Rebel Moon

User:InfiniteNexus has changed the title back to Rebel Moon claiming it's not the official title. Rebel Moon is divided into two parts, the first part is titled "A Child of Fire". It's basically like Harry Potter 7 and 8. Even Netflix makes it clear these are actual titles for the parts (https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/rebel-moon-release-date-photos).

Start your hunt into the mysteries of Rebel Moon when Part 1, titled Rebel Moon — Part One: A Child of Fire, lands on Dec. 22. Rebel Moon Part Two: The Scargiver will follow very soon after, streaming on Netflix on April 19, 2024.

Also InfiniteNexus, you did not try to ask for any consensus before changing the title. The title had been there without any issue until you changed it. Please seek a consensus first. Linkin Prankster (talk) 04:43, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus is not required to do something; however, consensus can reverse an action if editors agree that the action was misguided or inappropriate. I did my research before making the move, and all evidence points to Rebel Moon being the actual title:
  • The film's poster and logo, while missing a billing block, use Rebel Moon
  • The trailer on YouTube uses Rebel Moon in the title
  • The film's socials continue to use Rebel Moon as its display name and in its bio
  • The official press site and Tudum use Rebel Moon
  • The press release you cited above refers to the film releasing in December as Rebel Moon in all instances except once in the final paragraph
  • In virtually every news article covering the trailer, the film is still referred to as Rebel Moon except maybe once at the end, so this remains the WP:COMMONAME.
Until a billing block is released, we have to go with the evidence we currently have. As of now, the overwhelming evidence points to Rebel Moon being the correct title. "Part One" subtitles as a stylization or for marketing purposes are not exactly uncommon. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rebel Moon is the title of the combined film consisting of two parts. It's not that hard to understand. It's your WP:BURDEN to seek a consensus for a controversial change given no one else has had a problem with the title and it's been there for a while. I'm going to seek a RfC on the title. Linkin Prankster (talk) 05:21, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Btw as for your evidence:
  • The poster is actually from before the titles for both parts were revealed, the poster was released in July 2023.
  • The trailer clearly says "Part 1: A Child of Fire" releases on December 22, 2023 and "Part 2: Scargiver" on April 18, 2024.
  • The film's socials are for both parts and were set up before the title reveals.
  • The official press site and Tudum's Rebel Moon information predates Gamescom.
  • I don't know why you keep ignoring my press release clearly says Rebel Moon is divided into two parts: Start your hunt into the mysteries of Rebel Moon when Part 1, titled Rebel Moon — Part One: A Child of Fire, lands on Dec. 22. Rebel Moon Part Two: The Scargiver will follow very soon after, streaming on Netflix on April 19, 2024.
  • Every news article clearly says Rebel Moon is divided intp two parts. Linkin Prankster (talk) 05:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Whoa, hold your horses! Do NOT start an RfC, that is contrary to the purpose and procedure of an RfC. FYI, you are permitted by WP:BOLDMOVE to revert my move while we discuss here. WP:BURDEN is about added unreferenced content to article, and in any case, I have listed my sources. As for your rebuttals, I am not denying that Part 1 is called A Child of Fire. I am saying even though such title exists in marketing materials, evidence points to the fact that the "official" title of the film is just Rebel Moon. The Twitter bio literally says War Comes to Every World. REBEL MOON. December 22. Only on Netflix. (bolding my own). Nowhere online can I find a logo with a subtitle, and the Tudum page was clearly updated after the trailer was released. And finally, to reiterate, the press release you cited says [...] before Rebel Moon lands on Dec. 22 and [...] Rebel Moon premieres on Dec. 22 before mentioning the subtitles once in the final paragraph. Again, I would like to point out that Dune was also known as Dune: Part One, and F9 was also marketed as F9: The Fast Saga. Neither of those were the official titles. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:35, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's not, especially since it's clear early on only a consensus can resolve this. Besides I think it's important we have the whole community comment on the matter of titles for multi-part films as it doesn't comcern just one. Rebel Moon was used as the title before the first part of the title was revealed, I don't know why you don't understand that.
The final reveal of the trailer is a tantalizing one: the announcement of the two Rebel Moon films’ release dates. Rebel Moon — Part One: A Child of Fire hits Netflix this Dec. 22, but the story doesn’t end there — only four months later (April 19, 2024, to be exact), Rebel Moon Part Two: The Scargiver arrives to close the loop.
This is from Netflix's press release about the Gamescom trailer. Linkin Prankster (talk) 06:42, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RfC for title

The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Speedily closed. Please continue the discussion above. An RfC is not appropriate at this stage per WP:RFCBEFORE, when barely any discussion has occurred. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]



Hello, recently during Gamescom Netflix revealed the title of first two parts of Rebel Moon as "A Child of Fire" and "Scargiver". User InfiniteNexus changed the title back to Rebel Moon from Rebel Moon: Part One – A Child of Fire, insisting that it's only a marketing/onscreen title and not an official one. However Rebel Moon is the title of the whole story divided into two parts. It's also being called a film in itself despite being divided into two parts [1].

The recent Netflix release makes this clear: Start your hunt into the mysteries of Rebel Moon when Part 1, titled Rebel Moon — Part One: A Child of Fire, lands on Dec. 22. Rebel Moon Part Two: The Scargiver will follow very soon after, streaming on Netflix on April 19, 2024. [2].

The Gamescom trailer on YouTube clearly says "Part 1: A Child of Fire" releases on December 22, 2023 and "Part 2: Scargiver" on April 18, 2024.

Virtually every evidence InfiniteNexus has used to claim the official title is Rebel Moon is either before Gamescom or he's misunderstanding that it's using Rebel Moon for the film divided into two parts. But we even if we don't create articles for separate parts of the same film story, we never use the title of the whole story of multiple parts for a single part. You wouldn't call Batman: The Dark Knight Returns - Part 1 as Batman: The Dark Knight Returns.

So I suggest this article either be only for the first part and the title Rebel Moon: Part One – A Child of Fire be restored, or this article represent both the parts and not just the first one (at least until the second part can be considered notable enough to get its own article). Linkin Prankster (talk) 06:35, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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