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Has anybody found out what platform(s) this game will be coming out for? Frohike14 (talk) 22:46, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
There is an optionable online, but other then that I have it on PS3, and I know for a fact it is on X-Box and PC Benners88 (talk) 00:12, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
The game is listed as being available on OS X with a port by Feral Interactive, however it is not sold on Steam, nor it's DLC for anything other than Linux and Microsoft Windows. Should this be noted? Was it available on Steam on release and has changed since? Cheers, 60.225.129.14 (talk) 13:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm going to remove references to the game being an RTS or an RPG. The sources cited for these statements (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/24/dissecting-a-classic-how-to-modernize-x-com.aspx for RTS, http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/20/sid-meier-talks-xcom-enemy-unknown.aspx for RPG) do not support those assertions. The strategy element is discussed by the lead designer in the first interview at about 5:45 and "real-time" is not mentioned. Furthermore, this source http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/01/09/first-screens-and-details-of-xcom-enemy-unknown.aspx says "So this is some kind of RTS?" to which the answer is "No". The RPG elements are discussed very briefly in the second interview, but Sid Meier does not assert that the game is an RPG, just that they hope it will appeal to RPG fans because it bears some resemblance to an RPG, which is an important distinction. If there is any actual evidence that the game has RTS or RPG features, then please do share it - but I've not been able to find any so I feel comfortable saying that given the current evidence, including it in the article is misleading. --FangXianfu (talk) 19:45, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm happy on balance changing the reference in the header to the game being an RPG to calling it a TRPG to match the sidebar, rather than removing the statement all together. Reading the TRPG article, calling it that is supported by the sources. --FangXianfu (talk) 19:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to add strategy video game to the title and sidebar to replace RTS. It does have strategic elements, it's the "real-time" part that's incorrect. --20:00, 27 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FangXianfu (talk • contribs)
Of course it's not RTS, but the strategy is not turn based neither - it's pretty much like the original UFO. I think the tactical RPG elements are about how there are these few individual soldiers who get customized, which is pretty much like in (also mentioned) Silent Storm or Valkyria Chronicles. --Niemti (talk) 20:20, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes, exactly! Sorry for taking such a circuitous route in my comments above ;) I think it's at an accurate genre list now - that is, turn-based tactics, for the combat, tactical rpg, for the squad development between missions, and strategy (but not TBS or RTS specifically) for the resource management. Definitely better than saying RTS, TBT and RPG all at once! --FangXianfu (talk) 20:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xcom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.168.88 (talk) 20:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Only 20 of them display for some reason. --Niemti (talk) 19:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
I just restored the source for the Play Magazine review score - it was replaced with a CN template. The source for the score is this page[1] (name=RevPlayMag in the article). Please don't remove the citation again - the score is right at the bottom of the copy, in the same (quite small) font as the section headings. Thanks! --FangXianfu (talk) 07:42, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't think there's any virtue in merely repeating content in the copy that's already in the vg reviews template. If there was more to say about the scores - an interesting quote, something to tie the scores into a theme, anything really - then that would be okay, but simply repeating the same stuff defies the point of having the vg reviews sidebar in the first place. Also, repeating it just means it has to be maintained in two places. Hence, I've removed the repetition. --FangXianfu (talk) 15:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sven Manguard (talk · contribs) 03:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to do a summary fail on this nomination, as is permitted in the GAN guidelines.
This should not have been nominated at GAN while there is a valid "Needs Expansion" tag on one of the sections. The article is incomplete at this stage, and therefore fails criteria 3a.
Please refile after an expand the section has been made. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
I've felt for some time like the Plot section needs something about the game's atmosphere as well as the facts of what happens, because the actual plot missions and research are only a tiny part of the experience of playing the game, in contrast to lots of other games. A lot of previews have talked about how the game has a bleak atmosphere, putting the weight of command on the shoulders of the player, not having the advisors ever imply the commander might be making the wrong decision when he, say, lets a country leave the project. I've just put a first stab into getting a summary of that down, but I'm sure it could use improvement! --FangXianfu (talk) 19:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
That stuff belongs in gameplay (where it is now). --Niemti (talk) 19:44, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
It's that time of the year already. --Niemti (talk) 15:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk · contribs) 19:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Niemti, I'll be glad to do this review. As it happens, I was thinking of buying this one next week. As before, I'll note any initial issues here that I can't immediately fix, and then go to the checklist. Thanks for all your work. -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm happy to say that I don't see any issues that need addressing in this article, and can recommend it be listed as a GA without any further work. I'll do the formal checklist in a moment to make sure there's nothing I'm missing. I've done some minor copyediting, however, so please glance over my edits to make sure there's nothing I mis-corrected. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
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www.polygon.com/features/2013/1/31/3928710/making-of-xcoms-jake-solomon-firaxis-sid-meier --Niemti (talk) 07:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
I thought I disagreed at first, but according to the linked article Enemy Within is apparently going to be a standalone game at least on the console versions. If it's a standalone game for at least one platform I agree that qualify it for it's own wiki article. - 175.144.214.162 (talk) 01:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I noticed the release date for Enemy Within is listed here as being the 15th of November, I'm unsure as to whether this is also being released as a stand-alone game and whether this is the date of release for that version, but I just grabbed a pre-order of the DLC version on my copy of Steam and it repeatedly lists the release date as the 12th, not the 15th. Is this perhaps just two different dates of release for two different releases perhaps? Just thought maybe if someone could confirm this isn't just Steam bugging out then the article could be edited to reflect that date. Here's the page I'm referring to http://store.steampowered.com/app/225340/ it seems correct as far as I can tell.Charos (talk) 01:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Apple chose XCOM as a runner-up for its iPad game of the year.[4] I didn't add it to the article since I'm not sure if it's notable enough for this game. --Mika1h (talk) 21:54, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
My esteemed colleague, Bursting Red, added several categories to this article, such as Category: Video games set in the United States, Category: Video games set in Brazil and pretty much every other country where a mission can take place (e.g. Germany, United Kingdom, Japan, etc.). While I don't deny missions can take place in any of these areas, I reject the notion that this game is "set" in any of these areas. The mission "locations" are all very generic and are used interchangeably. There is nothing location- or country-specific about any of them (e.g. one location is a bridge, another a small strip mall, etc.). And in the game, the player may visit any or all of them, not just one of them. The setting for the game is Earth, not just one or a few countries.
This is not a big deal to me, but I wanted to discuss here so we can come to a consensus. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 15:21, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
It's not set in countries, it's set on on tactical maps that randomly happen to be attached to few countries on the globe map. The only real exception is stuff like the intro mission in Germany. --Niemti (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
The page spoke about 'the addictiveness' of the game, and quoting reviews for talking about 'how addictive it can be for the player'.
I think this is an unfortunate choice of words. I am aware that video game reviews use 'addictiveness' as a form of praise for games, and talk about their 'addiction' to a game only half in jest. In everyday language, however, addiction has very different connotations, and I think it is best to avoid describing a game as being 'addictive for the player'.
If there actually is a (sourced and relevant) basis for discussing whether XCOM can lead to actual addiction problems, this issue deserves more than a passing reference.
For that reason, I have removed the two references to addiction. I have not touched the quotes, since I don't consider these problematic (Quoting a reviewer describing a game as addictive is quite different from referring to reviews claiming the game is addictive. The former is within the context and language of a review, the latter implies that the reviewer is referring to actual addiction).
Dulkal (talk) 08:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit-war going on over describing the cover as an homage to Laser Squad. While I believe it to be true (I mean just look at it!) It would be helpful if we had a source that said so. At the moment though I'm not able to find any sources that are even remotely reliable that say so. Is anyone aware of any potential source for this? — Strongjam (talk) 16:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
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I have listed the article for GAR because I think it fails 1a and 3a. The article is extremely outdated and the entire reception section is a quote farm. While it is fine for a video game article to be promoted to GA merely months after release, Enemy Unknown happens to be an extremely influential title that has brought a new leash of life to a dying game genre. The article's current state, especially the outdated development section which does not incorporate long feature articles like these ones ([5][6][7][8]) did it no justice. pinging @SNAAAAKE!! and Khazar2:, the original contributor and GA reviewer. OceanHok (talk) 17:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Now no-one's edited this article since my previous comment in this page. Iias!:,,.:yyI 01:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)