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In addition to other changes, I should point out I added info on the FDR. I was careful to phrase in a way that says that the FDR "recorded" the TL's position as such, and that the spoilers did not deploy (but not saying that that's what caused the crash). I am looking, however, for a graph that's roaming around depicting the effect of spoilers in the braking run of an A320--showing how most of the braking action during the first few seconds of the landing run is almost exclusively a result of aerodynamic forces, and that only below 80 or so knots that the mechanical breaking (wheels) take over most of the braking.--Dali-Llama 01:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I believe the proper term to describe the deviation from the runway course sould be "veering left" and not "bearing left". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.180.20 (talk) 18:10, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
This article reads quite well, but there are two problems:
I'm putting this article on hold as the article is close to GA status, however the issues noted above must be dealt with before GA status can be awarded. I hope that this can be addressed within the seven days allowed by on hold, and wish you all the best with your editing... -- Johnfos 10:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that... yes, I think lowercase would be better... Johnfos 08:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks... GA awarded... Johnfos 11:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if flight chronology currently deserves its own section. Epbr123 10:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
1 link removed - CCTV footage - No indication from clip information or uploader profile that uploader has rights to footage concerned is conected to the production entity responsible for it. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:37, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I read the Crash section twice - I still don't understand why the plane crashed. 85.227.226.235 (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The basic idea of the crash explanation is "The left engine was left at idle, since it could not reverse thrust. Also, it was set to climb, but idle. The pilots assumed the other engines would reverse thrust, but with one engine set to climb, there reverse thrust did not automatically occur. When the pilots increased thrust from other engines , aiming to increase reverse thrust, they increased speed , and differential thrust occured because the left engine was left at idle. Different thrust is a form of steering. With the plane increasing speed above suitable landing speeds, the wheels ,flaps and rudder steering and braking systems became ineffective. The steering caused by differential thrust steered the airplane off the runway, and a severe crash occurred as it ran into airport related buildings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.33.42 (talk) 01:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Here are Anynobody's models for the planes: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Anypreview.png WhisperToMe (talk) 06:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Did Flight 3054 hydroplane? The article mentions no runway grooves had been added, and this accident looks just like Lufthansa Flight 2904. Same type plane, also on a wet runway. Anynobody 04:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree that in and of itself hydroplaning would be a minor factor, however one of the things that went wrong on the Lufthansa flight was a quirk in the A320's conditions for deploying the spoilers. The computer would deploy them if a certain amount of weight was detected by compression of shock absorbers within each main gear strut, which caused one of the struts not to register correctly when the wheels it was attached to were hydroplaning. In that case, had the spoilers deployed I doubt the outcome would've been a crash. I guess my question is more did Airbus remove that prerequisite from preventing deploying the spoilers. We'll have to wait for the report I suppose. Anynobody 05:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The Official Report into the accident has been released. It is in Portuguese only. Mjroots (talk) 06:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
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In Mayday S11E01, Deadly Reputation a.k.a. Reputation's disaster, they mentioned, that the old way of reverse-throttling, which is: first working reverse thrust to full rev, then malfunctioning one to ilde, is more efficient tham pulling both thrust leavers to the back. What does cause that? They did not explain that in mayday. --87.165.105.227 (talk) 19:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)ß (written on OTG+Bluetooth OTG keyboard]].
On the Finnish/Suomi page and when I translate it, it said that there was two French nationals, and one each from Argentina, Portugal, and Peru. Is that true or is it a unreliable source? 73.87.74.115 (talk) 13:15, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
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As marked in boldface: "For federal prosecutors, the former director of ANAC Denise Abreu and then flight safety officer of the company, Marco Aurelio dos Santos de Miranda, should be convicted of attempt on air transport security in willful mode. [...] The investigation of the Airbus TAM accident, which killed 199 people in Congonhas, revealed that in February 2007, the São Paulo federal judge Cecilia Marcondes, who saw action restricting the landing planes in Congonhas on rainy days, received Denise Abreu one of ANAC document like a standard," Autodidact1 (talk) 02:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: result of the discussion."Dead page move discussion" Username006 (talk) 04:14, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
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– These two pages should be renamed to these titles because it would simply make a lot more sense to the Brazilian wikipedians as in not letting the names mix up. It would be consistent with other articles such as Gol Linhas Aéreas Flight 1907 or TAM Transportes Aéreos Regionais Flight 402. I doubt that TAM Airlines was what the airline was called so. I don't think it was called so until LATAM Airlines came into play. Even ASN mentions it is TAM Linhas Aéreas. This is why I think it should be called so. Username006 (talk) 06:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC) Username006 (talk) 06:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
@MilborneOne: Then why are the other accidents named in Brazilian? Shouldn't those also be named with the same ones? Username006 (talk) 14:47, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
The TAM Express building sustained structural damages that determined its demolition) produced by a government agency that does not normally use English, thus I would argue that it is not a definitive English-language source. Carguychris (talk) 16:56, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
@Dhaluza: ch.aviation mentions it as TAM Linhas Aéreas here: [1] Username006 (talk) 08:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
@Dhaluza: So does this book: [2] Username006 (talk) 09:20, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm waiting for a response.Username006 (talk) 04:49, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm waiting for a response please respond! Username006 (talk) 04:05, 3 August 2021 (UTC)