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Racialization is obviously a more important topic than Racial formation theory which is just one theory. This article is terrible though. 81.187.223.119 (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Sociobabble This article is garbage. I will delete it in one week’s time unless someone persuades me not to. Grounds: I know nothing of the subject matter, but that is not a problem, because the article contains self-contradictory statements that must be false regardless of the meaning of the words used. So the article is invalid on purely logical grounds. Proof: 1. “Racialization thus signifies the extension of dehumanizing and racial meanings to a previously racially unclassified relationship” Wikipedia, Racialization
2. “Race is a classification system used to categorize humans” Wikipedia, Race (human classification)
Argument: “Dehumanizing and racial” is self-contradictory, because “racial” is a term that can be applied only to humans. Something can be either dehumanizing or racial, but not both.
Conclusion: The definition that this article provides of it subject matter is self-contradictory and consequently illogical. Consequently no such subject matter can exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mumbo-jumbophobe (talk • contribs) 20:59, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused about how this is considered. Aren't they a part of the same process? Is there a significant distinction? NittyG (talk) 19:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
I will be working to make this article stronger by adding solid examples on applications of racialization. I am also going to relate race and racialization with the concept of Islamophobia, studying the difference of antisemitism.
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Criticalracetheorist1 (talk) 17:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
This article needs work and can be improved by adding more examples on the applications of racialization. It would also be beneficial to expand on racial controversies while relating race with Isalmophobia. In addition, studying the differences of antisemitism would serve to strengthen the article as well.
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Criticalracetheorist2 (talk) 19:36, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
No criticism on the concept? No different opinions on the process, or the merits of the concept? No opposing views among academics or elsewhere? Also, the multiple sub-sections are pretty formulaic and text-book materials, for ideological schools of thought promoting particular views of the concept. (It seems that the material presently in the article was created primarily by students of some particular course on the subject, as part of a class assignment?) And apparently there was no 'racialization' before the 19th century? And it was all done by European imperialist-colonizers and nobody else, at all, ever? There is no previous case of 'racialization', or anything comparable to it, in all of human history? Ever? Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.197.139.214 (talk) 09:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
I have found very little to recommend this word or concept. Though it is in use, mostly in the jargon-laced babbling of race theorists, it is of questionable provenance. I do not recommend its deletion since apparently that subject has been considered, though it probably should be. I do recommend adding material on its history and use. What is here is atrocious, poorly written, badly explained, basically following its use in the articles in which I’ve seen it used. I can do it, but, first, I’m not sure I care that much about the psychomythological dopey lexicon of the racialist ideologues plaguing both academe and the politico sphere.
Second, restraining my obvious contempt for the subject might color the addition. Wiki is already rife with leftist bias that causes it to be held in low esteem by anyone with a modicum of sense, concern over polluting it might be a needless worry. Still it might be better if someone else tried to pursue the suggestion if he shares the view. Sych (talk) 03:46, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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Asking for one or two Administrator's monitoring, to ensure the article is not mismanaged. 2607:FEA8:E09D:C410:68F3:A723:3123:808B (talk) 06:38, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Ok, big problems here.
The article does not make clear enough that racialization is a concept within sociology and a framework through racial issues are understood, as opposed to a consensus-reified racial mechanism. The article repeats way too many contentious views unattributed in wikivoice. Lots of undue weight given to singular analyses and views, particularly in the history section. Lots of weasel words like in "The racialization of labor is said to involve the segregation and appointment of workers based on perceived ethnic differences." Loads of original research like "The numbers are much more alarming for African Americans behind bars; nearly 1 in 15 African Americans are incarcerated and more narrowly 1 in 9 African American men are incarcerated.[23] These numbers point to an obvious discrimination towards blacks in the U.S. criminal justice system." The cited source is not about racialization. This is an editor's original research. Zanahary (talk) 00:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
I changed the lede to the definition used in the books of Carlos Hoyt and Omi & Winant. Their definitions of racialization don't mention malicious intent. IP user who reverted it, can you explain why you want to use your preferred definition? I don't have DelaRosa's book so I can't see what it says on page 200, but I don't think one glossary item is enough to redefine this term. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 16:26, 11 January 2024 (UTC)