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I can confirm. This is so that readers know where compass north is, in relation to the actual orientation of the tracks. epicgenius (talk) 13:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In this case it should be added to the one in sutphin blvd also, alongside the changes made in the first comment. 1.02 editor (T/C) 13:52, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
'...that constructing a station at that location would prevent express service from operating past Continental Avenue.' To an average reader this sentence may be hard to undertsand. There is no other mention of continental avenue and it is unclear if the sentence is related to the next sentence (which i believe is the explanation to the reasoning in the first sentence).
I changed Continental to 71st to clear thigns up. What isn't clear?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Probably should be mentioned that 71st-Continental Avenues-Forest Hills was the former name of the station. epicgenius (talk) 13:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
most people outside of new york would not be able to establish the connection between continental street and the station as it is not widely used.
The front part of the August 1936 paragraph has no sources.
Yes it does. The "Men Toil Under The Earth" source also applies for that.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:02, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
'with the E terminating at one station and the F at the other' could you specify which service terminated at which station?
Listing the times which the part time token booth operates from is unnecessary.
Why do you think it is unnecessary?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This will come under WP:NOTGUIDE. Mentioning that there is a token booth can be encyclopedic but mentioning what time it is open is a guide, unless the operating hours has some significance which in this case I assume not. 1.02 editor (T/C) 13:52, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
How do you want me to detail the former hours of the entrances and the booth? I think that is important to underscore the expansion and reduction of hours.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for not dealing with this earlier. I have had a lot of school work. Do you also want me to change the access hours? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 10:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The current version seems ok to me but if you want to change it go ahead. Always good to be bold. 1.02 editor (T/C) 11:47, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hold
The article is already of quite good quality but there are still a few concerns that I have raised. I have put the article on hold while these are addressed. 1.02 editor (T/C) 12:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Is there anything else you would suggest I fix? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 13:20, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay but the article seems fine as of when i last looked through and all raised concerns have been resolved. Nice job with the articles in this topic. Passing. 1.02 editor (T/C) 14:31, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by — Amakuru (talk) 10:25, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1:... that plans for the New York City Subway's Parsons Boulevard station were changed at the last minute due to uncertainty about plans for the remainder of the line? Source: LI Daily Press 1
ALT1a:... that plans for the Parsons Boulevard station were changed at the last minute due to uncertainty about plans for the remainder of the subway line it was located on? Source: LI Daily Press 1
The article gained GA status on 25 September, and is plenty long enough. Both hook facts are appropriately cited inline to reliable online sources. Spotchecks show no evidence of copyvio or close para-phrasing. Good to go. Harriastalk 10:32, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Harrias: Thanks for the review. I revised ALT1 so it was less confusing, but is only two bytes larger. Can you approve or disapprove ALT1a? Thanks. epicgenius (talk) 13:08, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination was pulled from prep on October 29 when Gatoclass, who was checking the prep set in preparation to moving it to a queue, was unable to verify the hook. Gatoclass, is this still a problem? If so, which part of the ALT1 hook (which was the one promoted) is not verifiable? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:48, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you BlueMoonset, quite frankly I am astonished that I forgot to reopen this nomination, as I spent a lot of time going through the refs trying to extract the facts. As I recall, I didn't like either of the alts as I felt they were a misstatement of the sources, while the original hook was misleading because it implies the protests caused the delay, which they did not. However, I will now have to go back through the references again to recheck - my apologies for not following this up earlier. Gatoclass (talk) 14:17, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Having looked this over again, I still can't see any support in the supplied sources for the statement that plans for Parson's Boulevard were changed at the last minute "because of uncertainty" about plans for the remainder of the line. The board simply decided to have Parson's Boulevard as the last express stop, there was also some uncertainty about how to complete the remainder of the line, but the two appear to be unrelated. Apart from that, the alt hooks quite frankly are pretty uninteresting anyway, and my objection to the original hook still stands. So I think a new hook will be required here. Gatoclass (talk) 14:41, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have struck the hooks per Gatoclass, and pinged epicgenius's talk page. Looking forward to seeing a replacement hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:01, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Both are cited in the article. The first removes the implication that the station's specific construction was the cause of the delay. The second is a new tactic altogether (although ALT4 is sourced to an image citation, it is an official MTA document, otherwise this would be an offline source). epicgenius (talk) 17:13, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have trimmed ALT3 as I think the juxtaposition of the two facts just doesn't work (and delays in construction are not very interesting anyway), so that I can verify both ALT3 and ALT4. My apologies once again Epicgenius for the initial failure to follow up on this, I spent quite a lot of time reviewing the article and making tweaks to it, somewhere amongst all that it must have slipped my mind that I hadn't actually reopened the nomination! Gatoclass (talk) 10:33, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't think either hook is interesting, and ALT4 should say "1988" instead of "1989". I think ALT4 could be salvaged with one additional factoid:
ALT5: ... that the 1988 opening of New York City's Archer Avenue lines, expected to lessen congestion at the Parsons Boulevard station, ended up slashing the latter's ridership figures in half? Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, we can go with ALT5. epicgenius (talk) 23:53, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is a missing url in reference 41. Also, I notice that the DYK nomination - or perhaps the GA above it? - appears to be incorrectly transcluded on this page, is there someone more familiar with the code than me who can fix it? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]