for the facts
- Double check your work and submit the draft when happy
- While awaiting review, continue to enhance your work
Note that an inability to find references means the draft is unlikely to be accepted (0.9 probability). We want new articles here, and we try hard to maintain high standards.
In conclusion
[edit]Doing these things, even imperfectly, means that others are likely to be kindly disposed to the new article, and, if it is about a notable topic, likely to expand it. Even if they do not expand it the survival of the article is enhanced because it is likely to be suitable for inclusion in the encyclopaedia. This is because it is a useful article since it gives information. It is insufficient for an article simply to exist, it must have value.
Things "ought to have articles here." I hope you understand that every editor here thinks that things ought to have articles here, too, even those who propose articles for deletion. There must, though, be initial article quality. That initial article may be very short, but, even in extreme brevity, must meet the guidelines, and must have the building blocks from which it may be expanded alongside genuine and verifiable notability. Read Wikipedia:Verifiability.
If those building blocks are not present and the article is not about a notable thing, and has no verifiability from reliable sources then the article has no value to anyone, however well-written it is. Read Wikipedia:No original research.
I truly hope this helps you understand how to start to create good articles and enjoy being here. You may have had a baptism of fire and learnt that it is not a gentle place. Working within the rules can be rewarding. Trying to push the envelope always fails.
Apart from taking constructive comments on board and learning your trade here, realise that this is a complex place, and not always very kind. The only thing to take personally here is praise. Everything else is fluff and flummery and background noise.
These are my thoughts. You may disagree, so may others. That's fine, that is part of what Wikipedia creates - we work together. If you disagree, please let me know by using User talk:Timtrent/A good article and we can discuss it.
References
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- ^ "Circle of Sophistry". National Federation of the Blind. Retrieved 2013-11-18.
White, as everyone knows, is the absence of color, and black is the opposite. Yet, what we call black reflects no light waves at all and is, thus, the absence of color—while what we call white (again to quote the dictionary) is: "The reflection of all the rays that produce color." Therefore, the logic is inevitable: black is white, and white is black.- ^ "Black-Is-White - Trailer - Cast - Showtimes". The New York Times. Retrieved 2013-11-18.
- ^ McCutcheon, George Barr. Black is white. Open Library. OL 7113506M. Retrieved 2013-11-18.
The essay is not formal WP advice, it's mine. A couple of folk have said that it has been useful. You may disagree with pleasure :) And if you do, please tell me Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
It is at User:Shar1R/Comsec temporary page.
I can see why it was deleted, because it does read like a PR document. I'm goig to have a go at it to start to knock it into shape. Please take cues from me, AND ask others to take a look. While we may not be "right" we will be able to make it a useful basis for others to work form and I am confident that it will go back as an article. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
I've asked that the article be returned to the main namespace. The request is at the Deletion Review. It now depends on others, which is right and proper.
What we need from you is citations to go at the two places where a citation is needed. I suggest that you find them and then let me or another editor know, and we can insert them into the article. This means that you find, we judge, and you do not get accused of COI.
I wonder if you would also email me privately (link on my talk page, left hand margin). Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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