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I saw that piece of garbage you got earlier. Here's a real barnstar:
The Current Events Barnstar | ||
I am giving you this barnstar for all your work on updating the straw polls article and for all the work you have done on election articles. Great job. STX 21:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC) |
The Working Man's Barnstar | ||
For tireless work. Going above and beyond in editing the Presidential Campaign, 2008. December 2007--Duchamps_comb MFA |
The Socratic Barnstar | ||
For the many insightful and helpful contributions you've made to the discussions of election articles and templates, I award you this barnstar. JayJasper (talk) 15:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC) |
The Civility Barnstar | |
For keeping civility at Wikipedia:Summary style and discussing it on the talk page instead of reverting. —HueSatLum 22:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC) |
Hey John, thanks for helping out and welcome to Wikipedia. Could you not move things around on talk pages? It makes it very difficult for editors who have been following all along to follow the discussion, and it's pretty confusing. Thanks a lot! --Gloriamarie 16:31, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words and for wanting to help. I'll take a look at your article soon and let you know-- it's a good idea for an article! The big POV issue atm is probably the abortion thing; a few editors seem to want to make the entire article focus on abortion for some reason... it's odd. There are also some sourcing issues, which I saw you pointed out with the list of federal agencies given. Thanks for noticing that and helping to sort it out.--Gloriamarie 06:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
FAC comments belong on the FAC page, not Talk pages, as far as I can tell. And no comments too small - just wait until User:BQZip01 gets at you with the non-breaking spaces et al. Wasted Time R 20:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about not using ((Interrupted)); I actually haven't seen that before, or if I did, I forgot it. Seems useful ... Wasted Time R (talk) 02:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
From WP:MOS: "The word to, rather than an en dash, is used when a number range involves a negative value or might be misconstrued as a subtraction (−3 to 1, not −3–1), or when the nearby wording demands it (he served from 1939 to 1941, not he served from 1939–1941)." Please leave the wording as we had it - from, to - on Hillary Rodham Clinton. Should be that way on Ron Paul as well. Further - you don't have to follow MOS slavishly even if it didn't say this: common sense should prevail, and common sense prefers narrative to en dashes here. As for HRC - your rewrite was too extreme and introduced error (e.g., she has long been considered a polarizing figure in politics, not a polarizing politician - those two are not equivalent). At this stage, coming in and doing a wholesale rewrite is not the best way to go - and it's not a matter of "favorite phrases", which, again, is a bit insulting. You've just arrived here and might want to spend some time in the archives so you have a better idea of how we got to the place we are on articles - this goes for Ron Paul too in my opinion - it's not always the best approach to come in and just wholesale rewrite. By doing so at this point on HRC, you make it more difficult to respond to the comments made in the FAC, having the effect of derailing the process. I wouldn't want to think that this is your goal. Tvoz |talk 04:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I'll try to look at it tomorrow, but I'm kind of knee-deep in a couple of things and may not have a chance. Will do my best. Tvoz |talk 05:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I didn't realize there was already a straw poll article. I agree that we should merge them together and create a new article with just the Democratic results.--Southern Texas 01:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello John J. Bulten, I've been editing very little in the past few months and I haven't kept track of what's going on with the straw polls article. I'll change the maps if you give me a list of everything that needs to be changed, thank you in advance. On a side note, is JayJasper not your friend?--Southern Texas (talk) 03:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I found your comment in this diff's edit summary to be problematic. The policy of WP:CIVIL makes it clear that judgmental comments in edit summaries are not permitted.
Please view references numbers 113 and 116 in the References section of this diff. This is the version that existed just before I removed two defunct citations; there is a bright-red error message in each of these references. All I did was convert these empty references to requests for citations. I did not have the time or inclination to figure out which refs were intended by the defunct titles "insideradv" and "gallup92007". Citation requests are an improvement over statements which have nothing but a defunct label as a reference.
To be called "disingenuous" after I made this small improvement to the article is not very nice. If you have anything else to say on such matters, please do it in the proper places, not in edit summaries. Please try to AGF; I want the article to be good too. Thanks. Photouploaded 20:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I hereby apologize to those editors who have been cleared by an administrator of my charges that they were suspected sockpuppets. In each case I believed at the time that I had probable cause to make the accusation, but in at least one case I agree with the consensus that I did not actually have sufficient cause. I believe pride also contributed, resulting in overzeal and several mistakes in understanding the graduated levels of accepted protocols. I'd like to explain how the mistakes arose, not to defend, but only to illustrate.
I will be more careful: for instance, I can discuss charges with more experienced editors rather than send them immediately to admins. Also, having made these mistakes, I will impose a 24-hour timeout on myself, and refrain from edits immediately after linking this note to the appropriate case pages. See you soon, happy Reformation Day. JJB 15:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not exactly sure why. I'm not even exactly sure what that is, or what I can do about it. Could you please explain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starkrm (talk • contribs) 19:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Try making a case about Dlabtot if you want what I think is a real sock puppet. Starkrm 16:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I encourage you to request checkuser or whatever the process is. I'm nobody's sockpuppet and frankly I find the accusation to be boring and not worthy of a response beyond saying that my name is James Lang, I live in Alberton, MT, and I always post from 12.32.36.103 or 216.166.132.57, I made a couple edits from one or both of those IPs before I registered my username and all of my edits since I registered have been made under this username. Do not expect any further response from me on this non-issue. Dlabtot 00:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
WP:BLP is not a license to edit another editor's comments, whether you or I consider them incorrect or not. Please read this before doing so again. --Orange Mike 01:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Regarding your edit summary on Ron Paul (talk): I'm editing from an IP because I feel like it and because Wikipedia policy permits me to do so (don't worry, I'm not Ben/James or whoever). Specifically, I reverted you because I felt your removals of someone else's comments were highly inappropriate. More generally I dislike the ownership you assert over the article, and I intend to revert your removal of other people's comments every time it happens. --68.162.80.156 21:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
The guy stuck identical comments in other talk pages. I feel this falls under "Deleting material not relevant to improving the article"; I gather you do not? --Orange Mike | Talk 00:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
It's generally not considered acceptable to edit other folks, except to remove vandalism; not even if you are praising them. I'm not reverting your recent edit to Kaz' userpage, in case it was done with his prior approval; but I thought you should know. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Please refrain from making changes to other editors' comments. While talk pages are for discussing improvements to articles, we certainly don't "correct" for "shock nature" or POV on them. --Newsroom hierarchies (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with the SoLA edit for me. I'm pretty sure I saw your handle on another page I was looking at to work on too (I've taken a bunch of the candidates to try to put my hand to make the articles better) so hopefully we'll get to work on these things together soon (I hear there's a 4 day rule before I am no longer n00b)! Apartcents (talk) 00:09, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I agree something is fishy with foofight. It seems he's more interested in pushing some agenda than adding to the quality of the article. SoLA is much more complicated than just 'revert it to the states.' A finding is not completely non-binding, either. And yeah, "calling the LOC" made me lol. Thanks for the help, I'm a fan of Ron Paul too so don't want to see the page vandalized by dummies. Apartcents (talk) 22:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
16:13, 4 December 2007 . . JayJasper (Talk| contribs| block) (40 bytes) (moved Christine Smith (libertarian) to Christine Smith (activist): "Activist" is a more all-encompassing term.)
After the page was moved on December 4, there was an AfD regarding the article here. Article got deleted; I deleted the broken redirect. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
This discussion is getting contentious (for instance, you replied to one of my posts, "how to respond calmly?"). You seem very attached to this article.
I don't understand why. I know you're an advocate for Paul, and there's nothing wrong with that, not even in WP. What I don't understand is why you want to take an article about the term "moneybomb" and use it as a platform to discuss your candidate; it puts you in the awkward position of having to respond to arguments on two fronts simultaneously:
More than one editor (myself obviusly among them) believes that there shouldn't even be a "moneybomb" article; that is is a faddish neologism of uncertain notability, which creates a third front on which you're now obligated to deal with arguments.
Why don't we strip the moneybomb article down to a kernel of well-sourced defensible campaign-neutral content, and then add a subhed about Paul that redirects to his campaign article? Then we don't have to debate the successes or failures of his campaign in this article. I do not care about the Paul campaign one whit, and am unlikely to "follow" you into the warren of articles that are genuinely dedicated to his campaign.
--- tqbf 18:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
It's unnecessary to tally and judge comments in AfD votes. Like I said in the AfD debate, but should have just said directly --- when you criticize someone else's vote, all you're really doing is begging them to come back with a stronger, more compelling "delete" vote. It's unlikely that the closing admin is going to misread a "per nom". There is also nothing wrong with a per nom; it's just not a particularly compelling argument.
--- tqbf 02:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Ron Paul Revolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ron_Paul_Revolution#Ron_Paul_Revolution
If you have time I would like to hear your comments on this page. Thanks--Duchamps comb (talk) 19:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Directions for discovering that: Because the link wasn't easy enough, here are the step-by-step instructions:
1. Go to [http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d110query.html Thomas]. 2. Select box with "Choose House Members" highlighted, it be roughly in the center of the screen. 3. Type "P" and select the entry for "Paul, Ron ..." 4. Click the radio button labeled "Sponsor" 5. Scroll to the bottom of the screen and click the "Search" button 6. On the results page, scroll down and notice how none of the "Latest Major Action" for the activities list "Signed by President". 7. Click the Back button on your browser. 8. Select 109 as the Congress to search in the list at the top. 9. Repeat steps 2–7 for Congresses 105–108, 98–96, and 94. 10. Notice that none of his bills have made it to a vote.
Burzmali (talk) 19:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
John, you can put down the bicycle pump, the article's size isn't going to make or break it. Besides, some of your recent additions aren't really adding information about the bill. Burzmali (talk) 20:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Burzmali (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
As you've made it clear that you intend to throw WP:AFD#AfD Wikietiquette to the wind in any further AFDs I start, I figured that I'd come here to see what you opinion is on a couple articles.
First, as I'm sure you'll soon notice, Education Improvement Tax Cut Act has been deleted under CSD-G4 as the recreation of deleted material. The same article was deleted as Teacher Tax Cut Act last year. Nothing new has been added to the article and Google News still doesn't have anything notable about either [1] [2]
Second, I looked at the articles Sanctity of Life Act and Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act. Neither is sourced particularly well. Google news turns up nothing of real note for the first [3] (excluding "chuck baldwin" from the search removes renewamerica.us, not a RS to be sure) but turns up an interesting hits on the second [4] namely [5]. While a single article doesn't establish notability, it's enough to prevent me from nomming it from AFD. Now, if you could find one source as clear as that one for each of Paul's bills, I would happily withdraw my AFDs. I've slapped a Notability on the other for now. Burzmali (talk) 14:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you considered my response at "Stem Cell Controversy" unreasonable. I am quite sincere in regarding this kind of thing as silly and undignified grasping at straws. I am proud to say that I don't try to edit pages of candidates I support, nor of candidates I consider actively evil, for fear that I will lose my NPOV in my fervor. I genuinely believe that a loss of objectivity on the part of supporters has happened in almost all Ron-Paul-related articles, and it is an embarassment to the decent people who support him (among whom I number yourself). --Orange Mike | Talk 15:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Good job bud! I was planning to rewrite the article myself, but I'm glad to see somebody else did and with some really good sources.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
This article has been around for a month and has shown no improvement to justify its own page separate from Ron Paul. I would hope you'd see the truth in that and restore the redirect until someone can add enough sourced information to show the organization's notability on its own. Otherwise I guess this has to go to AFD or something. -- Dougie WII (talk) 18:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
John J. Bulten Graet article G. Edward Griffin
BJBot Your Opinion is "Your Opinion" keep it for you and have fun. (LakeOswego (talk) 01:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC))
What do you think about adding Creature from Jekyll Island (audio) SAMPLE
What do you think about adding the German Edition of the Creature from Jekyll Island?(LakeOswego (talk) 23:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC))
what's the point of wiki if i can't correct errors? every time i fix it, someone changes it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.242.164 (talk) 23:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey John. Sorry I didn't reply earlier. I wanted to let you know that I was impressed by your comment on my talk page. I was expecting to get an earful, but instead I find myself agreeing with your comment. (Especially that a consensus hasn't really been reached (probably partly due to not enough editors).) One of my more general concerns the information might be better managed as a news article (on Wikinews, for example) - particularly because new polls are conducted quite often, so the article seems to require updates often. At least, that is my impression from looking into the material, though I haven't tried editing it, so I don't know for certain.
I am not active as much recently, but if you like, I could try commenting some on the talk page, and hopefully we (and other editors) can get a discussion going. I admit I'm still concerned about the Arizona poll I mentioned on my talk page, so that might be a good topic for an initial discussion.
Anyways, thanks again for the comment on my talk page. Let me know if you are interested in trying to strike up a discussion. :-) Cheers, Iamunknown 04:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
John, thank you so much for steering us in the right direction. That is all that we wanted, and that advice wasn't being offered. I do have some questions about merging. If we do merge, is there still a way to add in her info box if we add in the other candidate's as well? Also I am still very confused about how Wikipedia works. SarcasticIdealist mentioned that it just happened to be "bad luck" for her, but that just doesn't seem quite right. There are 8-9 other campaigning candidates that are "less notable" than Annie Loyd, yet their pages have remained up for quite some time, but as soon as this article went up, it was voted to be deleted. There is also an info box for Congressional Candidates on the info box page, so I just wanted to know why this page cannot stay up and if she doesn't receive more notability, then it be deleted in the future. The article's purpose isn't to campaign. The article's purpose is to teach. If someone happens to stumble upon the article, or searches her name in Google and they find her Wikipedia page, they will learn more about being an Independent, and why being an Independent may be a good option. It's not campaigning, because most of the people that will view the article will not be part of Arizona's 3rd District to vote, but the reason why people posted on the delete page was because people from New York, California, Arizona, Virginia, etc. have heard her voice and think it is important enough to keep this article up. Although she may not be "notable" in Wikipedia's book, and although we cannot assume "future notability", this woman, a homosexual woman, will be the first of her sex to come this far in an Arizona Congressional election and most likely win. That alone is notable enough. I understand your ruling, but I am asking if you could work with me a little bit more, or a little longer so that even if she has to be merged into another article, it will be done properly.--Cbenton2679 (talk) 20:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, if there is no reliability in deletion, then how can wikipedia be at all credible if articles, that are seriously lacking, are allowed?--Cbenton2679 (talk) 22:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Has a habit of misrepresenting the facts - I was providing the facts. He said there were no criticism sections in several of those articles and I provided the titles of those sections, not only that, I provided an example of the sycophantic praise that is lavished over the article in question as an example of the contrast between it and comparable articles. Please undelete my argument or further discuss the issue. TheGoodLocust (talk) 20:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure it's the right Christian Polak? It doesn't seem very likely to me that we know he has lived in Japan for the last 30 years. --Slp1 (talk) 17:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you John for your great, thoughtful and courageous edits! I will answer your question tomorrow if you don't mind. For now, I'm going to bed. Best regards. PHG (talk) 21:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Restored. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi JJB, thanks for the greeting on my talk page. I read the Hebrew Roots article - interesting. I for one appreciate the recent shift in biblical scholarship towards a greater appreciation for the "Old" Testament - from this perspective, Calvinism has it more correct than Lutheranism, and the New Perspectives on Paul has much to say, I believe. Adventists were far ahead of their time on this issue, even if they have gotten some details wrong (as I believe they have). Methodist scholar Donald Dayton recently affirmed this. I replied to your comment on Talk:Sabbath in Seventh-day Adventism#Rename proposal. I have not kept up with the other Sabbath articles, although I approve of your changes to Sabbath - see comments there. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 07:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Next time an editor like Terrier starts using "Ron Paul fan" or "Paultard" as an epithet at you or others, remember this line from WP:NPA: Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views — regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. If they do so more than once or twice after being reminded of this, bring them before WP:ANI for personal attacks. I've done it once before and had a user blocked for 24-hours, after which they corrected their behavior. Just thought you might like a similar tool as you work to improve Wikipedia. Buspar (talk) 21:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll give it at least another month before I start filling in for him. He shows up every now and then. He just has a busy life and comes here when he can. He shall return. --SharkfaceT/C 01:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for creating Category:Ron Paul. However I notice that you're applying it very liberally. I'm not aware of the supporters of other policitians being added to their categories, or even their hometowns. Perhaps it'd be simpler to add links to the articles on those topics to the article on Ron Paul? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:23, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
John, I think if you skim over the last 2000 or 3000 edits (which is only a couple of months), you'll see that any dramatic change in the lead section might get a pretty dramatic reaction, possibly losing some of the minor improvements we've achieved over the last month. Let's give it a rest for a little bit so that we can build up data to prove that the changes of the last month have been helpful. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 22:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. It seems interesting, so if I learn more about it then I'll probably contribute to that article. Plus, it'd be good to have some non-Ron Paul supporters like myself edit it. SteveSims (talk) 22:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
You've got to be careful here, JJB. While the guy is clearly in the wrong, a couple of days ago you used the term "vandalism" at least once in what could be argued to be a mere content dispute. I fear your anger might get the best of you.--Orange Mike | Talk 17:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice...although my entire involvement was moving the page because it wasn't capitalized correctly. This adw template is supposed to be subst'd. You may want to check up on that if you've used it elsewhere previously. --Onorem♠Dil 14:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about not notifying you - it's been a long time since I've AfDed anything. I'm posting to assure you that I didn't do it out of any anti-Paul bias - as stated on the AfD, I voted, donated, and volunteered for Paul in two states. The website is still down, and I still believe this to be a notability issue, not a crystal ball issue (though if crystal ball turns out to be the case, it was still worth nominating). --YixilTesiphon Say helloBe shallow 15:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind discussing the following paragraph, which AdRem has removed from the article:
Please note that the sources here include the current standard textbook on the 1790's.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you; as I said, I agree in principle with your proposal.
I will list my quibbles here:
Feel free to repeat these on the article talk page. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much! JJB 17:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for re-adding yourself to the active members list of Wikipedia:WikiProject United States presidential elections. Good to have you on board again!--JayJasper (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for helping at Alexander Hamilton. I would award you a 'Working Man's Barn Star', but I see you already have one. If you know of anyone who is willing to take the article on as a project (as you can see, it requires a lot of time and energy) please, please let them know. My goal is to flood this important article with new blood. I think that is probably the best way to get it up to the encyclopedic quality it deserves--a quality in which it is somewhat lacking at present. AdRem (talk) 01:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
In fact, could you remove any other tags you yourself do not support, now you've demonstrated them? They can be replaced if anyone does agree with them, but it is a waste of time to discuss tags with which nobody agrees. (I have added one ((vague)), but I would happily reword the sentence instead.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
FYI, a few of things regarding [7]. (1) Normally, you only edit your own section so if you want to comment on someone else's evidence, you should either do so on the talk page or make another subheading within your section. (2) When Viridae protected Wikipedia:Attribution, the protection automatically shows up as a minor edit - that is not something the admin can control. Similarly, when Crum375 hit the rollback button (which may or may not have been an appropriate use of rollback) the edit was automatically marked as minor - he had no control over it. --B (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
You might want to note that there were approximately 15 reverts in 3 days on WP:ATT involving the same material - that is most definitely an edit war. Protection has not been set to expire because I am watching the talk page. When I feel that people have actually started talking about it instead of blindly reverting it will be unprotected. I arrived at WP:ATT because saw someone telling Crum off and went to investigate the problem. ViridaeTalk 22:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Very nice [8], (: ——Martinphi ☎ Ψ Φ—— 05:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
User:Fritzpoll/Refinement - Can you take a look and comment on its talk page, please Fritzpoll (talk) 11:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
... but it would do some good on the Obama talk page. Hi, I appreciated your input reacting to my post at the Talk:Ron Paul page, but if you would put it in the discussion over at the Obama talk page, it will help affect the discussion there. Thanks! Noroton (talk) 17:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I was very, very impressed with your post about how to structure the presentation of the Wright controversy at Talk:Barack Obama#Wright consensus build, and I just responded to it with some suggested tweaks. I hope you'll stick around there.
As for the WP:CANVASSING business, the more I think about it, the angrier I get with the way WP:CANVASSING is written. Either it forbids what I just did, in which case there's something deeply self-contradictory about it, or it's so poorly written that it looks like it's forbidding what I just did. Contacting six or eight editors in an effort to alert them to a compromise position that will bring us closer to consensus is not disruptive. In fact, it tamps down disruptiveness. It also promotes consensus rather than promotes dissension, all of which is supposedly the purpose of WP:CANVASS. Apparently somebody else had the same interpretation of WP:CANVASS (as only applying to initial contacts among people not already involved in the discussion) as I did (there's a post from May 20 on the WP:CANVASS talk page to that effect). I'm still contemplating whether or not to try to get the guideline either changed or have its language made clearer. It just may be that there's no easy way to allow what I just did, or maybe there's no support for it. I'm still thinking about it.
As for the B.O. pic, I have no sympathy for you whatsoever. WP:CANVASS mentions that some editors can be irritated when a message at first appears to be individually directed to them, and the picture and big green headline tends to disabuse them of that pretty quickly. If I'd figured out the border correctly, that would have helped as well (I created that notice from a barnstar.) Don't like the pic, eh? There's always that delete option. [Hey, wait a minute, did you just delete it? ... Now I have even less sympathy!] If Bill Kristol's column today is any indication, the McCain campaign won't be able to get its act together well enough to pull off an upset, so you're gonna be seeing Mr. O's toothy grin for quite some time. ... Cheers, Noroton (talk) 16:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
... for Rezko language and pick one to help us get to consensus. This is a form notice, not a personal message. I'm sending it out to the most recent contributors to the Rezko discussion at Talk:Barack Obama. Sorry if this is inconvenient, but we may be close to consensus if we can get your help.
Hi, I've noticed you've been a part of the Rezko discussion but haven't said which of the options now on the table you'd prefer. It would really help us to get to consensus if we could get your input on that. There's been plenty of discussion, but if you have questions, I'm sure other editors would answer them. The four options now on the table are the three in Talk:Barack Obama#Straw poll and Talk:Barack Obama#Scjessey-preferred version (which doesn't contain the word "criticism"). So far, the two most popular versions seem to be Clubjuggle's Version 3 and Scjessey's. Please help us try to wrap this up. Noroton (talk) 17:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your message. I do post on talk pages when I feel it makes sense. If the issues are minor, self explanatory, or have been repeatedly discussed on the talk pages, I use edit summaries only. Crum375 (talk) 18:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how to leave a note of my own -- I appreciate your joining in the ban of James Salsman, who I personally know to have a number of aliases that he has used to write to me and to post messages to RADSAFE -- I am intensely opposed to the anti-depleted uranium crusaders and I like to correspond with anyone who takes a scientific approach and realizes that DU was developed under Nixon, Ford or Carter, not Bush and that neither Father nor Son Bush ever probably had any say in using it in the Gulf War or in Iraq in 2003. I am a Democrat and never was a fan of the draft dodger who hid out in the Texas ANG in order to be a pilot like Daddy but never actually go to war - I used to have very strong credentials in the veterans for Kerry world before I began being the great satan to the anti-DU crusaders like Douglas Lind Rokke, Leuren K Moret, Dennis Kyne, Asaf Durakovic, Herbert Reed and wannabe journalists like Bob Nichols and Cathy Garger. In that pro-Kerry role, I researched Lieutenant Kerry's discharge from the Naval Reserve and proved that the Swift Boat Liars were totally wrong on that point. Roger DUStory-owner@yahoogroups.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.104.197 (talk • contribs)
I left the following message for you at Talk:Barack Obama:
Of course, the Ronpaulicans capitulated for quite a bit more space being devoted to the controversy than the Obamanators are doing. Exactly right, John. Look, I will support any compromise that allows a fair treatment of Wright, Rezko and Ayers in this article. Keep it as short as you want, but make sure that readers understand there is a controversy, and why there is a controversy, by reading this article. What is the weight that is due to Bill Ayers when a compromise is reached? At least one sentence maybe two. For Jeremiah Wright and Tony Rezko, at least one substantial paragraph each, maybe two, maybe more later if the right wing 527s make a big deal out of them. I hesitated to take a voluntary 30-day vacation from the topic of Barack Obama, because it would be difficult for the people like Noroton left here to control the impulses of what Bigtimepeace describes as "Obamanators." But since BTP is here, I feel more comfortable doing so. Pay attention to what BTP says. I'll be back.
It is also because of fellow editors like you, who have experience with other contentious political articles, that I feel comfortable taking a 30-day break from the topic. I trust that you will further discuss the solution from the Ron Paul newsletter controversy and seek to implement it at Barack Obama. There has to be a compromise.
Cheers Kossack4Truth (talk) 10:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
John, I thought your joke was a typo. Still don't get the humor of the "j", but oh well. You've "voted" in almost all categories which only confuses the issue. You seem to be advocating further discussion toward some use for ATT, so you must not be advocating archiving. I suggest that you pick more clearly so that your "vote" ahs some meaning. This will conclude soon with one tag or another; you are in a minority of those advocating more discussion. Just my thought for what it's worth. --Kevin Murray (talk) 20:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Could you please take another look at this AfD and this article? I have added a number of references, and I think the article is in much better shape now. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 16:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I just want to brought it to your attention that someone is adding the e back in Gadsby--Netherling (talk) 22:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I believe you're confusing Peter Laurence Gordon with somebody else, perhaps with the same name; the composer Peter Laurence Gordon is certainly not the puzzle editor for the New York Sun. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 22:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. While I appreciate the page devoted to me, I really don't know that I'm a notable enough subject for Wikipedia, as I say on the article's talk page.
Also: based on your name and NPL links, I'm assuming that you once went by Ostrich? I would take that as a given, but I actually heard rumors of your demise from local Scrabble players, and assuming that you are that same person, I am very pleased to see that those rumors were in error. Qaqaq (talk) 00:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
You may wish to read the Report on use of sources in this case. Sam Blacketer (talk) 13:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Now I'm at a loss. What's that circular wikilink, which brings you through Gadsby: Champion of Youth back to Gadsby (book), actually for? A kind of backup? I can't fathom why you put it back in. Can you clarify? Thank you. Florian Blaschke (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Discussion - --Boston (talk) 01:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi JJB, since you say, "there is ripe ground for my position that the whole accreditation coverage on WP is tainted by poor policy compliance". Please take care of the vandalism being perpetrated on Wikipedia as I write this, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Almeda_University&diff=279477830&oldid=263897382 I do appreciate it since I'm hampered. Regards, TallMagic (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I've just tried to search for sourced (per WP:SECONDARY) for the article so it's possible to keep it, but I didn't manage to find anything. Can you help out here and add references to the article? Nsaa (talk) 19:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Rand Paul has been overhauled. This may affect your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rand Paul. This message is being copied to 8 people. JJB 07:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
The missing comma in the date was an oversight. I appreciate you catching it, but I don't think I needed the mini-lecture in the summary. We all make those kinds of errors from time to time. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
The template was completely overlapping with the text but it's fixed now. An oversize monitor certainly wasn't a cause as I'm using a middle of the road laptop. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits) 02:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello John, you've stumbled onto a bigger unresolved problem of bias relating to male and female circumcision neither of which are appropriately named. Last year I tried to change both but votes were to evenly split and ruling of no consensus was attained on each. I feel with a little more input from more editors, common sense will prevail. Garycompugeek (talk) 20:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I note from the history that you have done signficant work to keep the article GA. Thanks to your work and the work of others I feel comfortable keeping the article as GA, thank you because I really did not want to delist it. My question is about the photo link in the lead. It is currently a dead link. Any idea why? Has the image been deleted? If it has then the link should be removed from the article. Again thank you for your efforts they are not in vain. H1nkles (talk) 16:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I looked back and saw that the straw poll articles were deleted a few months ago. I think we should do a deletion review. What do you say?--William S. Saturn (talk) 17:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Bob Barr presidential campaign, 2008 is currently under peer review. As a frequent editor of similar articles, your comments would be appreciated. Thanks. --William S. Saturn (talk) 00:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Good to see you on here.--William S. Saturn (talk) 23:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
--William S. Saturn (talk) 23:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
--William S. Saturn (talk) 01:42, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Glad to see you back.--William S. Saturn (talk) 19:33, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Another editor placed a tag on Dry carpet cleaning and Carpet cleaning, linking to a current discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Paid editing. In all fairness, someone should really have informed you already. DGG (talk) 00:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi John, good to see you around here on Wikipedia. Just wanted to leave you a personal note that I have had to revert the reversion of my footnote you did here. My apologies in advance for this. Actually, the footnote addition that was done by me on the BLP policy is extremely important as some editors (few administrators though) today are confused about the difference between the policy BLP1E versus the guideline BIO1E. You and I might know the exact differences; yet, it is extremely important that the differences between these two are not left to conjecture, inductive reasoning and personal analysis, something which many on the Wikipedia project are quite capable of attempting, as they rush through the main text. Secondly, my addition was a footnote; so wordiness doesn't matter -- footnotes are meant to be explanatory -- (see it in the main article view rather than the diff view and you'll realise that my addition was/is actually relatively quite small). I know this sounds OR, but without the footnote, if you were to ask any passing editor about the differences between BLP1E and BIO1E, I can bet my 1000 edits they wouldn't be able to call it off the cuff :-) All right, not 1000, perhaps 100 edits :-) Take care John and best wishes. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 02:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the note on my page, but it's probably better to discuss articles on the article talk-pages. Cheers. PiCo (talk) 00:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
John, you say nin your edit summary that it was me who introduced the "flawed" lemche reference. True, I referenced Lemche, but I did not make a flawed citation. My cite of Lemche was to the effect that Israel was located in the northern highlands, which he says; all the rest was introduced by you. Not maliciously, of course, you simply misread Lemche. I misread people myself sometimes. Anyway, let's keep discussing on Talk. PiCo (talk) 08:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
You're quite right to be concerned at the propspect of an edit war, and we should all seek to avoid one. However, I believe I can set your mind at rest. I made a deletion (edit 1); you reverted it (edit 2) and then I redid the edit, but with an explanation on the Talk page, something which had been lacking for the first edit (simply because I hadn't thought it necessary). So let us now talk the matter out on the Talk page. Best wishes PiCo (talk) 03:15, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
I personally agree with your point of view about Biblical ages and though we may have a few disagreements, I value your opinions, but please tell me and Robert Young where to draw the line. Longevitydude (talk) 21:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Ill post my suggestion on the articles talk page when i have more time. Longevitydude (talk) 15:28, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
JJB, please do not do this kind of thing. If you think it is a bad proposal then oppose it and state why. No one editor gets to unanimously decide that the discussion will not go forward. Cheers.Griswaldo (talk) 12:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Please do not drive by revert. I have started discussions at both Talk:Moses and Talk:Jacob regarding the longevity template which is not encyclopedic. Can you please engage the discussions. Thanks.Griswaldo (talk) 04:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if you might have a chance to help me forge a consensus on Gospel of John. I have other members who are going along with it but need some more help. As usual the primary culprit is Dylan Flaherty. I made some changes but he reverted them. As usual he provides no explanation. He is on the verge of violating 3RR, and I am trying to avoid doing the same. If you have a chance could you revert his most recent reversion and provide some kind of note backing up your action?RomanHistorian (talk) 03:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
I made some major changes over on Historical reliability of the Gospels. I was wondering if you could go over there and see what you think, maybe make a few changes and add your two cents. I am trying to build a consensus on the changes and any assistance would be appreciated.RomanHistorian (talk) 18:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
I could really use your help right now over on Historical reliability of the Gospels. Someone is threatening to revert all of the changes I made and restore the article to what it had been before, which was an article in a badly neglected state. Any help would be greatly appreciated.RomanHistorian (talk) 08:21, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Some editors are wanting to restore the skeptical POV that existed on Gospel of John. You seem to know a lot about this topic, so I think it would be good if you could make some more comments on the talk page so we can get an end product that isn't as skewed as it was before.
It's ok if you would rather not make edits, but it would be helpful if you would participate in the discussion so that most participants in it aren't skeptics, and the discussion will shape the final product.RomanHistorian (talk) 17:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your participation with the editing of Gospel of John. If you have a second, could you please leave your two cents over on the talk page of Jesus (the discussion on this issue is at Talk:Jesus#Disputed_vs._debated). Three of my edits were reverted (here, here and here). I think they better reflected scholarly debate on the issues, and I am wondering what you think about them and if they should be part of the article.RomanHistorian (talk) 02:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I was wondering if you could look at two edits that I made here and here and tell me if you think they should have been reverted. They are pretty much the same thing, and were reverted because editors think Darrell Bock is fringe or an "apologist". I think the substance of the edits accurately reflects the nuances of scholarship on the issue.RomanHistorian (talk) 14:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Dylan Flaherty reported me for edit warring on Gospel of John. Would you mind going over there and putting a word inhere)?RomanHistorian (talk) 00:47, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, JJB. Just making you aware that someone has turned up with a very strong SDA POV, and he has attempted to make large scale revisions of Sabbath in Christianity. You may want to watch that article closely. Tonicthebrown (talk) 05:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi friend, just to make you aware: the article has now been re-worked beyond recognition by the same editor, with the strong traditionalist SDA POV. I do not have the time to address it, and in any case this individual has a tendency to keep reverting aggressively until he gets his way. Not sure what can be done... we may just have to leave it. Tonicthebrown (talk) 11:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi JJB. Why were you kicked off for a year? Tonicthebrown (talk) 10:17, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
See User talk:Axs912#Hey JJB. JJB 18:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Age (Since 2009) and Date of Birth | Chinese name & Chinese pinyin | Native ethnic name | Ethnicity | Birthplace/Location of residence | References | |
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No.1 (Aged 122, born on August 9, 1887[10]) | 萨迪克•萨伍提 (Sàdíkè Sàwǔtí) | سادىق ساۋۇت (Sadiq Sawut) [11] | Uyghur | Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang Province | [12] | |
No.2 (Aged 120, born on May 1st, 1889) | 努日•喀日 (Nǔrì Kārì) | - | - | Uyghur | Xinjiang Province | |
No.3 (Aged 118, born on November 11th, 1891) | 郭方姬 (Guō Fāngjī) | - | - | - | - | |
No.4 (Aged 118, born on April 17th, 1891) | 艾萨•吾苏尔 (àisà Wúsūěr) | - | Uyghur | Xinjiang Province | - | |
No.5 (Aged 117, born on November 25th, 1891) | 王张氏 (Wáng Zhāngshì) | - | Chinese | Shangqiu, Henan Province | - | |
No.6 (Aged 117, born in 1892) | 佰达洪•柔孜 (Bǎidáhóng Róuzī) | - | Uyghur | Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang Province | - | |
No.7 (Aged 116, born in 1892) | 多来提•麦麦提敏 (Duōláití Màimàitímǐn) | - | Uyghur | Khotan Prefecture, Xinjiang Province | - | |
No.8 (Aged 116, born in 1893) | 亚库普•卡斯木 (Yàkùpǔ Kǎsīmù) | ياقۇب قاسىم (Yaqub Qasim) | Uyghur | Kashgar Prefecture, Xinjiang Province | - | |
No.9 (Aged 116) | 田龙玉 (Tián Lóngyù) | - | Chinese | Hunan Province | - | |
No.10 (Aged 116) | 打兰弯 (Dǎlánwān) | - | Lisu | Nujiang Lisu Autonomous Prefecture, Yunnan Province | - |
You would need to ask the Uyghurs regarding what the original word for Nǔrì Kārì, àisà Wúsūěr, and Duōláití Màimàitímǐn are. It could be Nuri Kari, Aysa..., Dulayti Mehmetimin etc. You could try asking this user for help.
It is difficult to find updated English sources on these. The Uyghur woman Alimihan Seyiti (born in 1886) was not even mentioned in that article you gave me. Besides, these records would certainly change very quickly over time and within the 5-10 years these names would become outdated. --Jose77 (talk) 00:56, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsmejudith (talk • contribs)
Thank you for your considerations regarding my RfC John but, in the future, please do not change the context to any of my posts. Despite comments to the opposite you appear to have attempted to cast the RfC on policy in the light of a simple content dichotomy, which is very clearly not my interest, position, nor how I see the issue. I could agree discussions might require categorisation if they develop further but I specifically want to address the policy aspect not the related content which is being discussed elsewhere. Thanks. --LevenBoy (talk) 23:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Please don't re-add the personal identifications to the arbitration request; those are in violation of privacy policy. Unless those users are completely open with their identity on-wiki, you can't go around repeating that, even if they slipped up and mentioned it at some point.
I have undone it again. As I noted, it's against policy, and if you re-do it again I or another admin will likely block you. That info isn't appropriate or relevant here.
If you believe that it is, communicate it in email to Arbcom, not posted on the public request.
Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:08, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
I may have realized the source of your confusion - before I NPOVed the ~20 articles we're discussing elsewhere, I have a bunch of other abortion-related minor edits, but that's because I created a page on an assassinated doctor and was wikilinking it on pages that mentioned him. Have I hit on it? Roscelese (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (capital letters)#smallcaps and LORD.--Kevinkor2 (talk) 12:23, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi JJB,
Interesting page, but it can be improved using the magic word NEWSECTIONLINK.
If you put __NEWSECTIONLINK__ someplace in the page, the page will have a "New section" tab like regular talk pages.
--Kevinkor2 (talk) 12:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Redirect up for deletion. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 23#WP:08. For related deletion please also see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 22#WP:12. Simply south (talk) and their tree 12:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey! I wanted to know if you still needed a mediator for your case over at the Mediation Cabal - I'd be glad to help out if possible.
Cheers! Lord Roem (talk) 19:12, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
I think I can help you with your question about why you so often find yourself being opposed whether advocating a "keep" or "delete" position. Some users take these discussions on a case-by-case basis and carefully analyze them to see if they honestly meet our criteria for inclusion or not. Others see AFD as a philosophical battleground where the fate of Wikipedia hangs in the balance. These users will usually adhere to whichever "side" they have chosen in almost any AFD, no matter how many absurd arguments they have to make to twist policy and logic around to support their position. Unfortunately this situation isn't likely to change anytime soon, but the worst actors on both sides do have a tendency to eventually implode and either retire in a huff or take one too many outrageous actions and get themselves blocked. Unfortunately:: this tends to make those of us who don't care to choose a side shy away from AFD. Although perfectly understandable, it is a shame because that is exactly what is needed there. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to be so negative earlier, but I was, and still am, very unhappy about how the RfC and DRN proceeded and just wanted to forget it. I have looked at your suggestion and I personally would support it. Too bad you didn't turn up earlier before things got too overheated. I'd be surprised if you could get anyone else to support it, as it seems identical to what I did, except with asterisks. Betty's proposal was for a separate list, and I thought you were doing a version of that. But my endorsement is meaningless, as the DRN made clear, the WT:FILM crew has taken it over and they make their own rules and ignore any sources they don't like. (Explicitly stated: here.) Gothicfilm deleted my multiply sourced entries with no compunction, and claimed "consensus" to do so. With them in residence I should stay away in any case. (Yeah, I know how paranoid this sounds, but it's how it looks to me.) Barsoomian (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I put linebreaks between the Apes films in the table as having all five films and about a dozen refs in one continuous "paragraph" makes it hard to find your place when I need to modify a ref. I can see some uneven linespacing, (God knows why, the breaks should not change the appearance) but that bothers me a lot less.
Other entries, I have collapsed each table row to one line of text code, making them easier to sort and move for one thing, but most of those, with no refs, don't even make one line of text.
So, next time I edit it I will put the linebreaks back, unless you have a strong objection.Barsoomian (talk) 13:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
You may enjoy User:Chaos5023/Why your entire way of thinking about the Abortion Article Titles RFC is wrong. —chaos5023 (talk) 22:39, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey, JJB. Dunno if you've seen, but I suspected you'd want to know I've started hashing out a proposed followup RFC to AAT at User:Chaos5023/Abortion coverage. —chaos5023 (talk) 17:27, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I take your statement that you are working on referencing the document according to the guidlines at face value, but the template should stay, until the article is well referenced. Currently there are absolutely no references, and so the template should stay. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 10:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Specifically, your suggestion that the "4th TLDR" was a good idea proposed by Agent00f, I point you to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mixed_martial_arts/MMA_notability#Moving_forward.2C_no_need_to_wait which shows that a few days before, the user had been explicitly opposed to it and caused the proposal to die on the table (taking along with it the prime mediator). I consider the 4th TLDR as trying to resurrect a proposal that had some support because they were looking for a demonstration of ego needs, not trying to good-faith negotiate a solution. Hasteur (talk) 18:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Just a minor thing, I modified your recent posting regarding the responses to Agent. Specifically I change the formatting you used for the infobox MMA event template as I think you were intending to link. If this was not your intent, please feel free to revert my change and I apologize for overstepping the line. Hasteur (talk) 20:08, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
FYI: per your previous request, I do not intend to respond to Agent's questions directed at me in response to proposal 1. I want it known that I did read his questions but I am refraining from answering them as they appear to be baiting attempts. Hasteur (talk) 21:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
JJB, I very much appreciate the time you've spent on this. As I've mentioned before, you're the first editor in the many months this has been going on who entered with questions instead of assumed answers. This seemingly makes your sense of character quite rarified here. You've brought a lot of additional wiki-specific insight and most of all substance into a process that used to be 95%+ politics. In the same ANI against me there was a section about "walled-gardens" with supposedly lowered standards like MMA, implying this might be the first salvo to breach similar communities with the same poisonous politics if precedents are set. Hopefully that won't come to pass if what you've added to our understanding of the problem helps to solve this at the ARBCOM Hasteur will set up soon. It'll try to narrow the "problem" to me and the politicians I seem to attract, but I'll make sure it includes coverage of the general meaty issues. Agent00f (talk) 06:05, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
JJB, this probably helps justify your proposal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:LISTN#Stand-alone_lists. In this case, we should be able to find sources which talk about these events as a whole. Agent00f (talk) 20:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello JJB,
I am wondering if you already have contacted MEDCAB about the MMA content issue. I really do think progress is not being made in that area of WP and mediation is a sensible choice. I think very polarized sides are talking past each other and going in circles. In my opinion it's no wonder tempers have worn thin.
Also, I am unsure if you think Agent00f would be wise to request a mentor or adoption at this moment. I believe the adoption process may have been or may be taken over by the Teahouse experiment because the adoption rate had slowed.
Would you agree that for now Agent00f would be wise to remain silent in the unhappy areas until things are slower and calmer? I have just written to him asking if he'd be willing to brainstorm a different part of WP he could work on improving for the time being.
Finally, I understand Agent00f has now been warned about not making what others feel are personal attacks. Is this warning in effect forever? Will he ever go back to not being constantly at risk of immediate banning if someone feels he has said something that was an attack?
Thanks,
Factseducado (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi JJB,
Agent00f has been given a final warning for making a personal attack. I've looked and looked but I can't find one, not even sort of. Would you be willing to look to see if you can find anything vaguely attack like. I realize it's not impossible that some form of an attack may have been written and I think I need another set of eyes. It's very peculiar to me why I just can't find something even remotely resembling an attack. I assume I must be missing something.
Thanks,
Factseducado (talk) 16:18, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
What will I have to do? Factseducado (talk) 20:03, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, this was rather a surprise for my letting WP go for 2 hours. Never thought of that eventuality, that would allow an article with 70 independent sources to be deleted. Yes, please userfy to me, with full history of course, if that is the right outcome. I am disappointed that you didn't mention that there were eighteen reviews of four books other than the anthology, which were incompletely rebutted; only a couple comments mentioned them, and all referred only to the chocolate book and not to the other three reviewed books. These reviews were asserted to satisfy WP:AUTHOR and were not rebutted at any time by any of the delete !voters I can find (I only found 13 such !voters). Also after close it came out that Ashton was a Chartered Chemist after all (CFRACI), which probably settles the question of PROF#C3. Based on this data I would of course appreciate your making any clarifications necessary for the record. JJB 01:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! You've discovered my idiosyncratic method of enlisting talkers into assisting with autoarchiving. Probably needs some more touchup, as please select is intended to mean that I want the talker to choose from among the list. Has worked well from a maintenance standpoint. JJB 15:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I think I have a reasonable compromise that you might look at. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 19:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks HueSatLum, you are very kind. JJB 19:35, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi JJB. I have no idea why I decided to look here, but I'm glad I did. I can't tell you how delighted I am to find a Christian libertarian in this organization. I perhaps naively thought everyone would be left-wing secular-humanist. I'm concerned by your declaration that this space is for conversations "civilly and amicably initiated by other editors", since I'm just writing to say hello. My name is Ken Biegeleisen, MD, PhD. Some years ago I became very briefly famous, in the libertarian community and the short-wave circuit, by starting a class-action lawsuit against the fed, asking the question "Who owns all that gold -- the fed, or the 'United States'?" And, if the 'United States' -- since the US Supreme Court says there are two of 'em -- the question continues with "Which one?". The suit was entirely quixotic of course, but it was sure a learning experience. RE: "Non-helical DNA", I wouldn't have dared to say it on that talk page, but this DNA structure has profound religious significance. I'm not saying that to promote the article. Because of the nature of this subject, I'm obligated to talk about it to anyone who is willing to listen.Voice of 5-23 (talk) 15:23, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Excerpt from WP:SEEALSO: "As a general rule the "See also" section should not repeat links which appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes." Editor2020 (talk) 02:44, 14 November 2012 (UTC)