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Because of my direct involvement in the website which is the subject of this article, I will give 4 weeks notice here of my proposed changes to the content either to correct existing content or update the article with new information. I will make the changes after the 4 week notice period if no other editor has dealt with the proposed changes. The slimmed down version of the article is undoubtedly much tidier, better written, more professionally presented and is now compliant with Wikipedia standards and guidelines. All due credit to Eustress. It is however in my humble opinion no where near as informative as the [article as it was on 30 April 2009].
I propose some minor changes to the current article. I would like to amend the last sentence of the opening paragraph by adding the word "outlet" so that it says: The site has been oft quoted in news sources and is known for its activities as an internet leak outlet and a forum for Shell whistleblowers.
If preferable, "outlet" could be "source".
I propose to amend the following sentences from the second paragraph of "Website background" which currently state: A second writ was issued concerning a Nintendo promotion that ran in 1993.[8]. Shell settled both claims in October 1996.[9] A third law suit was processed in 1999; however, the claimant abandoned the claim.[10]
Proposed:
Two further writs were issued, one concerning a Nintendo game and the other, a promotion called "Now Showing". Shell settled both claims in October 1996. A fourth law suit was processed in 1999. Although a joint press release announced that the claimant had abandoned the claim, according to a magazine article published in February 2007, Shell settled out of court "as part of a "peace treaty".
The verification links would be inserted in the proper fashion.
The Prospect magazine article was written by Derek Brower, senior correspondent of Petroleum Economist. This followed a long interview conducted at our home where he looked at many documents to verify our account of events. Johnadonovan (talk) 08:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Proposed further corrections 23 June 2009:
I propose to correct the grammar in this sentence by deleting the word "are": It avoids being an illegal cybersquatter as long as it is non-commercial, active, and no attempt are made to sell the domain name, as determined by WIPO proceedings.
The sentence below relating to Sakhalin-II contains incorrect information. I supplied the information to the Russian government, not Shell. I have not got a clue about the reference to an article published on October 18, 2006.:
On October 18, 2006, the site published an article stating that Shell had for some time been supplying information to the Russian government relating to Sakhalin II.[18] The Russian energy company Gazprom subsequently obtained a 50% stake in the Sakhalin-II project.[19]
Proposed revision:
Oleg Mitvol, the so-called "Kremlin attack dog", confirmed that he received insider evidence about the Sakhalin-II project from John Donovan of the website royaldutchshellplc.com. The Russian energy company Gazprom subsequently obtained a 50% stake in the Sakhalin-II project.[19]
I will provide verification links to the agreed format confirming the cited information.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2006/oct/04/russia.oilandpetrol
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=8209
http://www.shellnews.net/images/Mitvol.pdf
That ends proposed corrections. Johnadonovan (talk) 12:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I missed some incorrect information in the first paragraph. It currently says:
royaldutchshellplc.com is a Royal Dutch Shell gripe site operated by Alfred and John Donovan, who engaged in several marketing campaigns with Shell during the 1980s.
I propose the following:
royaldutchshellplc.com is a Royal Dutch Shell gripe site operated by Alfred and John Donovan, who engaged in several marketing campaigns with Shell during the 1980s and early 1990s, ending with a Star Trek themed promotion in 1991. Johnadonovan (talk) 22:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I draw attention to the fact that my father Alfred Donovan passed away in 2013 as can be confirmed from The Guardian article "Strange tale of Shell's pipeline battle, the Gardaí and £30,000 of booze". Please forgive me for errors and omissions and for not signing off correctly. I no longer remember what to do and since I have no intention of adding content myself here or on any other Wikipedia page, there seems little point in learning again just for this brief notice. Johnadonovan --Johnalfreddonovan (talk) 13:12, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
I thought it had been agreed after a referral to the COI notice board that I would give four weeks notice here on proposed changes to the article and that if no one objected, I would then make the changes. The editor known as Eustress has prescribed otherwise. He appears from his editing record to have a special interest in articles relating to Shell. My background is open and declared. I have always added content in my own name. I would be grateful if an editor would consider ((Request edit)) the proposed items 1, 2 and 3 above and either add the content or authorise me to do so installing verification links in the format already set. Johnadonovan (talk) 15:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Given the COI of the major editor and in accordance with WP:BEFORE, I am planning to turn this into a stub - any comments ? Codf1977 (talk) 15:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
It seems that this story by Reuters, this one by The Times, and this one by Guardian establish the notability of Donovans and Shell relations. I also think that the story about Shell's employees' database leak published by The Times and other sources is worth of mentioning in this article. Beagel (talk) 10:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)