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I looked over the sources cited at Mongol raids in Palestine for the alleged conquest of Jerusalem in 1300, and the only historian I see there cited as disagreeing is Schein in her Gesta Dei per Mongolos. So I read it. It is not clear to me at all that she denies the Mongols held Jerusalem. There is one non-European contemporary source for it. It is, all in all, completely unexceptional. A large, powerful army invaded a rather weakly-defended territory belong to its chief enemy and had control of it for some four months or so, including the strategically unimportant, but religiously significant, city of Jerusalem. Schein highlights how much Christendom could, in a Jubilee year especially, magnify such a non-event into a miraculous turning point in their fortunes. So can you cite a historian who denies explicitly that the Mongols had control of Jerusalem? I think the sources we have cited say that they did. And it is not a big deal. Certainly their brief running-over of Palestine represents nothing objective in connexion with Europe, only subjectively in those fourteenth-century imaginations. Srnec (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
If you ever read your colleagues asking this question, I hope you will not just recall what happened at AE, but remember to refer them to what happened here (textbook wikihounding). Ncmvocalist (talk) 18:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Dear Elonka. You have absolutely no right to ask me that [2]. This is totally out of place. No article can be your exclusive domain. This is also completely unfair if you look at the quality of the contributions I am making to this article and its talk page (online sources, balancing). Best regards. Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 20:34, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
You wrote: "In the early 1400s, Mongol relations with Europe again became friendly, this time with the Timurid dynasty, under Timur (Tamerlane), who was attempting to form an alliance against both the Mongol Mamluks and the Ottoman Empire" [7] Mongol Mamluks?? This can't be right I'm afraid. Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 18:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I just looked at Greeks in pre-Roman Gaul and was rather shocked about the manipulation of sources. There are good sources for the ancient history and archaeology of Marseille, but these are not used in the article (particularly French sources). The statement about Glanum, a Celto-Ligurian settlement taking its name from a Celtic god, is quite misleading and counts as original research. PHG inserted images in the article on Marseille (which he insists on spelling Marseilles) with captions which already indicated that he was pushing another one of his unsupported theories about contacts between different areas/cultures. The images had very little to do with the article (one map was already present in the gallery). I noted that you were filing a RfE, because your Work1 page is still seemingly on my watchlist. My objection to PHG's editing is that he is pushing what might be speculative footnotes as significant parts of a main article, where the sources do not discuss the particular point in any detail. "Greeks in pre-Roman Gaul" is deeply problematic, because of the superficial use of sources. PHG has failed to locate the main sources and has written information which seems misleading and possibly self-invented. It was only just recently that I worked out why PHG was editing Marseille. I would support your one-year extension of a ban on medieval and ancient history. I would also probably suggest that the article on Greeks in pre-Roman Gaul be deleted, because it's so badly sourced and researched. I haven't had time to look at anything else at the moment, but I would suggest you broaden your RfE to include this as an example of WP:OR and cherrypicking in ancient history. Mathsci (talk) 09:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Comment There are multiple texts on the well-trodden theme of Celtic Gaul and its hellenization, particularly in Provence. For example Anthony King's UC Berkeley book on Roman Gaul has a long discussion on the Celts and the Greeks, on hellenization and the role of Massilia. The books of Charles Ebel are other examples where there is a prolonged account over many pages. This is valuable content which could be summarised in an article on pre-Roman Gaul. The key word is hellenization. This affected language, but not local Celtic deities, buildings, but not necessarily Celtic measurements, trade, etc, etc. The true picture is complex and described in detail in these sources. My main point is that almost all of this material is absent from the article at present. Hence my comments. Mathsci (talk) 17:17, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Elonka! Among your numerous edits to the Franco-Mongol alliance article, I took good note that you now write that the Mongols "probably" raided Jerusalem in 1300! [14]. Before this seminal event, User:Srnec painstakingly studied the sources himself and strongly challenged your former interpretation, declaring that "the modern, reliable sources say unequivocally that the Mongols were in Jerusalem" [15]. After pursuing me so harshly for so long for writing about the Mongols and Jerusalem in 1300, this is quite a change isn’t it? I think a small word of apology for getting the facts wrong, and accusing me unduely, would be in order don’t you think? Best regards Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 17:03, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Roddy Stauner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Randy Stauner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) would appear to me to be clear sockpuppets of Dick Stauner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who you blocked, could you possibly block these two new ones? Thank you. O Fenian (talk) 01:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Sent last week. I wondered if you recieved it. Thanks. Ward20 (talk) 07:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Without commenting on the merits or otherwise of PHG's edits and your criticisms of them, I am disturbed by some of your actions in pursuing this case. This is bordering on canvassing whereas this is quite unacceptable -- an article talk page is for improving that article, not a place to comment or solicit or collect comments on the perceived inadequacies of another editor. Rhomb (talk) 21:26, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Yet another new editor has suddenly chimed in on Talk: Mar Thoma Church with a series of vituperative personal attacks based solely upon good faith disagreements. See [18], [19], [20], [21], and my request here [22]. Any assistance you can offer would be helpful. Tb (talk) 01:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
It was suggested that you might be interested in this. (Posted February 14, 2010, in case it rolls off into the archive.) 58.147.58.28 (talk) 00:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Elonka, I saw you on the list of participants, but I never saw you there. Oh well. My paper went pretty well, but people came out caring as little about Wikipedia as they did coming in, which I guess is to be expected. Adam Bishop (talk) 04:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
You propose here that only modern sources, say fifty years or less, can be reliable. Is this your personal view, a Wikipedia guideline or a policy? Or is it a specific restriction on that article which you are imposing under some specific authorisation? Rhomb (talk) 07:20, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello Elonka. I'd like to get Suleyman I of Rûm moved to Suleyman/Suleiman/Sulaiman/Sulayman bin/ibn Kutalimis/Kutalmish (and probably I am missing some variants). But I still don't have any of my pre-Ottoman history books with me here, so I am struggling over the orthography, and more importantly, the "right" orthography to match the current contents of Category:Seljuk Sultans of Rûm. Can you help me out? Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
User:66.178.154.21 has a track record of offensive vandalism. I'm not sure of the procedure, but this guy seems like he criteria for blocking or some similar treatment.
Is there a convenient way to undo all his edits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wcoole (talk • contribs) 04:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
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Someone has recently amended the above article, written by me a few months back, to stick accents on Hue to give it its Vietnamese orthography. The same sort of thing happened a few months back with my articles on the Cochinchina campaign, and I resolved the issue by glossing the English spelling of Vietnamese place names with the Vietnamese spelling in brackets afterwards. The Hue edit is no big deal, of course, but I'd like to adopt a consistent policy on Vietnamese nomenclature, and would be interested to know where I stand. Surely we should be using the most commonly-used English versions of place names, as this is an English-language encyclopedia. Yes? No?
The criterion 'commonly-used', if I am right, also has implications for the Nestorian articles. We should be using Timothy for the patriarch of that name, not Timoteos or Timotaos or whatever barbarous vocable they use in Assyrian.
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Howdy Elonka. Would you consider moderating? GoodDay (talk) 01:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
FYI: I took on the GA review for Franco-Mongol alliance. I'm still reading through all the prose but I've already noted a number of things that should be fixed. It appears to me that if those (and perhaps a few others small things) are fixed that it should pass.
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Elonka, you dealt a few months ago with a disruptive IP editor who was frequently changing IPs ([23]), uncovered a sock farm (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Troubles/Archive) and eventually blocked the IP for three months (which he promptly evaded). He is back and still causing problems. I've proposed a permanent site ban on this individual; please see WP:AN/I#Enough is enough: proposal to ban 99.142.1.101. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
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FYI: I'll try to go over the article again this weekend. Thanks for all the hard work.
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My apologies, but the number of Admin's who have gone the distance with Irvine22 are view and far between. You boxed him into the corner on the Troubles issues so he went silent for a few months but has now emerged again taking a very similar approach on Wales and UK articles in general. This has included editor waring and his normal vein of seemingly innocent comments etc. Its also involved him in disruptive edit waring on my own article Dave Snowden. Given that it takes time for new Admins who get involved to understand what they are dealing with (the reason I think he goes silent then emerges elsewhere) is is possible that you could take a look at the talk page of WP:UKPLACE where I have raised the content issue. The pages involved are David Lloyd George, Harold Wilson, Margaret Thatcher, John Major, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. --Snowded TALK 07:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Gerhard von Stauner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), thank you. O Fenian (talk) 01:10, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
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Donald J. Kagay distinguishes between the alliance and its outcome too, and explains that an alliance was hammered out, but that it bore little fruits. He mentions a "Papal-Mongol accomodation" (Crusaders, condottieri, and cannon Donald J. Kagay p.151). He explains that "the Ilkhanate alliance with Rome was extended to Jaume I of Aragon and Edward I of England (p.153), but that the negotiations "accomplished very little" (p.153). The alliance began to unravel in 1275 with the death of Bohemond VI (p.154). He further writes that "despite the alliance hammered out at Lyons, the Mongols never engaged in joint operations with the Franks" (p.154). In 1280 "only a contingent of Hospitallers fought alongside the (Mongol) invaders" (p.154). Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 19:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
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I have made a number of attempts to have the article title changed to no avail. When this war first started it was limited to South Ossetia and as such the title was legitimate. The moment it expanded beyond South Ossetia and into Abkhazia and the west coast a number of editors began suggesting the name be changed to reflect the scope of the conflict. At the time there was no clear alternative name and it was subject to such constant edit-warring that the article was move-protected. Since then the only recourse has been to have discussions on the title in the hopes of reaching of a consensus. Unfortunately, no matter how much time passes and how much stronger the case for a change gets a group of editors with an extremely biased position always flood the discussions to prevent a change.
In the most recent discussion I started on the current talk page one editor supportive of a change decided it was a lost cause because he felt any discussion would see a number of pro-Russian editors flood the discussion and prevent a consensus from being seen. So far it seems the only way this title is ever going to be changed is by an admin's decision. I gave a decent summary of the arguments for a change a few months ago here, more importantly it contains the most recent arguments for keeping, and this earlier discussion showed strong support for a change, though there was some funny business done with the discussion by a non-admin. The admin reviewing it did however say that objections based on neutrality were invalid and only left the issue of descriptiveness and common name as no consensus. However, I do not see any legitimate argument for keeping this article and plenty for changing it. This is something I am sending to a few admins who appear to have no involvement in the article or the name dispute in the hopes of getting some authoritative position on the current title. If you can think of any admins who might be more interested in this then feel free to say--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 15:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Elonka. I have heard of your excellent work in dealing with articles related to The Troubles. I haven't corresponded with you directly before and I was hoping you could review the following diffs regarding a point of contention over the use of the heavily POV term "martyrs" in a non-quotation context and give me your opinion. Thanks.
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I have archived the MILHIST peer review that you have initiated for this article. I do have a suggestion for you since you mentioned wanting to take the article to FAC after the review. Instead of making the jump direct to FAC, why not try our A-Class review before. Many editors have been pleasantly surprised to see how much easier FAC is for MILHIST articles if they go through our ACR first. -MBK004 05:10, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I think you might be interested [29]. Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 19:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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It is getting more out of hand. I have just been given a punitive audit where over 50 images I uploaded are being threatened with deletion by User:Treasurytag. See: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. Is it wikistalking to give a punitive audit. During Watergate Nixon gave punitive audits from the IRS to people on his enemies list and that one of the reasons for his impeachment. If this isn't a punitive audit, I don't know what is: User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Punitive audit --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 19:30, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
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Elonka, given our past interactions I don't think it is appropriate for you to intervene like this. You are too involved, you have too much of a conflict of interest and you have been asked in the past by other administrators to steer clear and let other admins deal with issues concerning me. With the best will in the world it is not possible for you to act, or be seen to act, neutrally - and I do not consider you neutral. Please consider this request. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:05, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Elonka, concerning this, am I as a non-admin allowed to notify another user with the P/I notification template and log the notification? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, Elonka. I know you have played a major role in articles and debates relatign to the Irish Troubles. Regarding Peter Hart (historian), as per this diff, you will see that User:RepublicanJacobite rv wholesale my edit, at least once as of this writing, while refusing to provide any reason or justification. I do not wish to get into an edit war with this individual, so I would greatly appreciate some assistance. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 21:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hey elonka, could you please notify user Chesdovi of ARBPIA and then log it?
His behavior at the Golan heights article is far from acceptable. He first repeatedly removed a quote when there was no consensus at the talkpage to remove it. His "summary" did not follow the source and twisted what the source said:[30] He also added that "which according to independent historians were of doubtful historical accuracy" when the source clearly did not say that:[31]
You can clearly see from the entire Dayan quote interview that its about that Moshe Dayan saying that Israel provoked Syria. After having repeatedly removed this he then cherry picks that 1% of the quote he personally likes and puts it in large quotations:[32] clearly out of context, really twists the entire meaning of that interview.
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Hi Elonka, it's been awhile. I just felt you should know I mentioned you in an arbitration case here. A question was asked if there was any administrators using their real name who are notable enough to have their own article. I could only think of you and your notability. I hope this is ok to make mention, if a problem please pop over to my talk page and I will remove it or you can. Thanks, be well, --CrohnieGalTalk 11:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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My argument still stands. You can tell me those awards are notable all you like, but where the frak are the secondary sources? I'm not seeing a single one. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 20:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Elonka. Could you be more specific when you state that "there is no support for the theories presented in your sandbox page" [35]. The sandbox article in question (User:Per Honor et Gloria/Sandbox/Mongol occupation of Jerusalem) uses mainly online, checkable, references, foremost of which is Reuven Amitai who concludes the subject in 2007: "The Mongol forces rode as far as Gaza, looting and killing as they went, and they entered several towns, including Jerusalem" [36]. "Finally, it is quite clear that the Mongols did enter, and terrorize, Jerusalem" [37]. Other users who researched the subject seriously, such as User:Srnec, have strongly challenged your past interpretations of the subject, saying that "the modern, reliable sources say unequivocally that the Mongols were in Jerusalem" [38]. Do you have issues with specific facts, the wording, or something else? Maybe we can discuss constructively to find common ground? Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 02:32, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Elonka, if you check the history (such as Harej's talkpage archive), I think you will find that the "Messedrocker" name was being misused by a serial vandal after the original Messedrocker changed his username to Harej. (This became a frequently problem with renames around that time.) I fear that the current wording of your guide leaves the misimpression that Harej himself was misusing multiple accounts, which was not the case; I would ask you to consider rephrasing. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Elonka, given the concerns about the representation of Harej and Chase me's prior accounts in your guide that have been voiced on your guide's talkpage, I've temporarily suspending it's listing in the main template. Could you take a look and clarify that neither of the candidates are responsible for the misconduct by those who took over their former usernames? Fwiw, I initially made the same mistakes in the election guide, since corrected. Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience, Skomorokh 12:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)