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Yeah, I didn't intend a RM, but I also realised the need for harmonisation, especially because many editors, in their (understandable) support to the Ukrainian side, seem to have forgetten about basic tenets of Wikipedia, like WP:NPV. — kashmīrīTALK19:38, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Either we make an RfC or else ask for the reverse renaming for Kherson so that the decision is harmonized at the end of the discussions. Panam2014 (talk) 19:47, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
I find that your wholesale removal of my contributions, along with a templated stop sign and a threat of a ban to be grossly over the top. If you wish to edit my contributions you are more than able to do so, however to remove them completely is disrespectful. Your claim that I have a pro-Ukrainian bias is nonsense. As I have given the Russian flown and operated Ka-52 a glowing review. It is currently being used to destroy Ukrainian operated tanks. I have always sought to give as much time to what Russian officials say as do Ukrainian officials. You also acted sarcastically when I quoted from an anonymous soldier. Perhaps you aren't aware but most Ukrainian soldiers use nom de guerre for security reasons. So am I supposed to use a call sign? How many anonymous sources, such as "unnamed US officials", appear in modern journalism today?
As to the Russian usage of a tank for a VBIED that was cited by CNN and the ISW have mentioned it in their Assessment for 20 June stating: "Footage published on June 19 indicates that Russian forces conducted a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) attack on a Ukrainian position in an unspecified location in Zaporizhia Oblast with an infantry fighting vehicle loaded with explosives.[31] These VBIED attacks are likely incredibly imprecise (as they reportedly cannot be steered, driving straight forward until detonated by remote control unlike more advanced VBIEDs used by some actors in other conflicts) and are meant to disrupt Ukrainian operations more than cause actual damage to Ukrainian forces."
Your removal of it flys in the face of several mainstream sources reporting on it. Your definition of trivial is off the mark, particularly if this is repeated. The ISW are widely regarded as being the best observers of the ongoing conflict. With their reports widely cited on the 2023 Ukrainian Counteroffensive page. As to my sources I usually offer two sources for what I have posted and I am going on what the article says. In a word I am doing what the rules of Wikipedia say to avoid copyright, I am rephrasing the words. If it says that so many Ukrainian tanks were blown up I will post that on the relative Wikipedia page. I have also posted about Ukrainian involvement in the Nord Stream 2 explosion. Posting the evidence for Ukrainian involvement in this attack, how do you see this as pro-Russian?
You are using a machete when you would be better served using a scalpel. Jjmclellan82
No, it's not about using ISW as a source. It's that these are technical articles created to describe a given piece of equipment from a military point of view. To achieve this, they need to based on reliable secondary sources, ideally from the defence sector. These articles should not be turned into a war diary nor into a place to collect anonymous opinions. We don't do this for equipment lost by belligerents in other wars (Vietnam war, Iraq war, etc.). — kashmīrīTALK08:22, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I understand your point about war diaries and will keep it mind in future. I will also keep you comments in mind about military equipment and sources in future. These are things I can work with. I reject your position on my bias however we can agree to disagree. Jjmclellan82 (talk) 08:33, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
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Regarding the information removed from the page bhagwa dhwaj
Dear Kashmiri,
I am yamantakks, the person who wrote all the information you just REVERTED on the page of bhagwa dhwaj.
You wrote the reason of being not helful and blamed that it has vague claims of no informational values. If you feel any thing such like that, it would be polite enough of you to either raise that point in Talk page:Bhagwa dhvaj or edit that information ONLY.
Hi Yamantakks. You are a new editor and I understand well that a reversal of your work may feel frustrating. However, please keep in mind that Wikipedia, as a collaborative project, is governed by certain policies and procedures. For instance, most text must be sourced to a reliable source (yours was not). Then, we have a Manual of Style that standardies the use of headings, length of sections, capitalisation, and so on (you disregarded it). Finally, the text should be written in a good informational style.
Good morning Kashmiri. You have removed links to model from various pages. I have read your MOS:OL, but do not find that it applies in this case. In fact, your MOS:OL implicitly recommends linking a common word such as London if the context is unclear, such as distinguishing London, Ontario from London, England.
If you still think the model links on the various pages are unnecessary, then I challenge you to explain, in one short sentence, why for children a model is a toy train, for teenagers a model is a beautiful woman, for computer scientists a model is a set of semantic definitions, for mathematicians a model is a vector space, and for biologists a model is a laboratory fruitfly.
If you are able to meet this intellectual challenge and produce a short explanatory sentence, then I propose we can add your short explanatory sentence to all those pages where you have deleted the Model link.
I suspect however that you (and most younger Wikipedians, especially those who do not speak English as a first language) cannot meet this challenge because the conceptual foundation is unclear to you, unless you read the model page. Hoping for your cooperation (and thanks for implementing the present perfect tense grammar correction, by the way).109.146.228.155 (talk) 07:03, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for evaluating my age. Shall I feel flattered?
I will not venture into defining the term model – other Wikipedians have done it better than I ever would. However, this multitude of meanings is precisely the reason why the term needs not be linked to. As MOS:OL explains, the primary purpose of wikilinking is to clarify a possibly unclear term to the reader; not to confuse them with a multitude of meanings. If in your opinion these articles would benefit from a further clarification of the term model, a wikilink to Conceptual model feels more apt to me.
By the way, I suspect that you (like many of those who speak no other language than English) aren't fully getting that semiotics is well-developed also in languages other than English, and that the term model, itself a French loanword, may represent precisely the same meanings also in a number of other languages. — kashmīrīTALK10:31, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your praise. But please do not misrepresent my comment on age and language - I was referring to potential Wikipedia users, not to you. I agree to your solution - please go ahead and implement your new proposal of placing Conceptual model links in all the articles you have "vandalised" (i.e. where you have deleted Model links). It will be a bit of work, but it will prove that you are being sincere.
For anyone else reading this: please note that Kashmiri's comment on French counterparts of "model" is only half the story - anyone interested in the French and German linguistic aspect should consult the disambiguation page discussion on the Model talk page. It is a convoluted subject, which has still not been appropriately solved in Wikipedia/Wikidata due to technical problems.86.136.198.20 (talk) 13:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
I don't intend to prove anything to you, especially my sincerity. Please feel free to go ahead and add the links if compliant with MOS.
Re. the fact that languages are not 1:1 mirrors, I believe that anyone else reading this will be fully aware of it. That doesn't change the fact that the equivalent of the English term model can be found in many languages with a similar range of meanings.
By the way, it's better to avoid calling a good faith editor, a vandal, even jokingly, as it can be easily misunderstood by an admin. — kashmīrīTALK18:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
I have used reliable sources in my article and reliable sources have been used in all my explanations. And someone gives unacceptable reasons and wants to delete my article.
I want you to tell me what you think about my article.
Hello. Please revert your move per the second bullet point at the top of WP:RM. This title has been stable for nearly four months and should not be moved without discussion. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:58, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
I don't agree with your assessment of "stable" - the name that was in use for the preceding 20 months and has received wide support at two Talk discussions appears much more stable than your recent controversial version. Basically, you performed a move against consensus. That's not how we work collaboratively on Wikipedia. — kashmīrīTALK23:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, Kashmiri
I sent a couple of messages out. Yes, I've been called a Bronx redneck before, lol.
Bottom line, my point was to say that a fool gives a foolish statement. Example: Oppose Clearly not ready to be an admin. Sportsfan 1234
That rubbed me the wrong way. No explanation etc. BTW, Josh got me to join Wikipedia. I felt like a family member was being slapped in the face.
Yes, I may come across a bit rough, but I'm not out to bully anyone.
Just want to be on speaking terms with everyone here. Sorry for the confusion.
Bharatanatyam is also under WikiProject Visual arts and WikiProject Dance which may have different rules re. lead section and inclusion of original names, so the matter should be consulted with those projects first. Please feel free to go ahead – I regret I'm unable to dedicate much time to Wikipedia at the moment. — kashmīrīTALK21:51, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I'm trying to understand this revert. In what way does including the widely-disseminated name of the accused invidual violate BLPCRIME? I think this actually concerns WP:BLPNAME instead, actually. BLPNAME states When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed, such as in certain court cases or occupations, it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context. However, the name does seem to have been widely disseminated, and does not seem to have been intentionally concealed. Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:36, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
No, I specifically meant BLPCRIME, which states that Wikipedia cannot name people in any way whatsoever that would suggest any criminal wrongdoing on their part, unless they have been found guilty by a court of law. — kashmīrīTALK19:56, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello Dear,
I have seen that you have dishonored the ethical update where I have removed a dead-link and given the helpful relevant link which contribute to Wikipedia authenticity yet you have removed the link which has Ramcharit Manas authentic version PDF.
please explain me your concern and disagreement and also let me know if a dead-link is good for Wikipedia or an genuine attribute is good for Wikipedia.
Reagrds Anuj823 (talk) 14:15, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
I have very well noticed the subject, and no promotional link was given. I have just replaced the dead-link and given the Ramcharit Manas Pdf link to the source. its not a promotion. please do not try to enforce your monopoly on a platform like Wikipedia. Vandalism already made losses to the cause, pls don't be biased. Anuj823 (talk) 13:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Hey Anuj, don't give external PDF link. Article has sufficient mention of Ramayana and which then leads to Ramcharitmanas article. Its fine! `~ᴀɴᴋʀᴀᴊ ɢɪʀɪ🎇✨12:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
The Expendables 4 move review
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Rollback
This use of rollback was inappropriate. Please don't do it again. Your other edits in your compaign against Nupur Sanon (actress) and its creator were wrong (you should not presume that an article will be deleted just because you've tagged it), but at least they were accompanied by an edit summary.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
@Bbb23 The article looks like a recreation of Nupur Sanon, speedily deleted multiple times, by an account that suddenly got active 10 days ago. Recreation under a different title is simply an attempt to game the system. — kashmīrīTALK16:40, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
It's possible you're right, but you can't go about it in the manner you did. Two of your speedy tags were unwarranted. You can't WP:A10 an article based on a deleted article. The article was not in the least promotional, hence your WP:G11 was out of line. The WP:A7 had some merit but I was reluctant to delete it on that basis because it wasn't obvious enough to me. If you believe the subject is not sufficiently notable, use AfD.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
If you suspect sockpuppetry, the appropriate venue is WP:SPI. You don't submit CSD requests or oppose technical moves just because you have a hunch. That hunch needs to be backed up by checkuser evidence. Polyamorph (talk) 17:09, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
I know SPI quite well (with due respect, I spent there much more time than you), and I decided not to file a report as evidence was insufficient. However, I saw good evidence of an attempt to game the system, which I reacted to, even though for you it was only as an innocent technical move request. Just accept that our opinions may differ here. — kashmīrīTALK17:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
If you have evidence, submit it to SPI. Otherwise you cannot cast WP:ASPERSIONS. Your justification that the article is unambiguous promotion is simply untrue. You have an admin above telling you the same, some humility would not go amiss. Polyamorph (talk) 17:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Oh, I see. A single passing comment about SPI is a far cry from submitting CSD requests and opposing a user's technical moves because you have judged they are a sock. You did not need to respond to my comment there either. Polyamorph (talk) 12:01, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Why not being honest? I opposed not because they were a sock but because the article was repeatedly recreated after being regularly deleted as promotional. Oh, and mine was a passing mention while your entire comment was about casting an aspersion on a new account, so no point digging. — kashmīrīTALK12:26, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
You are the one digging here I'm afraid. I am not dishonest, I made a single comment about SPI, if you think that's some kind of gotcha then woohoo for you, but it doesn't detract from your earlier poor judgement, which you seem unable to accept. Anyway, goodbye. Polyamorph (talk) 12:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
So you right about the sock, congratulations? That still doesn't excuse the CSD or detract from anything me and @Bbb23: said. Please don't ping me again. Polyamorph (talk) 17:26, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
October 2023
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Abkhazia. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
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Additional links at the bottom of articles ("see also" section)
Kashmiri, what's the rule on listing additional links at the bottom of an article? Does it have to be by alphabetic order (completely useless) or by relevancy with the subject (practical and logical)?
@ICE77: The Manual of Style says, The section should be a bulleted list, sorted either logically (for example, by subject matter), chronologically, or alphabetically. (MOS:SEEALSO). It doesn't say that you put whatever subject you like at the start and have a different sorting for other items.
It's not about placing what I want at the top of the list. It's about placing at the top what is most relevant which is exactly what the rule says: "sorted either logically (for example, by subject matter)". I am sure everybody agrees that having "Bishops in the Catholic Church" on the first line and "List of popes" on the seventh line is pointless since alphabetic order is secondary to relevancy (logical). If there was a statistical way to track how many people click on the first or the seventh link I am sure what the result would be and that would prove the point. Nobody cares about alphabetic order and this is not my opinion. It's logical. It's practical.
For you, a chronological list of Catholic popes might be most important. But another reader might be more interested to read more about papal names, the pope in the Coptic Church, or go straight to the list of canonised popes. Please don't measure others by your own yardstick.
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I have one previous account which was blocked because at that time I dont know about rules for the South Asia articles set by the admins , now I randomly checked the articles in past I worked on & previously I was on an edit war with this editor in one article related with caste/surname so I am able to find this editor with his sources & links as I save them in my system in excel file. That's why I created this account as admins due to edit load some times left the sock puppet edits live. Hemraj108 (talk) 08:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
@Hemraj108 I suggest you read and follow WP:CLEANSTART. The community is very sensitive to people violating their blocks/bans, and some admins might block your account for the mere admission of editing in violation of your block. — kashmīrīTALK10:13, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
@Kashmiri I am glad & thanks for your guidance but I dont have access the previous account & I don't even remember the password. I read the WP:CLEANSTART it says a user can get a clean start when his account is not under any ban , now the problem is I I don't have access to that account I even don't know if the that account in currently on ban or not. In that case what should I do ? Do I have to mention this in my user page that it's my clean start & I dont have any other account except that one & I am no longer using that & avoid mistakes done by using that account (mostly adding of Raj Sources). As most of the time I just only do revert the edits to the admin versions , I am reading the rules for South Asia articles & I able to understand most of them they only thing left is WP :RS when I able to understand that than I will edit the articles related to the South Asia. Hemraj108 (talk) 11:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks , I checked that account it was 1 week ban & account creation was blocked so according to that , the ban was already lifted after one week. And this is my clean start so I don't want to mention the account name so that I can start with a clean slate. And again thank you for the guidance. Hemraj108 (talk) 12:54, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
@Hemraj108: you don't have to do this but you may want to inform a check user of your previous account (give them the name). That way, if anyone links you to the old account, you'll be ok. It's up to you whether you want to do that or not and you don't need to reply to this comment.RegentsPark (comment) 14:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Bhagat Parmanand
You are restoring a version which uses a self-published book[4] and "Singh, Dr.Rajkumar (January 2007). discussion. Mathura (Uttar Pradesh)- 281001: Sarang Prakashan, Sarang Vihar, Refinery Nagar. Page 124, whatever that is- any idea for sources.
The link you mentioned is of the book by Mohinder Pal Singh , originally from the University of Michigan not from the Sarang Prakashan & the older version have this link too. Hemraj108 (talk) 08:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Now if I can figure out which one! I agree with banrevert but I occasionally don't if I think reverting will make the article or whatever worse. Doug Wellertalk09:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Yep, same here, although I usually have no patience to analyse all edits of that prolific sockmaster. Thanks for taking a closer look at these articles. — kashmīrīTALK09:10, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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I'm not sure why these four reversions: [5][6][7][8] had to be performed separately. It just creates notification clutter on my end, and erasing the entire section would have been far easier on both of us. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 16:10, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
M Imtiaz, Apologies, but I know of no way of undoing them in one go. Wikipedia software doesn't seem to have such an option. True, I could have simply deleted your edit, but then policy-based undoing makes it slightly more legible in edit history. — kashmīrīTALK18:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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Question: Add requirement for encryption to article (Public recursive name server)
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_recursive_name_server&oldid=1190939004
As DNS requests in 2024/2024 should be encrypted for data protection reasons. All common browsers already support DNS over HTTPS (DoH). Possible note: "This list only includes DNS resolvers that support encryption so that requests from third parties are not visible."
OK. Thank you very much. But there are lists of public DNS resolvers with thousands of entries. So what are the requirements for inclusion in the list? Shouldn't it be more restrictive, otherwise it's just a small selection of many. Is a wiki entry enough? Or how about adding a second title for unencrypted resolvers?
For example, NextDNS and others are currently used a lot with browsers and are no longer on the list. There used to be a wiki entry, which was then deleted. They are offered for selection in the settings (Secure DNS) of major browsers, e.g. Chrome/Firefox ... (depending on region), so I think they belong in this list, but some don't have a wiki entry.
Would a "notable DNS resolver" be one where there are multiple references from the operator + e.g. browser manufacturer?
2001:8E0:2064:BF00:DAD0:8DA0:1DDA:640B, The ones Mozilla/Google listed are companies with whom they have contractual agreements. That acknowledgement doesn't necessarily mean that these companies or their products are notable for an encyclopaedia. Sure, WP editors can agree to amend the criteria and for example include all the resolvers endorsed by major browsers. You can propose this on Talk there if you wish. It's important for the criteria to be objective, and not of the type "I don't like a particular resolver's specs". — kashmīrīTALK01:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Thanks.
But what about the second (sub)title with the unencrypted ones?
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As explained in an edit summary: it's standard to have the full text pf a psalm in two (and no more) languages, Hebrew and English in the King James Version. This was discussed at Talk:Psalms, - if you don't agree discuss there, please. I suggest that you restore where you removed Hebrew, and add where it's missing if you are able. Psalm 119 is the only exception because it's so long. - Happy New Year! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Thanks. I could not find such a discussion there – could you share a more precise link? Also, not sure whether that Talk page would be an appropriate venue for such a discussion – it should normally be held at relevant WikiProject.
In any case, this is English Wikipedia and there will be valid questions re. including extensive non-English passages. Cheers, — kashmīrīTALK15:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Thank you
Hi kashmiri - thank you very much for noting that I misread RTH's !vote; I replied to you at the RfA and updated my vote comment. I am also writing here because I want to emphasize that I had already attempted to strongly reject the insinuation that seems to be being made, and I continued to do so in my follow-up comment to you. Thank you again for your participation and for calling me out on this. Beccaynr (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Beccaynr, mistakes happen, no bad feelings mate. I admit I was a tad too harsh towards you. It's just my growing frustration with the fact that instead of focusing on candidates' skills and content creation, editors focus on their political views or morals, starting from the infamous desire to automatically desysop admins who supported a major US political party [9] to attacking a candidate for not condemning an East German security agency [10]. Big thanks for making your intentions clear. Cheers, — kashmīrīTALK20:10, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, and from my view, your response to me was pitch perfect, because it effectively called my attention to the ongoing need to clarify my comments to correct my mistake and to help prevent misunderstanding. You, AmandaNP, and other editors are absolutely correct to be very concerned about the unfair and inappropriate assumptions that could be drawn; that I inaccurately presented the !vote and then an unfair and inappropriate insinuation was made by another editor seems to emphasize my own carelessness and poor judgment when deciding to include the example. I appreciate you sharply calling my attention to my mistake and the impact my mistake seems to have had on the discussion. Beccaynr (talk) 21:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
You've been mentioned (not accused) at administrators' noticeboard
Hi Kashmiri, I was surprised by this post. I understand the sentiment, but that was a couple months old obviously throwaway post, replying in such a way seems more likely to somehow make it a discussion that anything else. CMD (talk) 01:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
True, I could have removed the post as it violated WP:TPG (the OP didn't attempt to discuss improving the article). What other reaction would you have for an editor who just drives by to posts their political beliefs and cheap propaganda ("civilized part of the world", etc.)? Engaging in a discussion? Given we already have 10 archived pages of discussions, I doubt any long-standing editor has an appetite to waste time on rehashing old arguments about Abkhazia's sovereignty and/or the lack of it. — kashmīrīTALK09:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
While I undoubtedly have sometimes removed egregious cases per WP:TPG, I find it is good practice to leave them be. This was not a regular editor, it was a one-off moment of someone posting their thoughts into what can easily appear to the unfamiliar to be a forum. In the Wikipedia talkpage case, necroing threads also makes them hang around for longer before being archived. CMD (talk) 01:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
In reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_Raksha_Stotra, I see you removed text . I cannot imagine what issue can there be if the text stays there. Can you please explain why you think that the hymns should go. What is your expertise on the subject matter? This is your chance before I report it for Vandalism. ShekonTekon (talk) 14:14, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
@Manifestation, It's a tricky matter, as ICD-11 classifies MNDs differently than the sources used for our article. Given that I fail to understand the rationale behind this rather unusual approach of ICD-11, I'm afraid I can't be of much help here. Just add whatever you feel will work best. I might email the WHO working group in spare time. — kashmīrīTALK23:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
@Kashmiri: If you could email the working group about this, please do! I agree that the current structure is strange. Also, the description of the "Motor neuron diseases or related disorders" group states that they consist of genetic disorders. However, it also contains Post polio progressive muscular atrophy (8B62), which is of course part of post-polio syndrome. This is not a genetic disorder, but a post-viral disease. Cheers, Manifestation (talk)15:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Possibly improper redirect suppression after page move
Could you explain this edit? Seems you suppressed the leftover redirect for no reason that is permitted per the reasons listed in WP:PAGEMOVER, especially since the article was at the former title Sankalpa (film-architecture) for about 5 years. Either way, I have recreated the redirect since I am
assuming you suppressed the leftover redirect in error. Steel1943 (talk) 17:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
@Steel1943 I consider the previous title a misomer – Sankalpa is not a term belonging to architecture, nor it is a name of a film. Correctly, the subject should have been disambiguated as Sankalpa (art installation). For this reason, I suppresed the redirect, of course after making sure that it's delinked from elsewhere on Wikipedia.
Feel free to nominate it separately for WP:RFD then. Looking at it like that, the only applicable WP:CSD criterion I can think of for what you did would be WP:R3, but that wouldn't be valid since the redirect was a valid ((R from move)) due to being at that title for almost 5 years. (If you open a discussion, I probably won't participate in it but ... what the heck is a "film-architecture"? Article/redirect doesn't exist, the phrase may be WP:MADEUPWP:NEO.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Completely agree! I don't feel like going through a discussion about this redirect, so let it stay, maybe someone with more free time on their hands will feel like nominating it. — kashmīrīTALK19:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
This edit is plainly uncivil; dredging up a years-old ANI thread to personally attack an editor in a talk page discussion does not contribute towards the substance of the discussion. I would strongly encourage you to strike it. — Red-tailed hawk(nest)18:19, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, I linked to the wrong ANI thread. I recall he was at ANI for battleground behaviour, and linked to whatever came up first in ANI search results. It was only yesterday that I realised the guy had been dragged to ANI more than once and that I had linked to the wrong thread. I'll update the thread. Cheers, — kashmīrīTALK19:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Reform UK
Why do you close the discussion? If we were still arguing. It seems disrespectful to me that you cut off my speech. Because there were enough references to say that it is a far-right party and you don't want to accept it. You can't end a discussion like that. Monito rapido (talk) 15:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
WP:TIMESINK. It's enough. You tried to present the sources you have, editors explained to you that the sources are poor or simply don't say what you claim. You are essentially wasting other peoples' time. — kashmīrīTALK15:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Page move without discussion
Within the past few hours, you and two other editors have renamed Sexual and gender-based violence in the 7 October attack on Israel wtihout even attempting to get a consensus. There needs to be Requested Move discussion. Please self-revert back to Sexual and gender-based violence in the 7 October attack on Israel if it has not already been done. Coretheapple (talk) 16:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
I am not comfortable, from a technical standpoint, moving a page that has been moved thrice already, and I think also that a self-revert is more appropriate in a controversial topic. Coretheapple (talk) 16:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Well, @Eladkarmel move the page again, but not to its original title (despite claiming so). The original title was indeed incorrect, but not so much because of the date but because the article's subject isn't gender-based violence. It's getting a mess now. — kashmīrīTALK16:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I see. I think the way you've phrased it is potentially confusing. Your first diff in point 3 of your post is Nihonjoe's answer to my question, and then you mention a "further challenge" from me. As far as I can tell, the comment from Nihonjoe beginning "After reviewing the dates..." was not a response to anyone in particular. Perhaps you could change your post to read "Then he refused to say whether he had a COI when editing them, and only later conceded that he had edited them while being employed." Sorry to nitpick; it's just that I only asked the guy a question, I don't want it to seem like I was running a campaign. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 16:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Me neither, I'm not campaigning against Nihonjoe. He is definitely a huge net positive. In fact, I gently suggested it to him to address it early, own up to it. I showed to him that his position is untenable. I hoped he'll realise it, apologise, perhaps write something about rules being different back then, and submit his crat bit to regain community trust. That would have been it. But no, his denial is now going to cost him not only the crat bit but likely adminship; generate a permanent record of his transgressions; undermine the trust of a much larger proportion of the community; and have Arbcom scrutinising him using off-wiki evidence. Sad. — kashmīrīTALK17:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
AI upscaling
Just to let you know that AI upscaling is against MOS:IMAGES, on the English Wikipedia (AI upscaling software should generally not be used to increase the resolution or quality of an old or low-resolution image). If all we have is a slightly blurry image, it's better to be up front with the reader about that. Belbury (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
@Belbury Thank you. I agree in principle, although I doubt whether that particular image is of a historical value. I'll try to clean it up without upscaling.
On a side note, the question of using AI software is more complex. For instance, denoising – a perfectly acceptable type of edit – modifies the colour of selected pixels identified as noise based on neighbouring pixels. With AI support, that colour matching is content specific, in that the software tries to identify the object type and the expected texture, and adjusts colour homogeneity accordingly.
Since the guideline say nothing about AI-assisted editing, is there any consensus regarding such use of graphics software? — kashmīrīTALK18:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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I was not at all malicious as his fellow crat Primefac accused me... Genuinely curious, where/when did I do this? I honestly do not remember making any comment towards you or your editing. Primefac (talk) 15:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
@Primefac: I'm really sorry, please accept my apology. My poor excuse: I wrote from memory as I did not follow the ANI thread after I was branded by another editor as "some smart and mean-spirited person out there"[11]. I've now crossed out your name there. Cheers, — kashmīrīTALK16:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
No worries, just wanted to make sure I wasn't reaching the point of senility where I didn't remember insulting someone! Primefac (talk) 16:43, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Have a look at these changes. Apart from the changes to the lead (new addition 'kingdom' and dynasty), the source used to add the caste is RAJ Era, not to mention the source only mentions Brahmin. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Yeah. I'm tired of IPs and new accounts pushing in Bhumihars everywhere, as if it was sooo important for the content. It's mostly socking I believe (Prince Of Roblox for instance))), although not always easily detectable. For now, I mostly revert such additions – feel free to do likewise. — kashmīrīTALK11:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
I have Removed the Raj era source and mentioned another source which clearly mentions the added info , btw i'm not socking and now pls don't cite any other reason to revert my edit i just want some clear info to be written around Bhumihars. Aditya Prakash-080 (talk) 08:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
RSS article
Hi kashmiri,
I note that you have contributed to discourse in a constructive and positive way at Talk:Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in the past. I'd like to bring to your attention two recent discussions where we would benefit from your feedback.
The first, which discusses whether the lead should refer to the RSS as "far-right" or merely "right".
The second, regarding a proposed edit to remove the claim that the RSS was inspired by European Fascist movements from the article.
Even though you are clearly an involved editor, an active participant in discussions in Talk:Sexual and gender-based violence in the 7 October attack on Israel, you closed an RfC on whether Hamas denials of sexual assaults should be in the lead section, finding that the denial should not be included. [12]. One minute later[13] you sought to avoid scrutiny of this completely improper close by archiving it. [14]. This is tendentious and disruptive, especially in a contentious topic area subject to Arbcom restrictions. Please revert your action, restore the RfC, and remove your "close" and your "closing comments." Coretheapple (talk) 18:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
You closed an RfC despite being clearly involved, and then one minute later archived it. That's not nice either. But thank you for reverting your close. Coretheapple (talk) 19:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Yes, and I was removing spam links from other posts before archiving, too. It's called "preparing content for archiving". As I wrote, I mistook the RfC for stale, since it's been hanging there for 10 weeks and the article content since changed multiple times. — kashmīrīTALK19:21, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
It's not a good idea to archive RfCs immediately, even in far less contentious topic areas. Editors can restore RfCs if they want further comment, and they can't do that if archived immediately. They can't do that if the RfC vanishes right after close. What you did made it impossible for editors to even read your close. Editors need to be able to do that, don't you agree? Coretheapple (talk) 19:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
As I wrote, I mistook this as stale, no comment for weeks, and thus no longer actionable in any manner. I restored it immediately after I saw your message. — kashmīrīTALK19:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
The last !vote was March 3 and there was an active discussion and other !votes at the end of February in the "Survey" section. Since you closed this discussion and based your closing comments on the Survey, I don't see how you can possibly be saying that the discussion was "stale" and that there were "no comments for weeks." The Survey section was quite active, I'm sure you would agree. Coretheapple (talk) 20:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
I think it was reasonable to deem the RfC as stale and to close it, but I don't see how immediately archiving after the closure could be considered appropriate. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
The last comment was March 3rd but the most recent comment before that was a whole week prior. Only today after these close attempts has it reignited. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 22:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Also, I realize I kind of just jumped into this discussion though it doesn't exactly concern me. Not sure if that's okay or not or if frowned upon. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 22:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Not sure what you mean but I agree, we should not be discussing this further on Kashmiri's talk page unless he consents further. This is true! Apologies to Kashmiri. Coretheapple (talk) 22:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Just for future reference, WP:RM#CM says Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative.
Aside from the issues with the RM's potentially producing competing results, I believe there may be technical issues with User:RMCD bot. BilledMammal (talk) 09:47, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via: