Request

Please wrap the |footnotes= output in ((Center)) to center the tags within the bottom. BhamBoi (talk) 06:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the ((Edit template-protected)) template. You have not given a reason for why the footnotes should be centred, and I cannot think of a compelling reason to do so. Primefac (talk) 10:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think this improves the "Notes" section. Tested both the template and the div style in the sandbox here and here, but in both cases the "Notes" caption was forced to appear even when there were no footnotes, and the existing footnotes looked odd due to the centering effect. Even if the "Notes" caption could somehow be subdued when there are no footnotes, I would have to oppose this change. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 13:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just think it looks better (see Template:Infobox government agency use on Hawaiian Volcano Observatory) BhamBoi (talk) 17:05, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It might look a little better when the footnotes are enclosed in <ref></ref> tags, but I think it looks weird when the footnotes are written out, like they are on this template's test cases page. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 17:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What I had envisioned was exactly the way they are set out in the HVO article. See Draft:Kiguma Jack Murata where they are not centered, using this infobox. BhamBoi (talk) 17:25, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Using template wrapper

This template currently calls Template:Infobox person manually. For every parameter that is desired, an editor needs to:

I propose that we can enable all parameters currently Template:Infobox person for this while simplifying the code for the template, by using Module:Template wrapper (currently in the sandbox). This proposed change does not alter existing infoboxes: the appearance, warning messages, and error tracking categories remain the same. It just enables any parameter in Template:Infobox person to be used, with correct error checking. Further, if a parameter gets added to Template:Infobox person in the future, it will be inherited by Template:Infobox scientist without more editor intervention. The information box at the top of Template:Infobox scientist/doc will be updated to tell editors that any Infobox person parameter works.

What do editors think of this proposal? — hike395 (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Implemented --- no objections after 7 days. — hike395 (talk) 10:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add a "Notable works" parameter

I request that a Notable works parameter be added to separate a subject's publications from being parsed into the "Known For" parameter. GuardianH (talk) 16:06, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Influences/influenced

I propose to remove these highly questionable infobox parameters that usually have unsourced lists never mentioned in the main text. The same change was done for Infobox philosopher, see discussion there. Artem.G (talk) 20:01, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Influences: Sadi Carnot, Rudolf Clausius, Julius von Mayer, James Joule, Humphry Davy. Here I would agree with Carnot as being a major influence, as Kelvin was basically a fan of his. Clausius was a contemporary and there was a more complicated interplay between them. The influence from the rest is mentioned in the text, but in the infobox we lose the context.
Influenced: Andrew Gray. He was Kelvin's assistant, published his collected scientific works, succeeded his chair, and continued his electromagnetic research. 'Influenced' is a mild way of putting it. But why include only this one person, since Kelvin's influence on various fields of physics was huge? Jähmefyysikko (talk) 20:19, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This does not look like abuse/fluff to me. Bardeen has one name, Schroedonger none, Heisenberg three. Let sleeping dogs lie, I remain opposed. Ldm1954 (talk) 20:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In Bardeen's case the 'influence' from Van Vleck is that Bardeen was his student and later recruited him. It is a significant connection between two nobelists, but one could also use the field Other academic advisors, which would be symmetric with Van Vleck page where Bardeen is listed as Other notable students. The people Heisenberg influenced were Döpel and von Weizsäcker. Von Weizsäcker was advised by Heisenberg (according to article), and can be included in the infobox under more accurate field. In Döpel's case 'influence' seems to mean that they collaborated in academia, and worked together in Uranverein. It is a very ambiguous field. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 21:17, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
another examples are Newton and von Neumann. Artem.G (talk) 21:40, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - In consistency with the philosopher infobox and anticipation of any potential overlap; while this one may be less historically prone to abuse, I still don't really see any good reason to have it. - car chasm (talk) 18:23, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

minus Removed The "influenced"/"influences" fields will now disappear from the infoboxes. Articles which use them will appear in Category:Pages using infobox scientist with unknown parameters. — hike395 (talk) 23:44, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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