Orange Line (MBTA) was one of the good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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I know what this means, but the Blue Line cars' passenger windows are like that too. The orange paint and cheesy faux woodgrain interiors really do make that amber/beige/whatever-it's-supposed-to-be stand out, and if you look into the windows of a passing car, it looks like the passengers are floating in a tankful of pee. Odd, that, since the old Bluebird cars on the Red Line are the ones that smelled like pee. --iMb~Meow 07:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Maps are needed to compare the Washington Street Elevated routing and stops with the Southwest Corridor routing and stops, and to compare the Charlestown Elevated routing and stops with the Haymarket North Extension routing and stops. -- Beland 20:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have photos of the old elevated sections? Service continued into the 1980s and 1970s, respectively. Dogru144 13:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
[2] mentions a third express track from Wellington to Community College. Perhaps this article should mention it, and talk about why it was built and how it was intended to be used. (It apparently has been used for testing new Blue Line cars recently, but I doubt that is why it was built.) JNW2 (talk) 00:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
It would be more accurate to take these times in the table from the published schedule, not from the distance between stations. -- Beland (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Should I make a route map using the Rail Icons for this route? --NYCTrainFan (talk) 21:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
The current route map that shows the former Charlestown and Washington Street elevateds is neat, but confusing. The historical routes look like branches, rather than separated by time.
I'd like to make a pretty radical change to the template. I propose making the main template a representation of the Orange Line in its current state, without the former elevated sections. I'd then like to make a series of historical templates - one with all three elevateds (including Atlantic Ave) from 1901 to 1938ish, a second one until 1954 with the Charlestown and Washington elevateds, then a third until 1987 with only the Washington El. This would eliminate confusion in the current template (which doesn't even show the Atlantic Ave route), and provide for a series of maps that would illustrate the history of the Orange Line (just stick them side by side in a new section in the article).
I'm willing to do the major work on this; I would put the old-route templates up first then modify the main one to minimize disruption. I can do it this weekend or before, but I'd like to see if there's consensus. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:34, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
I have formatting all set for the five historical route diagram templates; it can be viewed here. My preference is to put it in the article itself just before the station listing, but I could accept it as a standalone page. Thoughts? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:35, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
The route maps are very nice, but strangely omit any mention of the Green Line transfer points (at both Haymarket and North Station), while showing connections to the Red and Blue Lines appropriately. Also, in the infobox, the word "Legend" is repeated twice. I would fix them, but I'm afraid of breaking the maps. Much thanks go to User:Pi.1415926535 for his extensive route map work, as well as the many well-composed photos he has been contributing to Wikimedia Commons, allowing an upgrade of the MBTA articles' quality and visual appeal. --Reify-tech (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I believe that Haymarket North Extension should be merged into the main Orange Line article. This cam up during the discussions at Talk:Green Line (MBTA)#Re-split about the merging and splitting of the Green Line Extension. As the Haymarket North Extension is not its own line, and is only an extension of a currently line, I do not feel it warrants it's own article.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
The wiki entry reads:
"Cars throughout the Boston rapid transit network were formerly painted orange or with orange stripes by MBTA predecessors, and restored streetcars on the Ashmont-Mattapan High Speed Line wear their historical orange livery, but this is largely coincidental."
I'm debating whether this needs to be in the entry since the Mattapan trolleys connect to the RED line (not the Orange line) and the trolleys reflect the orange color that was used on all of the early 20th century trolleys throughout the entire system. The entry does say "this is largely coincidental," but it actually has nothing to do with the orange of the Orange line. In fact, the trolleys are more of a burnt orange color and not the pure orange of the Orange line cars. I'm interested in what other people think. 72.93.27.170 (talk) 22:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Designate (talk · contribs) 03:36, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
This isn't an optimally well-researched article, but it clearly fits the critera as written.
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Somehow the line diagrams omit North Station and list Anderson RTC instead. Anderson RTC is in Woburn, which makes that route an impressive feat of spatial distortion.
Seriously, I looked through the markup and it doesn't mention Anderson at all, while it does have North Station listed in the right place. However, the Read view says Anderson RTC.
Could someone who knows what they're doing check this out? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.17.205.153 (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Better sources, but that mostly illustrates the differences between "better" and "good." Sanborn has some standing, and this is early enough his later disability isn't a factor...but it's from 1992, and it's listed as "trivia." Trivia lists are notorious for folklore and back-formation, even...no, especially...within an organization; compare the tripe about flags ang flagpoles among soldiers. This was supposedly a memnonic, so it should have been publicized contemporaneously.Anmccaff (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC) PS: As a rider of the '60s blue line, moving on clapped-out cars through tunnels that suggested they were built by medieval sappers, the last thing a passenger wanted to be reminded of was that they were going under the harbor. Anmccaff (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
The Washington Street Orange line travels through a section of Boston originally named Orange.Folklore if ever I saw it, and the whole Trivia section suggests a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek. Anmccaff (talk) 19:50, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Becuase the new Orange and Red Line trains are coming out and it’s the same stock on both lines someone should create a new article about the new trains. RedProofHill123 (talk) 17:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC) RedProofHill123 (talk) 17:08, 15 January 2018 (UTC)Or they ca add the template to the rolling stock in the orange line article
I'm wondering if the article would be improved by geographically accurate maps showing the difference between the Charlestown Elevated alignment and the current north end of the line, as well as a similar map for the Washington Street Elevated vs the Southwest Corridor. The article discusses the differences (especially for the southern change and how is spawned the Washington Street Silver Line), but this is a place where "show, don't tell" would be a major enhancement to comprehensibility to readers unfamiliar with Boston geography, especially its rather irregular street layout. The route diagrams list the changes in stations, but give no sense of geographic scale of distances. oknazevad (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Why did the new CRRC trains replace the older 01200 series? Clrichey (talk) 06:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)