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Hey, it doesn't look like the format at the page allows for responses or counter-proposals so I have to track you down here. I agree it would be problematic if there are more jerks on one side of a POV (to put it in layperson's terms :-)). A solution might be that admins make sure that they have the same action-taking ratio as other admins. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Elonka. Could you do me the courtesy of glancing at the Israel Shahak page shortly? I have been warned I am edit-warring, by NoCal, and that he is minded to call for an administrative rebuke if I persist. I don't know how he defines 'edit-warring', and have asked him to present the evidence immediately, so that you may make a call on his charge. Thanks Nishidani (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Elonka, as bizarre as it may seem, the Self-hating Jew article has become an Israel/Palestine battleground article. Would it be possible for you make your presence known, to lessen the possibility of another edit war there. I got burned over that previously, and a more orderly situation would be a help. I just had a sourced edit reverted, and I would like to avoid previous problems. Thanks. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
A thread which may concern you has been started here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Admin abuse of tools. best, –xeno (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka. I discovered that Meteormaker has again removed the term from the Israeli settlement article, despite the previous agreement.[1] He's also been edit-warring over the term on a number of other articles (e.g. [2],[3], [4]). I've restored it as cited fact, per previous discussions, but I'd appreciate it if you could keep an eye on this, as I suspect he'll try to edit-war it out again. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 00:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I believe you have just imposed a 90-day restriction on MM, which enjoins him from "removing reliable citations" in any article under the scope of the I-P conflict. You placed this restriction at 17:04, 14 February 2009, and at 23:17, 14 February 2009 , he removed a reliably sourced quote from Zionist entity. It should also be noted that while you had narrowly worded the other restriction as related to any "Samaria" edits, MM has been on a similar crusade to remove not just "Samaria", but its counter part, "Judea", from numerous articles - which he is still doing: [7] It's time for tougher sanctions. NoCal100 (talk) 00:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
MeteorMaker, thanks for your messages, let me try to explain the wiki-philosophy here. My apologies for the length of this post, but I'm going to try and be as thorough as possible, for both you and the other editors who are watching the discussion:
First, let me be clear that I have no opinion on whether or not Samaria or Judea or biblical or any of these terms do or don't appear in any of the articles. Whether we end up with the terms in the articles or out of the articles, I really have no preference. What my goal is, as an administrator, is to enforce policies, and to reduce disruption to the project. In most cases around the encyclopedia, this is fairly straightforward. For example, we'll have one longterm editor inserting information from reliable sources, and we'll have another editor deleting entire paragraphs and replacing them with, "This is wrong." So we revert the latter editor and instruct them about policies and dispute resolution, and if they continue disrupting without backing up their arguments, we block them, and life in the rest of the project goes on. :)
In some areas though, especially Israel/Palestine, the disputes are much more complex, so administrators have to be a bit more creative. For example, this "Samaria" issue, which has been going on for a long time now. From my ("I don't care") point of view, there's one group of editors who say "Include" and another group of editors who say "Don't include," and this has been going on for awhile. I know that there are claims of Pro-Israel Anti-Israel Pro-Palestine Anti-Palestine yadayada, but again, administrators aren't going to care too much about that. What we do care about, is policies, especially WP:V and WP:UNDUE and WP:DR.
To give a more specific example: When editor A puts something into an article with reliable sources, and editor B removes the information and/or the sources, and absent any other input from other editors, the administrators are (usually) going to support editor A, and editor B is going to be encouraged to follow other steps in dispute resolution. There are exceptions to this, such as when dealing with biographies of living people. With BLPs, the burden of proof swaps around, and it's the responsibility of the editor wanting to include the information (especially if it's negative), to prove that it's well-sourced and appropriate in someone's bio, before it can be allowed to stick.
Getting away from biographies though and back to geography: we have editor A with sources, and editor B who says that the information (and sources) are giving undue weight to a particular concept. What editor B should now do is follow WP:DR: They can try rewriting the article to find a compromise, where editor A's information is included, but editor B can add their own (sourced) information as a counterpoint, or rework the wording of editor A's addition. Or, editor B can start a thread at the article's talkpage, and either find a compromise there with editor A, or start inviting other editors in, per an RfC or notices at a WikiProject or noticeboard. If the information which was added by editor A is a genuine problem, or a clear violation of WP:UNDUE, other editors will see it for what it is, the consensus will be clear, and the information and/or sources can come out of the article. If the consensus is not clear, try inviting more editors, or try mediation.
If things remain deadlocked, the tiebreaker may still be made by the sources. Not by quantity of sources, but by the existence of the sources, and the opinions of editors on how to interpret those sources. If there are 10 reliable sources saying "blue", and 30 reliable sources saying "red", and one group of editors says, "The article should say 'blue'", and another group of editors says, "You guys are insane, the article should obviously say 'red'", then the administrators are going to look at the situation, and if there's no clear consensus, the decision is probably going to be, "The article should say both blue and red, in proper proportion to how the topic is presented in reliable sources". So applying this to Samaria, it means (as I'm interpreting the discussions thus far), that the term can be used in the articles, as long as it is properly attributed and placed in the proper proportion. At Israeli settlement, this seemed to boil down to a compromise of, "Samaria can be mentioned in the article, but shouldn't be in the lead."
As for why you were banned and others weren't, please don't take this as an indication that no one else will ever be banned. Sometimes multiple bans are issued each day, sometimes one ban at a time, sometimes they're staggered out over a week, it really depends. I have to be careful what I say because I don't want to inflame the situation, but it's reasonable to assume that I (and other administrators) are observing the behavior of several editors in this dispute, and may institute other bans. To see who's at risk, look at WP:ARBPIA, check the names in the "notified" list, and also review the history of the talkpages of other editors in this dispute. If I or another administrator has warned/nudged/cautioned them, it means that editor's behavior is being watched.
Ultimately the Samaria dispute seems to come down to this: One group of editors wants the Samaria term in the article. Another group doesn't. There are sources both ways. There is no clear consensus among the editors as to how things should be handled. RfCs have not brought clarity to the issue. The community of wider editors doesn't care. The public doesn't seem to care too much either (otherwise we'd get a stream of outraged anonymous messages on the talkpage). So if there's no consensus, and no one else seems to care, let it go. It's not worth this much angst, over how to word one sentence on a much longer article. You may also wish to review Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars, for examples of other places around the project where editors spent way too much time quibbling over very minor points. We've got a huge encyclopedia here, with thousands of new articles flowing in every day. There's lots of work that needs to be done. So on this "Samaria" question, we talk it over, we flip a coin, if nothing's clear, we put a pin in it and move on to other debates. Editors that don't seem able to let things go, especially when they're not working on anything else on the project, are probably going to be asked to leave.
Another measuring stick that administrators use, is looking at the editing history of each editor. If there's one editor who has created multiple articles, who is constantly arguing with another editor who's never created a single article, the "writing" editor will often receive better backup from the administrators, to allow them to get back to building the encyclopedia, while the "arguing" editor may simply be removed from the equation. It doesn't mean that their arguments were necessarily bad. But if their arguments were presented, they've made their case, the options have been considered, and the decision went against their arguments (or there's no consensus), the community expectation is that the arguing editor should let things go and move on to other projects. Now don't get me wrong, consensus can change, so it may be worth re-opening the discussion several months down the line. But sometimes we just have to say, "This is the way the articles are going to be written for awhile," and shoo people away from the discussion to encourage them to work on other things.
Does that help explain the wiki-subtleties at all? For your own purposes, if you'd like to have a stronger voice in discussions: Stop worrying about the Samaria question for awhile. Work on other articles, or even better, expand or create other articles. Having a userpage isn't just for personal information about you, but for information about what you've worked on. Look at other editors' userpages, and you'll see that we talk about the articles and topic areas where we work, and we usually proudly banner the articles that we've helped to promote to a state of higher quality. To do this yourself, pick an article that's in so-so shape, and improve it to good article or featured article status. Or if your talents are more in "article review" than "article creation", help out at WP:GAN, and you'll see there's a backlog of articles where reviews have been requested. You could be a decisionmaker on whether or not nominated articles should be promoted. This kind of work would be extremely helpful to the encyclopedia, and would have the added bonus of giving you recognizable accomplishments that you could place on your userpage. Which would give you a much stronger voice in any article discussions where you choose to participate. --Elonka 17:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Elonka, have you decided to remove the restriction placed on MM, that prevents him from removing material that is reliably sourced? As I pointed out, immediately after you placed the restriction, he removed a reliably sourced quote from Zionist entity. Today, as you are aware, he has been edit-warring at the ADL disambiguation page, to remove the description of the ADL as an "anti-hate group". At his request, I provided a reliable source that describes the ADL in those exact words, and Jayjg has provided 2 additional ones. Despite this, and despite the restriction you placed, he removed the well sourced description (while, oddly, keeping in the sources that support it). It seems the restriction you placed is pretty toothless, and unsurprisingly, MM has referred to it as an "inofficial block" 23:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Israel Shahak. This is rather simple. On that page I have great difficulty in trying to get editors to redraft a defective section, which was written from three uncited sources, and then sourced to another book (Segev) which did not back those details. I've been invited by the looks of it to an edit-war. My request for precise citation has been mocked by the use of citations that are not in the sources. I can't edit the page anymore, but this is not a content dispute. NoCal100 has given as a source for 'Haredi Jew' a text (Paul Bogdanor p.121) which refers to an 'Orthodox Jew'. Apart from the fact that Paul Bogdanor is an unreliable source, whose information comes in any case from the three reliable sources we all agree on, this constitutes an infraction of WP:OR. 'Orthodox Jew' of the source has been twisted into 'Haredi Jew'. This and a dozen other examples show, in my view, bad faith. The editors have warred on this. Why not simply agree to write the section according to the exact wording of the 3 RS? The new source, as I repeatedly noted, does not support the claim, the claim violates WP:OR, and yet I cannot undo it further without an infraction of the 3rr rules. I regard this mode of deliberately insisting on a false source as problematical with that editor. He knows I can't stand bad sourcing, and appears to persist in making what any simple check will show is a falsification, to provoke an edit war. I don't need advice. The page needs closer administrative oversight that it is getting. Nishidani (talk) 21:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka. I wonder whether you might refrain from suggesting the above about me on wikipedia: it is not supported by any of my diffs. Besides, as you know, I am on wikibreak in the Lent term, because I am extremely busy in real life. Are you trying to harrass or bully me? Cheers, Mathsci (talk) 22:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
In this article talk page Talk:Herman_J._Mankiewicz, I have found that user User:Wikiwatcher has made at least four errors in the article he is contributing to. I am not sure if he is adding them incorrectly on purpose, or is a sloppy editor, or he is using sources that are incorrect. He added two paragraphs to the lede of that article that were unsourced, and when I added fact tags, he removed them and justified on the talk page that he got the information from further in the article or from other Wikipedia articles. When I challenged that and said that the info had to come from a reliable source and had to be sourced on the article space not the talk page, he then said that they came from a single source, a biography that isn't available online. The four errors I found are listed on the talk page. Well, three I found, someone else found that he added an incorrect photo before I reached the article. Any suggestions? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Elonka, I'm having a bit of difficulty with User:Kasaalan. He seems to be an SPA focusing almost entirely on Rachel Corrie and satellite articles -- see here: [12]. Recently, and unprovoked, he starts accusing me of "hate" [13], and that I "adore IDF irrationally." I deleted those comments, he put them back in, with more on the subject of me hating. I finally decided, though he is an SPA and difficult to communicate with, to just ask him to strike them himself in this thread. AFAICT, Kasaalan agreed to consider doing so at some indeterminate point in the future if I would agree with him more. I'm thinking of deleting the comments again myself and may yet do so, but wondered what your thoughts were. IronDuke 18:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Also about the Rachel Corrie talk page. Elonka, i understand that you are quite busy, and you may not have noticed the incresingly disruptive editing of Untwirl, a single purpose account who has repeatedly violated WP:NPA by discussing his/her negative opinions of other editors, rather than discussing article content. I think the problem has now become WP:DISRUPT. To give a few of the most recent examples: [14][15][16]. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 16:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Elonka, I am in desperate need of some help. Jayron32, TAnthony, and myself have been trying to deal with an IP vandal that keeps daily adding fan fiction to Days of Our Lives articles. The IP changes everytime, but usually, he/she is putting children's names that have never been aired. If you look at my contributions, you will see all I have done for the past two is revert numerous fan fictions. What can we do? As always, your assistance is greatly appreciated. Rm994 (talk) 01:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi There. From the moment I opened my account user Verbal followes me around and tries to delete some of my contributions. At least this is my impession. If you check my contributions you will see that user Verbal keeps tagging articles for speedy deletion ( even about notable topics) . Besides that he reverted twice my reasonable - I think - edits as vandalism.
Am I doing something wrong ? if so, can you please advice?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oscillococcinum&diff=274085865&oldid=274085024 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carl_W._Gottschalk&diff=274514560&oldid=274514394
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I think some Toe-jams (i.e., USC Trojans) are messing with the UCLA article. There is definitely some re-direct shenanigans going on here and I think someone with your "cryptic" mind set might be able to sort this out. Seems that a wiki search for UCLA leads nowhere. Is some admin freaking out here by deleting the University of California, Los Angeles entry?
Then again, I could just be confused! --Quartermaster (talk) 12:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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I would like a new name if possible. How about Bjennings? Also I can provide you with other sources that talk about Jay Dee. Do I just copy/paste them in here or is there an easier way to get you this information? Thanks.JayDeeComedy (talk) 16:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Elonka,
I thought you might be interested in knowing that I have tagged the Dragonrealms article for not establishing notability. Please note that I am not arguing that DragonRealms is not notable (I don't know enough about gaming to argue that issue) ... I am simply saying that notability has not been established in the article (ie the article does not say why the game is notable). From what I gather, you were involved in the game's creation or something... so it is likely that you will be able to help fix the problem (or, if you have a COI in editing, you will know someone who can).
Best Blueboar (talk) 14:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka. Previously there was an agreement with Levine2112 to briefly avoid chiropractic subjects, but now he's involved in the same behavior again, IOW whitewashing the subject wherever it's mentioned. He is deleting well-documented facts based on false arguments. Please take a look at his recent edits. He wishes to hide the fact that Applied Kinesiology, a method created by a chiropractor, widely used by chiropractors, and a very few other professionals who are into alternative medicine, is indeed a chiropractic method. That's simply whitewashing and unwikipedian. There is a discussion thread here. -- Fyslee (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Closing thread since this is being dealt with on the List of topics characterized as pseudoscience talk page. -- Fyslee (talk) 00:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
The Komondor article is usually edited wery seldomly indeed, but lately I had a lot of trouble and discussion and also asked for third oppinions on its size and appearence. This breed being fairly unknown, not many people check that article, or try to defend it from bias. I think it is strange that suddenly four newly created accounts which do not edit anything else but Komondor related topics, all of the sudden appear one after the other, and start working in the same direction, trying to modify the impresion of the breed size, supporting each other in all ways.
All this started because of one picture taken of an (appearently small) Komondor at Westminster Dog Show and used at the lead of the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show article.
And all of them are referring to this certain Komondor dog, called Quincy, (which is said to be the one in that picture). All accounts try to adjust the Komondor dog article to make it sound like the breed is smaller which means, to look more like that dog in that picture.
A dog the accounts and IP might be related to (thoug they deny this), or like this dog, which the accounts all call Ouincy, could be this dog here, http://clubs.akc.org/kca/theshow.htm a Komondor dog with a longer body than the international standards calls for (body lenght should be max 104% of the heigt at the dog at the whiters).
User(s) repeatedly removed relevant and sourced facts about size and body type..
Combined IP adress :70.121.204.57 and red link User:Meoconne assisted by User:Lynovella, repeatedly reverted edits at Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show and Komondor dog breed articles, and removed facts from the Komondor article, such as: the dog breeds average height (30 inch), the fact that no upper height limit is given.[1] leaving only minimum height and even other relevant and sourced breed caracteristics like square body (a dog term for a dog with short back) too.
Both average height (sourced) has been removed, (several times), [18] [19] [20], [21] [22] [23] upper limit height (sourced) [24], [25] mentioning other similar Hugarian sheepdogs [26], which all of them are relevant information for this encyclopaedia article on this dog breed, and when I (and even ClueBot) [27] [28] [29] [30] put them back he keeps removing them again [31], and makes quite a few unhelpful edits instead [32], removing reference title, [33] without any consensus.
This is both Wikipedia:Edit war, and disruptive editing [34], [35].
This edit was also copright violation, an exact copy from the FCI Komondor Standards [36], poorly formulated edit added upper case The above mentioned newly created new red link user accounts are all editing the same articles, Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Komondor and nothing else.
They are all concentrated on the same issue at Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show and Komondor dog breed, trying to adjust the article to show that Quincy is a perfect dog according to the breeds standards.
User(s) were editing the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show and the Komondor dog article as an IP adress, IP adress 70.121.204.57, than under one username, User:Meoconne [37] He or she probably also edits the Komondor article and talk page as User:Lynovella and continues in the same time as IP adress 70.121.204.57.
First they were trying to ignore breed standard, other sources and pictures presented in argumentation on the talk page .
It is also possible that the account User:Goldie102 has been created to support this issue around this Quincy dog, now, after a heated debate, claiming that the dog has perfect appearance, size, proportion and weight all according to the debated and well sourced International Komondor standards see edit [38].
I know sockpuppets are not allowed on Wikipedia.
I strongly suspect these are socks, can you check them, please?
Warrington (talk) 12:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
There's a question in sources that are acceptable that I was unable to answer I thought I'd ask you since you if your able to answer it or not. It has to do with who approves/rejects GM applications in DragonRealms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Legeres (talk • contribs) 13:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, don´t know, if you have much time, but there is the topic Battle of "Rozgony", which is disputed between me and few hungarians. Actually, I can´t see a reason for name Rozgony, which was used sometimes in 19. century for the village and now it´s used in Hungary, today the village is Rozhanovce in Slovakia. At last was deleted also a mention about Battle of Rozhanovce, which Wizzard implemented into the article. I would appreciate you to express your opinion on my talkpage, or better at the talk to the article. Thank you.--Michalides (talk) 08:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
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Should I let the administrators create the category about 2010 in television with the 2009-2010 United States network television schedules for daytime, late night and Saturday morning television? Ericthebrainiac (talk) 16:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
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Being a renown entrepreneur, this fellow computer science/business undergraduate asks you your advice. I love to travel. Is there anything you can recommend me? And sorry for posting such a random question. Have a good day! --DarkKunai (talk) 04:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Kirill has asked some questions here. You are invited to respond. --Tznkai (talk) 22:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello Elonka. I notice your "experiment" but am not sure if it's still running, and I also see that you're taking a break. Still, I'd be grateful if you'd look at this. -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I just want to say you sound like an amazing person. The amount of languages you can speak is impressive as well as your contributions to Wikipedia! Feel free to sign my guestbook. :) Ross Rhodes (T C) Sign! 18:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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It may be a bit of a strech. But I saw "chaotic cryptography" mentioned in this article at AfD. So in the interest of restoring order, I thought I'd point it out to you. Cheerios. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, didn't know if you were aware of this: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ryulong/Proposed_decision#Ryulong_desysopped. As he is the only Admin besides you I know of who was asked to step down under AOR who did not, perhaps there is a lesson there for you - those who have expressed concern about your methods and actions do so with concern for Wikipedia in mind, and not for any baseless or personal reason. You would do well to heed their advice and pay attention to their concerns, and modify your approach accordingly. Those who cause distress and concern to such a large group of established, reputable editors would do well to examine their own actions, because while the majority is not always right, when there are that many complaints, there are generally grounds for them and eventually this must be corrected, one way or the other. I hope you will consider this a helpful bit of advice, and cease your high-handed, dismissive way of simply ignoring or personalizing concerns brought to you about your actions and instead view the mass of criticism directed your way as an opportunity to improve. KillerChihuahua?!? 18:50, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Elonka, I remember you said Wikisource encourages user translations, so I added another one - wikisource:Cum ex injuncto (1199). I tried copying some other articles there to get all the templates right, but you have more experience there than me, so could you check to see if I did everything right? I put the original Latin on la.wikisource too. (I know it currently points to a non-existent Wikipedia article, but I will finish that today or tomorrow.) Adam Bishop (talk) 16:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka, I noticed that you had some dealings with editors of this page in the past (2007). There have been some recent problems with COI editing - I would appreciate some help from a more experienced editor with resolving these issues. There's an ongoing discussion on the talk page and there have been two COIN discussions, this one is currently live. Cheers Smartse (talk) 12:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Well here's a blast from the past! I was just passing through, how are you these days? Do you remember me?
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Elonka, can you look into the Julia Havey article? Rhode Island Red apparently is obsessed with Julia and has made many inaccurate edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.40.232.236 (talk) 23:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka, hope you are well. Quite some time ago you very kindly set up my talk page for automatic archiving and I have been very happy and grateful. But in all this time, the very first section of the talk page (called, "Hello. Jewish Friend") has never been archived. This is puzzling and a bit irritating because it is very very very old, out-dated talk. Do you know why it has not yet been archived? Should I archive it manually or can i find a way to have it archived with the rest of the material, now archived, that was written on my talk page around the same time? Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 01:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't know whether you're interested in this or not but I'm trying to get a few other points of view so I figured I'd ask. I stumbled accross your userpage and had a hunch you might be willing to help out if not that is fine to. After noticing the closest thing to prevention on the school shooting page involved arming teachers and shooting students at the last minute I thought there could be something better so I created the Preventing school violence article to link to it and have had a hard time convincing people not to delete links or the article itself. If it seems like something your interested in anything you put in will be apreciated. I'm just trying to correct something I consider seriously flawed. thanks Zacherystaylor (talk) 20:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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I noted your comment on Coolcaesar's talk page about the user's use of personal attacks and abusive language. Such behavior has continued in nearly all of the user's posts. I have tried to reason with the user but without success. Please submit a complaint. Hopefully if enough of us do so, it might actually have a result. Zoticogrillo (talk) 04:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Elonka, could you take a look at this? Looks like a pretty blatant case of COI editing to me, but you know more about the Lords and their operation than I do. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka,
I see you have been active on the Slota page, trying to get it sorted in the past.
I removed a few images of Neo-Nazi connection that are quite libelous and referred the matter to the living persons biography board. Its not a personal issue i assure you, I just think it may end up leading down a very POV path that no one want that article to go. Please confirm that I went about it properly and followed the proper procedures. Also confirm that it was proper to make this edit in case someone tries to reinsert the image. --Petethebeat (talk) 17:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Elonka, long time no speak. Do you have time for a little article improvement work? --John (talk) 01:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Elonka, I see you started the article Mosque of Amr ibn al-As and used Creswell's Early Muslim Architecture as a reference. I was wondering if you still have access to this book (or better yet The Muslim Architecture of Egypt) as I am looking to use it for an article I am working on but cannot find the book. Thanks, nableezy - 06:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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I have asked for opinions as to whether it would be appropriate for me to move this article to my rough work in my user space. Since you were one of the five other people who made an edit to it I'd appreciate your opinion as to whether the other edits rise to the level of being considered "intellecutal content".
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 14:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Your condensing of the plot on The Lost Symbol removed some of my material which helped to clarify for the article reader. My main problem is that you deleted my ending line about actually what the "lost symbol" in the title is. The whole chase and solving of puzzles does refer to a tangible object--the Bible in the cornerstone of the Washington Monument. Evidence: Pg 471: (style as written): Peter: "The Lost Word is buried in D.C.... and it does rest at the bottom of a long staircase beneath an enormous engraved stone." Pg 486: Langdon: "The Lost Word was buried in the cornerstone of this monument on July 4, 1848, in a full Masonic ritual." You also took out my lines referring to the laboratory work of Katherine Solomon, the female lead in the story. The plot sections on both of Brown's other books are quite long. I want to request that you revist the page and consider restoring my material. Your edits unfortunately reverted the plot to vague status ending in a generalization of what the "lost symbol" means. The majority of editors will eventually attempt to correct that, something I had already done. 5Q5 (talk) 18:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Mal'akh destroys Katherine Solomon's Smithonsonian-sponsored laboratory, where she conducted successful experiments in the ability of the human mind to affect subatomic particles, in a fiery nighttime explosion.
Katherine enters the room and is reunited with Peter, who informs her that he had secretly made copies of her computer research records, which proved experiments that "demonstrated the effect of human thought on everything from ice crystals to random-event generators to the movement of subatomic particles."
[people are not God's subjects, but in fact possess the capability to be gods themselves]: the Second Coming is actually the Second Coming of man.
[In the end, Langdon realizes that the word is Hope.] The "lost symbol" in the context of the story, however, is revealed to be a copy of the Bible secreted away in the cornerstone of the Washington Monument deep underground. Unretrievable, it and whatever other secrets may be contained within are lost to time.
If you won't restore the above deletions yourself, I will bring this to the article's talk page and ask for consensus on restoration or continued deletion. I will do that tomorrow. 5Q5 (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
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Last year, when the article on Virginia was up on FAC, we were proud to have your support for it. Unfortunately, we didn't have anyone else's then. One year later, we're back up on FAC, with more supporters, and I was hoping you could again look over the article and give your opinion on it. Thanks!-- Patrick {oѺ∞} 16:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I think coordinates would be okay in its own article, but in that list article, it didn't seem relevant, since that section is just a small, capsule summary of that location, and it seemed inconsistent with the rest of the article, which doesn't have such coordinates. Nightscream (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Since you're an admin and a member of the Military History WikiProject, feel free to list yourself here. Cheers, –Juliancolton | Talk 17:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello Elonka, it says here that when an article about a living person is unreferenced, editors shall request admin assistance. This article is not only unreferenced, but also not written from a NPOV, a great part is unverifiable, basically the article is one personal attack, and in my opinion it's libelous. Yesterday I have deleted some text immediately and without waiting for discussion (hopefully in accordance with WP?), but today the text is reverted. The part I have deleted has a citation at the end, I have looked up the source, but it does not say the things said in the article - so I have deleted it. Of course this just an example - almost the whole text is biased, I can show more examples.
I don't want to get into edit wars so I'm asking you. You were involved with the article previosly - I hope it's ok?
I would make the changes myself, but it's kinda hard, with all the reverting. To me it seems, that almost no sentence is written from a NPOV. I would like to delete the parts that are doubtful and harmful, parts that are written like "he was universally criticised", I'd like to change to "some people criticised him" and add citations.
You should know, that political fight is much tougher and sharper in Slovakia (and I think in all the ex-communist European states), than say in Germany or in the US.
Thanks for your help J --Jg333 (talk) 11:45, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
in submitting your comments about the article Catholic Church? I am going to take this article to peer review some time in the near future and I was hoping to get some fresh perspectives. The article is very stable - points of conflict this year have focused mainly on the article name which was decided after a lenghty and successful mediation and the two paragraphs covering World War II. The article section on Cultural Influence is slated to be expanded by a paragraph to include the Church's influence on the hospital system, justice system, educational system, etc. Please feel free to wander over and offer up some suggestions at your leisure. No hurry. Thanks! NancyHeise talk 03:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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I'm still getting used to the editing policies and methods here, and I saw that you were an admin who (at least at one point?) had an interest in soap opera articles, so I'm hoping you can help me with a few things?
Thank you in advance for your help! Shymian (talk) 06:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I have started a Request for Arbitration regarding the use of northern/southern West Bank vs. Judea and Samaria. Since you have been involved in this debate, I have included you in the request.