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I re-looked on the show on Season 1, and it said Tosca AND Mozart gave birth to 4 pups. Please post some names. I thought of Mason and Redneck.Mitchlover11 17:45, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I know Mozart had Sparkle, Spud, and Sophie. her other one, I don't know. Tosca had Jogu and McMurphy, I dont know the other two. I'll try to go find them. Mattkenn2 18:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
No its, Mozart, Sparkle, Sophie, Spud, Rufus, and Tosca, Jogu, Mc.Murphy and Lina Isabella 15:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Meerkat manor 2
Proof would be nice Cruise meerkat 23:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Besides, Rufus is a meerkat named very recently. I have proof of that. It is not Mozart's. Cruise meerkat 01:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I thought that the Vivian are the Vivian and the Commandoes are the Commandoes, two distinct groups. What eidence is there that they are two names for one group? See Meerkat Manor#Meerkat groups under study. Anthony Appleyard 22:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
heres how it goes, Commandos not Commandoes, Commandos are split of from Vivian, and havnt been back together for 1 year, so they are now enimy gangs, thx, Isabella 15:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC) meerkat manor 2
Commandos are their own group, formed in 2004. Vivian are the Commandoes on the show, as Jim Bob("Hannibal") is the only one eyed dominant male. Cruise meerkat 00:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes they are real look at my page MeerkatManorMoreInfo 23:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
yes the Stakies are real Isabella 15:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
No they are not real Cruise meerkat 23:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC) Yes they ar they are on wiki and KMP, sorry- MMMI
No they aren't. There is no mob called Starkies. It is the Starsky. Cruise meerkat 01:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Mary-Pat is not in the Gattaca. The KMP gallery shows the native mob, and Mary-Pat and her sisters Zorilla and Klinky formed the Commandos. So she is a member of the Commandoes(Starkies in season 3) Cruise meerkat 14:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
No cruise your wrong, Mary-Pat is in the Gattaca and is not in the Stakies in Whiskers and Gattaca, Her sisters are Zorilla, Klinky and Ketamine yes, but she's in the gattaca Isabella 15:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC) meerkat manor 2
Ketamine is Zorilla's daughter, and Mary-Pat formed the Commandoes with her sisters Zorilla and Klinky. I will give you proof in a second. -Cruise_meerkat not logged in
ohhh sorry but i just foung it out... MaryPat is in 3 clans, Commandos, Gattaca, and Whiskers!!!!!!!!!! Isabella 02:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Gattaca is her native mob. KMP lists them. Zaphod is in the Whiskers yet they say he's in the Vivian, if you need proof of that. Marypat Whiskers is not really Marypat Whiskers, she has a real name. Marypat is her stage name. Cruise meerkat 00:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC) I know, what is her real nme
She never had a real name. She died very early on. She had a number, though. I am unsure of what the number is, I might be able to pinpoint it. Cruise meerkat 01:28, 10 August 2007 (UTC) Yes i know, so what is her real name u said u knew it? i am clumbsy i thaught u said Mango - Mango_Kat
Haha, Mango's real name is Bananas and I share her birthday. Just had to say that. 'Marypat' Whiskers never had a name. She died early on. Her number was VWF082. Cruise meerkat 02:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
So....the season 3 episode 1...On Dangerous Ground...can someone verify this info? I would suspect the Starkies(Commandoes in KMP) would be introduced, because they were talked about a lot. Yes, I did see the sneak peek, but I don't see anywhere where it says anything about the Zappa or the title. -Cruise_meerkat not logged in
What about the Zappa Lola leads fine, the Stakies are real and are mentioned meerkat manor 2
Never mind, I found the episode on AP, the Whiskers and Zappa fight and Flower's pups go missing. The Starkies are not in MM2, they will be a new group(The Commandos are the KMP name) shown in season 3. -Cruise_meerkat not logged in
i haven't been on the computer for a month, and could someone please catch me up on Season 3. i read earlier info, but don't know if true or not. MITCHLOVER11---not signed in
I think we should delete discussion topics that aren't needed. ((((mitchlover11)))-not signed in
hello everyone, my account got deleted again for some reason and now i'm Mattkenn4. I'm the same person as mattkenn, mattkenn2, and mattkenn3, but now i'm mattkenn4Mattkenn4 22:00, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I fixed it, I'm mattkenn3 again. I should stay this way for a while.Mattkenn3 01:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Who keeps deleting the Third Season Info? This is meerkat manor, and the info has a proven source and should not be deleted. Please DO NOT DELETE!!Mitchlover11 19:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/meerkat/episode/season3.html Cruise meerkat 02:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
DO NOT EDIT ANY OF THIS INFO! A lot of my stuff us edited, these are the litters of Flower and Youssarian:
1. Big Will(only survivor)
2. Tosca(few others)
3. (most likely FxY but may be FxZ)Shakespeare, Mozart, Einstein(roved to Young Ones), Freud(died)
Daisy may also be in one of these, but her mother is most likely Tosca(she had a litter before the show)
Once again, do not edit any of this. Cruise meerkat 22:10, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
I have been watching Seasons 1 and 2, and that info is probably true except Daisy. When Mozart was preganet, the narrator stated that tempers were running high between and Mozart and her sister Daisy. Most likely, Daisy is in one of the last litters fathered by Yousarrian. I've also noticed that they stated Flower has been preganet 15 times, but this was before she had Milly,Shelly, and Bing. So all together in her life she has been preganet 19 times.Mitchlover11 18:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Remember, you can never trust MM. Look at what they did with "Shakespeare". It was not him in the burrow, fighting with the Lazuli. ~Cruise_meerkat not logged in
Well i'm pretty sure this is true. They probably count all th number pregancy's each female has at KMP.Mitchlover11 20:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Yeah but you can go to the AP forums and pronker or ccatz or maybe nikitacommando1 will answer your question. Or perhaps someone else. But somehow everyone has been convinced that Daisy is Tosca's daughter. Cruise meerkat 01:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Don't beleive what everyone says. They are not one of the people who work on ap or kmp. Right now we have to go on the info ap and kmp give us. Those people probably don't really know. They just are trying to make something up. BTW, do you have a account on the ap forums? I do it's mitchlover11, but it haven't gone one for a a while.Mitchlover11 17:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Pronker is the most informative person I know. She hasn't lied yet(I've been able to prove some of the stuff). And yes, I do. If you see some of my posts its fairly easy to figure out, but I don't want to give myself away. Cruise meerkat 21:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I have found out that Flower has been preganet 19 times in her life. I will list 19 lines in this topic and PLEASE ONLY FILL IN THE BLANKS IF YOUR INFO IS KNOWN!!
1.) Big Will, Itchy, Scratchy, Thelma, Louise, Daisy(not the one of MM) and Skinner
2.) Tosca, unknown other
3.) Mozart, Shakespeare, Freud, Einstein
4.) Kinkajou, Rocket Dog, Super Furry
5.) Pooky, Kooky
6.) Monkulus, Pozzo, Zarathustra
7.) Mitch, Cruise, Hawkeye, Logan
8.) Machu Pichu, Ningaloo, Petra, unnamed deceased pup(known as Marypat on Meerkat Manor)
9.) Flo, Finn, Colombus and Basil(latter are dead or missing)
10.) Butch Cassidy, Alonzo Mourning, Bananas, Orinoco
11.) Blossom(deceased), Apollo(dead or missing), Wileykat, Cheetara, Panthro
12.) Billy, Miles, Baker, Ella
13.) Busta, Suggs, Izzy
14.) Rhogan Josh, Squig
15.) Rufus(died), Murray, Amira, Burdock
16.)
17.)
18.)
19.)
Mitchlover11 18:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I helped a bit, of course using stage names. I had a breakthrough last night when I was in bed last night when I figured out Kinkajou and Pooky's litter placement. Cruise meerkat 20:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I found out Big Will's siblings...surprised there are so many...link to the proof: http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=6941912904&f=2381948938&m=8851924119&r=6361946119#6361946119 : the post by "pronker" ~Cruise_meerkat not signed in
Have complete name list from KMP and it lists birthdays as well. I figured out stage names also. Flower apparently had only 15 litters, according to official data. Cruise meerkat 03:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
i re-did my user page. Can people look at it!!! Please!!Mitchlover11 22:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Have the Lazuli really gone missing??? Their name isn't on the list of meerakat group at ap. Do you think they died or left the area?Mitchlover11 17:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I think they'll be featured minorly throughout season 3. Cruise meerkat 19:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
okay. what is the real name of the new group starkies?????? Wasn't it Commandos, but it says the dominant female is from the Gattaca? I'm getting really confused by the number of groups and all of the new info coming out!!Mitchlover11 17:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
There was something about a letter. Apparently Starkies was a typo, and it is Starsky. The "Starkies" were said to be a new group, and the real Commandoes were the newest group we knew at that time. Cruise meerkat 19:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Hey, its Cruise_meerkat here on his new account. Any info he finds, he will post on this account's userpage. Meerkat Manor Correctly 03:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
People, stop removing the spoiler tag from the page. It has spoilers until the season finished showing. Also, here's a full episode 1 video from Discovery. Download it and press MM: http://video.discovery.com Meerkat Manor Correctly 15:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, someone was complaining because this article had spoilers in it and it said that if we are going to put spoilers in the article, then we should have a spoiler tag. Its just logic to me, I don't see why you would only put it on fiction. Cruise meerkat 21:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Spoiler tags just don't make any sense for non-fiction documentary content. If someone doesn't want to know how it ends, they shouldn't be reading the article, which is expected to contain details. Like Tony says, would you expect to see spoilers on other non-fiction content? Should we have a spoiler on WWII articles for people who don't yet know that Hitler kills himself in the end? Or how about a spoiler on the Iraq War for people who don't want to be "spoiled" about how it doesn't up going too well? --Cyde Weys 00:30, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
ww2 has already happened. the deal with meerkats season three has already happened but most people dont know how it happened and dont want to know.my mom didnt think this article would have spoilers for the new season.if its a tv show thats like a soap opera and you dont know what comes next and the suspense is the largest part,you dont want it spoiled..we need the spoiler template.67.185.182.69 18:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
saying that meerkat manor cant have spoilers because its real is like saying that a movie cant have spoilers because its already hit theaters.look,having, the spoiler template cant hurt-if you dont like it ignore it.im putting it back up.see,even though meerkat manor is non-fiction,it is a soap opera too,and soap opera plot details can be considered spoilers.67.185.182.69 21:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
This is common sense, people. Season 3 has not been shown anywhere and there is info I put up about season 3. It should have spoiloer tags because, well, it just makes no sense not to! Cruise meerkat 17:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
most people dont expect spoilers because they dont expect that people already know whats happned in season three,kind of like just before harry potter 7 was realesed-no one thought anyone knew spoilers but people did.i think we should have the spoiler tag because meerkat manor is a soap opera,too.its not just a documentary-its a soap opera.you can just ignore the spoiler tag also.67.185.182.69 22:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC) i think we should take this to the mediation commitee.they can decide what should be done with the spoiler tag.67.185.182.69 22:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Meerkat Manor is not a soap opera itself, its like a soap opera. It is not a documentary, its like one. It has fictional(well, more towards false) parts(ex. Shakespeare wasn't the babysitter in the Lazuli attack). Also, there are some parts not even mentioned on the show, such as a meerkat resembling Shakespeare being seen outside the reserve. You can't just see a few episodes to judge this show, its very complicated. You have to know it inside and out, which I do(or try as hard as I can to do). Cruise meerkat 01:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
i know that that isnt what wikipedia is about.think of it this way:is we had info about,for example, the new season of deadliest catch would we put the spoiler template?or would we not,just because it has real events?
you may not agree,but just for good measure,just to be sure,lets leave the spoiler page up,just until frifay at 8:30 pm new york time,ok?then we can take it down,just leave it till friday..67.185.182.69 02:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
how about this:how about we put the spoiler template just at the charecters section,because no one expects plot details there..everywhere else there are spoilers,it will say something about it being in season three.but in the charecters section it just sort of has plot details from season 3 mixed in.so can we just have the spoiler template there?67.185.182.69 03:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Clarityfiend, very much. Does this really affect the article? Maybe it's about time to stop arguing and start improving it. I've seen every episode of this show and it is a nature documentary, just written in a very clever and simple fashion. I'm not sure about the spoiler tag. It's just one person too keen on one policy or another person too keen on another policy. Thekittybomb 03:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
yes.67.185.182.69 04:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
from THIS VERY ARTICLE:Although the show has elements of a documentary, and is based on actual events, the narrative is presented in a style similar to a soap opera.67.185.182.69 03:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Why was the episode guide deleted? I look here whenever I forget something about the show, and now it's gone? Who deleted it? 63.24.111.163 20:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
... due to edit-warring. A request has been placed to have the article protected as there has been intense edit-warring, largely over the inclusion of the ((spoiler)) tag. A number of editors have exceeded their 3RR limit and have been final-warned. Time to discuss the matter here and reach some sort of consensus. When you're ready, either leave me a message or submit a request at WP:RPP. Thanks - Alison ☺ 04:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
((editprotected))
request
Under the paragraph for the Commandos, there is a spelling typo in the third sentence of the first paragraph:
They are a feirce bunch...
Whoever wrote this obviously forgot the "I before E except after C" rule; it should be "They are a fierce bunch..."
Einstein's real name is Logan. I have proof, but I am not at liberty to say it in public. If you can somehow get in touch with me in private, I will give it to you. Cruise meerkat 01:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Humans at the Kalahari Meerkat Project give them names. Animal Planet usually changes them for Meerkat Manor. Cruise meerkat 01:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Also, its quite important we know the real names. Since we won't refer to them with their numbers(ex. VCDM001 for Ketamine), we have to know their names. Cruise meerkat 01:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't even know the meaning of soap opera, despite my genius in school and meerkats themselves, I have no common sense and I'm usually left dumbfounded in common phrases. I try to give proper info on the meerkats. I've found a stable, updated-often, trustwirthy site to get info from. I will be more easily able to info. However, my digging has led me to continuous tears yesterday. Cruise meerkat 02:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Youssarian is either dead or roved off KRR. Cazanna died of TB. New dominants for the Lazuli are Aretha and her brother Padloper. Dominants for the Whiskers are Rocket Dog and Zarathustra, who will pribably be renamed because he has a long and confusing name. These are also some of the weirdest names I've heard at KMP, Annieannieannie and Hindu Floaty Thing. Cruise meerkat 02:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I can. I am not at liberty to say it in public. You will have to visit...Hmm...I will have to give it you in private somehow. Any suggestions and let me know. I have a forum that you could join and I could send a message to you, but I don't think advertising is allowed here. Cruise meerkat 02:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I suppose I can say it. At first, the main site was supposed to be secret, sort of. I guess now that they have discovered many fans relying on KMP site, they made an updated one for the meerkats and a seperate for research and such http://friends.kalahari-meerkats.com Cruise meerkat 02:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for writing what you did about the spoilers. I was innocently reading the Wikipedia page about Meerkat Manor, because I love the show. I had no clue there would be spoilers in the article, and I read something I didn't want to read at all. I stopped reading immediately, but now am spoiled. It doesn't matter whether it is fiction or not, or a documentary or not. The things being discussed haven't aired yet, thus they should have a spoiler warning for those of us who don't want to be spoiled. I never would've dreamed a Wikipedia article would've had spoilers. I am actually pretty upset right now because of reading what I did.
De la Soul's mother is Tosca. She had another litter besides the one on MM. The date matches De la Soul's birth. De la Soul is too young to be Daisy. Cruise meerkat 02:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
De La Soul is Tosca and some how Houdini's. But Mozart is Tosca's sister and the daisy that flower gave birth to is Tosca's mom, and the REAL daisy is Tosca's pup very cunfuzzled- Meerkat manor More info
De la Soul is MUCH too young to be Tosca. Houdini is a stage name. Mozart is not Tosca's littermate, but both are probably fathered by Youssarian. Can you verify, give a trustable site with proof, of the whole thing? Flower gave birth to Tosca, that's proven. Daisy is apparently missing, her last hope is that in the past two seasons she was stagenamed as Daisy and was really Rocket Dog. Cruise meerkat 02:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
This article is poorly tailored. Discussions of events that have not yet aired or may never air are beyond the scope of this article. The information presented here should focus on the series. Events beyond the body of work (i.e. the series, "Meerkat Manor") are irrelevant here. True or not, Flower's death should not be presented here, as the episodes aired thus far have not addressed it. Nor should information about unfeatured meerkats or meerkat families make it into this article.
Though the Kalahari Meerkat Project has a web page that offers more and newer information than does the series, the project exists seperate from the show. Those adding or editing this article must be careful to make the disctinction between the two. 24.174.134.24 19:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)Sean
I know everyone here is attempting to provide the freshest and best information possible about the Kalahari meerkats featured in "Meerkat Manor." Still, "Meerkat Manor" is a show. As such, it is different from the Kalahari Meerkat Project (KMP). In an encyclopedic article about Shakespeare's drama "Julius Casar," it would be inappropriate to discuss what happened to the historic Mark Antony after the curtain drops. For the same reason, this article should only concern itself with information and events portrayed thus far in the show, "Meerkat Manor." If information comes from a source outside of already-aired episodes of "Meerkat Manor," then it does not belong here. The aired episodes of "Meerkat Manor" should be the only source of information for this article. There is already an article about the KMP. Much of the information presented in the "Meerkat Manor" article belongs there. Indeed, some of it should be discarded altogether, as word of mouth and uncited sources can never serve as a source for an article. I think these suggestions will help simplify the process of refining this article. It will also reduce the need for spoiler warnings, since un-aired material will no longer be present. But please, let me know what you think. Thanks, 24.174.134.24 20:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)Sean
Wikipedia's value as an on-line encyclopedia is compromised by inaccuracy. It is better to include less information than incorrect information. It is not a site to discuss Meerkat Manor, it is a site to present accurate information on the television program. The Kalahari Meerket Project's research forms the basis for the show, but it should be a separate entry. Those seeking to present wider information (such as all the Meerkat groups in the study, variations on names between MM and KMP, etc) should be presenting it there. One of the whole advantages of hyper-linking is to avoid excess duplication of effort wile still having the information accessible.
Rumors are fine for discussion boards, but unless you are applying journalistic standards for accuracy, confirmation, and reliablity of the source, presenting rumors here is inappropriate. Relying solely on internet sources is notoriously dodgy. In general I agree with Sean's analysis: while the enthusiam is commendable, it would be adviseable to limit the information here to solid, confirmable, reliable sources. Two-Tonic Knight 01:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I have a solid, confirmable, reliable source. Cruise meerkat 02:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Proof Carlos is not one meerkat: http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2381948938/m/8581931458 ~Da Cruise Cruise meerkat 02:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
There is alot of things that confused me during this episode.
1.) Jogu and Sophie as brother and sister
2.) Sophie and Izzy as sisters.Mitchlover11 16:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
AP is all mixed up. Sophie is still Mozart's. Jogu will always be Tosca's. And Izzy will never change from Flower's. Cruise meerkat 22:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
How do I know? On the list of meerkats alive as pof January 1st 2007, there are 4 meerkats born on the same day. Names?:
Mitch(male)
Cruise(female)
Logan(male)
Hawkeye(female)
Meerkat pups don't have fully developed "male and female parts" so we know Mitch is male, as we've seen him as adult/teenager. We've seen Einstein, too, and I'm sure if you look closely when he was plotting to steal the eggs, you can see his "male parts". We know Cruise is female, we've seen her as a teenager/juvenile, but we never saw Rocky other than when she was a pup. So that means she is Hawkeye. And Mitch is Mitch, Cruise is Cruise, and Logan is Einstein, who is alive. Someone keeps adding that Einstein has died of starvation, but this fact proves he is still alive. Cruise meerkat 22:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm getting tired of hearing all of this Einstein is dead. I was really bored and i started this rumor, and somehow people beilived it. I'm really sorry about all of this. Please forgive me.Mitchlover11 00:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
No prob. Just remember not to start any rumors, although I created a site where you can post rumors. But its stated that the rumors aren't true. 70.196.62.237 00:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
This talk page is long overdue for archiving, moving resolved topics onto an archived page here: /Archive 1. Also note that talk pages are a place to discuss improvements to the article, keep in mind WP:CBALL + WP:TALK and stay on topic. Random discussion about the show belongs on another forum, not on this talk page. If you want to discuss the show with fellow wiki users, utilize instant messaging, e-mail, or a forum. SabarCont 06:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that it wasn't Mitch that went on a mission to get the Whiskers. I noticed his markings as a pup and memorized them, when the Whiskers were moving, in the middle of the ep when "Mitch" was still looking, I saw a male meerkat with his markings. Once again, AP has switched and lied to us. I have no idea who it was, but it wasn't Mitch. Before you say anything about they dye the meerkats, they dye them the same markings when they re-dye them. They don't change. Cruise meerkat 03:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
That was a rover. I think it was flava Flav.- Mango_kat
It could have been... Cruise meerkat 05:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. Flava Flav is umm well mainly i think ALL the meerkats that are said to be "looking" for families.Mango_kat
I searched his name on google, and one of the articles said that his scar is not from a bird of prey. It's from Zaphod!! Poor Yousarrian!Mitchlover11 04:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC) Mitch, they said they THINK its from a bird of prey and i know its from, the plovers. Remember in season 1 he had no scar and after he was dive bombed by plovers his eye was red, well its my thaught.- Mango_Kat
No, AP is trying to make it dramatic for Youssy. He really did get his scar from Zaphod, and he had his scar in season 1. Cruise meerkat 06:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I sorry. I thaught cuz it looked like it sorrry....Mango kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.90 (talk) 00:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Sad to say, but newly born Rufus from the Whiskers has died. Another death!Mitchlover11 04:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
On ap, they had a episode called Season 2 Re-Cap Special. Should the episodes for Season 2 include this?Mitchlover11 04:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes it was a full epiosode. -Mitchlover11-
I researched names from the Whiskers, and here are the males roving:
1.) 070- Flava Flav
2.) 073- Logan
3.) 074- Mitch
4.) 080- MaladoyMitchlover11 20:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Einstein is Logan, and McMurphy is Maladoy. Flava Flav is Tosca's grown up pup. Not from the litter on MM though. Cruise meerkat 22:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
One of the meerkats was listed in the july monthly report as absent, and in june he was last seen.
SPUD
Mitchlover11 20:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Here is your new user page. Make sure not to copy everything from this page or any other. DO NOT COPY WORD FOR WORD!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mango_kat
Mitchlover11 21:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
THX MITCH!!!!!!- Mango_Kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.107 (talk) 01:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't see spoiler tags on the main page and was very angry while reading the article to be spoiled about key season 3 information that has not aired yet in the USA. Can someone fix this or is the only recourse to delete? 76.170.35.7 16:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but the spoiler doesn't only happen in a plot summary. I read way too much about Flower under her bio section and in 'featured meerkat families', and that truly gave way too much away for me. I don't understand how a simple spoiler warning would upset anybody. To me, this story is more dramatic than any work of fiction, and the Wikipedia article has affected my experience. stevielist | Talk 17:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Old discussions can be found in /Archive 1 and /Archive 2. SabarCont 18:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Forgive me if this is not the right way to reply... I have never commented in Wikipedia before. But, as an example, I read (major) spoiler material in the description of The Whiskers family. I also saw spoilers in the descriptions of the various meerkats. At that point I just stopped reading the article. I never even read the season three plot summary information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.35.7 (talk) 03:59, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Yes I agree that we should have spoilers. The problem is that some people don't like them and think they look ugly, so they delete them and say that they are not needed because meerkat manor is a documentary. I wouldn't call it a documentary, I would call it a docudrama because it's half documentary and half drama. So I think we need spoilers for people like you that come on here just to look and get, well, spoiled, because there are no spoilers. How can such a simple thing like putting up spoilers up because people don't want to get spoiled turn into such a big deal? I think that some people just want to have it the way they want it. Even if it's the wrong way. So lets just keep the spoilers so nobody gets spoiled!Mattkenn3 22:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I watched the episode and cried my eyes out!! Mozart has been trough so much, and i thought for sure that she would rise up. I'm pretty sure that if Kinkajou gave birth first it would be different. Kinkajou did show her true dominant female colors during the episode. She found the group food, she made sure the group was safe, and she lead the group. Maybe she is the better meerkat to lead.
Who do you think is better leader?
Mozart or Kinkajou?
I say Kinkajou.Mitchlover11 02:56, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Kinkaju. No one batted an eyelash when Mozart gave out lead calls. Survival of th fittest. Mozart wasn't fit enough to keep her pups. Cruise meerkat 15:44, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Big Will's mother is not Flower or Risca. It is a female named Vialli. I do not know anything else about her. Cruise meerkat 20:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I DOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! reshearchers are smart, its, Big.Wil not Big.Will and its Vailli not Vialli. Vailli is Vivian Vivian. She gave birth to him when they where mate(Youssarin&Vivian). Youssy left Vivian when another male took over. He met flower and so on.- Mango_Kat
Its Vialli. Yossarian was born in the Vivian and joined the Whiskers, never was DM of them. I don't know about Big Will's name, it could be Big Will, Big Wil, or Supercalifragilisticexpialodcious for all I know. About Vialli's family tree. She gave birth to Big Will and his litter. With Youssy, I presume. She isn't related to Vivian in the least, I'm guessing. Where do you get your info? Cruise meerkat 21:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
BLAH!!!!!! sorry thinkin of, Youssiren. not youssarian. It says on the Kalahari meerkat porjecter on Myspace. I go by that reseacrcher, blah i spelt it wrong. She is a reshearcher(I guess she says) so i go by what she says. Thats my proof- mango_Kat
Youssiren was never a meerkat name... Cruise meerkat 15:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I may foget names. I name them and when i remember thenm i replace.-Mango_kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.43 (talk) 23:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Mango...do you think you could provide me with the link to the researcher on myspace? Cruise meerkat 06:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
YES!!! Myspace.com/MeerkatManor_Flower, or zaphod or mozart of Axle with the MeerkatManor in front...Mango_kat
Hello. I am Tom Flower. Some may know me, but it help produce, direct, and help the meerkats. If you have any questions, please post it on my user page. Thank you for your dedication to Meerkat Manor.
Sincerly, Tom Flower Official 00:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Tom, fo you know, Evi? if so good.- Mango_Kat
I've emailed Evi before. Cruise meerkat 21:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)He probably is WAY to busy to be here.
You are not Tom Flower. He probably is WAY to busy to be here.Mitchlover11 22:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Cruise, what is her ema@il adress? I just want to email her and See if Tom Flower is real. His name aint listed on the resherch/volonteer list- Mango_Kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.15 (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I will have to give it you privately somehow. I almost got in trouble for posting her reply on AP...So I don't know whether I should post her email Cruise meerkat 15:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I got an email... I have to post it privatley. Or after u get it erasse it plz- mango_kat, Meerkittens@hughes.net- PS NO ONE MSSG ME UNLESS IT CRUISE OR MITCH!!!
May i delete the "Splinters"? I am tired of peeps saying they are still split cuz wiki says so. So may i and plz catch up on the episode guide, Len and Squiggy are Houdini's son. Thats why it says "Tale of Len and Squiggy" plz and thz- Mango_Kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.15 (talk) 01:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Personally, while I think it deserves being mentioned, it could be split into the bio sections for Tosca, Daisy, and Youssarian. Also, unless a LOT of time passed between the episodes, there's no way Len and Squiggy are Houdini's. Even if he did successfully mate with Flower, there wouldn't be enough time for her to bring another litter to term. Also, it's stated she just had pups in the episode, so it's likely the two were included in that litter. 70.189.237.15 05:17, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
True Dat... Sorry i just thaught well some times they put three months inbeetween episodes.)Mango_kat
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4231965038/m/7731971029?r=6691929029#6691929029
Posts by pronker. VERY INTERESTING. I know she has a 100% reliable source. So JD was the Carlos who got infected and died. Cruise meerkat 03:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I know. JD is skinny carlos is fat(chubby and no offence)Mango_kat
Carlos is more than 1 meerkat. Most often, he was JD Lazuli. And now JD Lazuli is dead, along with his "Carlos" reputation. Cruise meerkat 16:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I have rated this article as start class because the relatively short length and lack of important sections like critical response, production etc. and as low importance because there is little to distinguish it from other articles about television series. There is only one reference in the whole article and that is in relation to the proposed film rather than the series. This desperately needs some references. Remember you can the cite the episodes as a primary source for plot summary and start looking for reviews of the show as they contain a wealth of other useable information.
These categories are arbritrary and are subject to review by any editor who feels confident to do so. Please note that a more formal assessment by other editors is required to achieve good article or featured article status. I used criteria from the television wikiproject guidelines here, article about TV series guidelines here and the assessment guidelines here.--Opark 77 10:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Maybelline is going to be featured in upcoming episodes of Meerkat Manor, check AP and their episode guide. They claim she is Rocket Dog's littermate, but her only littermate is Kinkaju(Kinkajou). Maybelline is really Monkulus, previously thought to be Sparky. Sparky's real name was Nita, but she recently died. Maybelline is now the dominant female of a new group called the Aztecs. To find out more, go to Kalahari Meerkat Project Cruise meerkat 01:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This is me mitchlover11. I got a new username.Mitchmeerkat 01:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I like ur name. My email is, Meerkittens@hughes.net BI its mango
Could you re-put your names, Cruise meerkat, Mango_kat, and Mattkenn on the users i know. Mitchmeerkat 15:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I have Time Warner Cable, and i looked at next weeks episode and the title said Sibling Rilvary? On the website it says house of Zappa. Which one is correct?Mitchmeerkat 18:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
House of Zappa is correct. Cruise meerkat 19:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Apparently AP changed it. I liked House of Zappa. =( Cruise meerkat 00:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Sibling Rivalry. It aired. so proof it wasnt House of ZappA- mango_kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meerkat Freinds RP (talk • contribs) 08:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure they were calling them the Splinters as a gang name. A 'splinter' group means a smaller group that broke off from the whole group, not reffering to the meerkats.
The definition of a splinter is 'to split or break a larger group into seperate fractions or independent groups'. It seems that's more likely what they meant.
Cindy264 23:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
The Splinters were a meerkat group. When the Whiskers split up, one side is called the Whiskers, the other is called the Splinters. Cruise meerkat 04:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Cruise may i have Meerkat Manor Correctly account? i will try as hard to make it a hit!!! Mango_kat
No you may not but you can edit it. Cruise meerkat 22:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanx!!! Mango_kat My computer wont SIHN
The "Featured meerkat families" section needs some serious editing. There is poor grammar throughout. Also, many statements seem to be unimportant: for Rocky it says "Rocky was given a scorpion to eat by Pooky"; for Apollo, "He was given a beetle larva". There are 71 meerkats listed in this section; are they all really important enough to deserve a mention?
Importance of the facts in this section is just IMHO, but there is indisputably a plethora of grammatical mistakes here. Will somebody please correct it. --FlamingSilmaril 17:04, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
It should be "The Tale of Ren & Stumpy" and not "The Tale of Len & Squiggy". Poor pups, they only lived a couple of weeks and you can't even get their name right!
62.219.117.21 08:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)T.O
They were called Len and Sqiggy in the US. Perhaps someone should make a note of the altnerate names of the episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.218.56.121 (talk) 16:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
In asia, UK, earope etc... ren and Stumpy are the names. In us not canada its Len and Squiggy. We have different episodes and times and names. The leader for them is Tana. Mango_kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.81 (talk) 22:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I changed "Commandoes" (a misspelling of the real word) to "Commandos" and cited the Animal Planet website - http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/meerkat/meet/commandos.html , which clearly spells it that way. For the second time, it was changed back. I don't want to get into an edit war - any suggestions? Krilia 03:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Commandoes is the original spelling, as stated on the episode guides. And it had even been stated once or twice, I believe, on the 3rd season episode guide, so I'm considering it Commandoes. Cruise meerkat 21:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
the episode that says what meerkat gets dominant female has yet to air therefore there is no source to back this statement up.
from the article "Rocket Dog, Rocket Dog is the new dominant female after Flower's death. Rocket Dog is one of Kinkajou's littermates. Rocket Dog previously became the dominant female of a sub-group when the Whiskers split during a drought and food shortage. She loses her first pup(s) through premature labor due to the hardship. When Flower's group and Rocket Dog's group reunite, Rocket Dog again becomes a subordinate."Eadthem 01:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
To stop the constant changing of some titles of some of the episodes, I've updated the episode table for Season 7 to note both the US and UK titles if they are different. So let's use this method to denote both so that both US and UK viewers are served and we providing a more thorough article since it is an important distinction that needs to be included anyway. I listed it with the US title in quotes followed by (US), then a <br /> tag, then the UK title using the same format. AnmaFinotera 15:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
The Animal Planet sit lists the Whiskers group as being 50 members (presumably before whatever split may occur in the last episode). The article was updated to reflect that, but it keeps getting changed back to 33. Where is the 33 number coming from? AnmaFinotera 00:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Kalahari Meerkat Project. It's the official site for the true info and group numbers. I'll get the link in a minute.Mitchmeerkat 00:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
http://friends.kalahari-meerkats.com/index.php?id=meerkat-groups0
Mitchmeerkat 00:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
if i remove the first eleven lines of the "Featured Families" section. (i.e. from SPOILER WARNING!!! - presumed dead.) To me atleast this part seems superfluous because the same information is repeated in the same section in greater detail. I would have done so with out asking but since this is quite a major edit i thought i should see if it's the view of the majority of the people who edit this page frequently. --Insanity x 20:49, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I mind. It should stay there. It summarizes the members.Mitchmeerkat 00:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it's good for the american fans to dish out unknown info to us across the sea so that we are prepared for what comes (e.g episode 8, journeys end) and so that we can keep up with the manor. XOXOX —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlowerQueen (talk • contribs) 18:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I vote for a SPOILER WARNING at the top of this page, or at least above the sections where it goes into details. Bine maya 15:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
for idiots like me, could you put a simpler word for "predated"? i dont know what it means...so how did mozart die? if this is true my mom will be so bummed! she loves mozart:mozart is my moms favorite infact...67.185.53.60 01:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
AnmaFinotera, I thought you agreed with the Mitch thing with these markings proof? Will you accept it when the webmaster has put up the markings on FKMP? Cruise meerkat 22:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
U know how i know Miss Lily The Pink's marks??? Well pictures.....- Mango_kat
Mango_Kat: There are no known pictures on the intrnet of Miss Lilly The Pink. Cruise meerkat 22:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
On Amazon us, they have the book. No price yet.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0297844849/105-7167918-0858828
Mitchmeerkat 01:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Sadly I will have to wait until it comes to Barnes and Noble. No spoilers! Cruise meerkat 01:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I have read a half of chapter one... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.35 (talk) 13:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
The UK is getting the episode every Monday-Friday now. They're getting Journey's End today, and some spoilers for both it and Heavy is the Crown have leaked. Should the article be updated with information from those airings, or are we strictly sticking with the US schedule? 70.189.237.15 12:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I think we should post the details, because remember wikipedia is not jut for americans, and the programmes' origins come from the U.K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.133.19 (talk) 20:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is international. Updates from "Heavy is the Crown" were removed and as a result details about Axl and his siblings became incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.133.0.8 (talk) 06:33, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Maybe if you UK viewers are so intent on spoiling American viewers, you can write a special UK section for the article and spoil away to your heart's content THERE. I don't understand the "me, me, me" logic that wants to ruin the show for other viewers. Of course, your discussion is moot, anyway. The entire season is spoiled for the US already. 76.171.174.37 22:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I would think it's not an all or nothing kind of thing- either your read or you don't. The first two paragraphs give info that actually give useful knowledge about the project, but then it suddenly goes into a character section that basically tells the whole plot (which really is not what one would expect- caught me totally off-guard). I'm neither UK nor US based and i do not care about your inter-anglo resentments (nor about reality TV shows). People access the english language wikipedia from all over the world and watch these kinds of shows through all sorts of distribution channels (DVDs, itunes, satellite, etc). So when you are done with your inter-anglo resentments, could we agree to give people a choice as you say, would be nice to let them know where the spoiling starts, non? Like say in the beginning- attention, section 'blablbabla contains spoilers'. BTW, this discussion about spoilers contains spoilers itself. that's pretty inconsiderate. why is it such a big problem to put a spoiler tag after the non-spoiling header sections? Bine maya 12:30, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
There needs to be a consensus here. Either the Kalahari project is a valid source for info on the groups or not. You can not pick and choose that it can be used for the Whiskers group count but can't be used to provide details on the status of other groups. Also, you've reverted a lot of edits (again) without giving any explanations as to why. AnmaFinotera 02:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Meerkat Manor and the Kalahari Meerkat Project are two seperate articles on wikipedia. Stuff about Withnail(Zappa DM) should not be on MM article, but some truths, like Starsky gang's fate, numbers of Whiskers, Commandoes reduced by TB(Commandoes are played by Vivian for shots of Hannibal and Commandos for larger, battle scenes), and stuff should be added to give a quality of truth to the article. Cruise meerkat 21:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I have a source. I will try to find it in a moment, hold on. I will also give you the email of the webmaster of FKMP to ask her for yourself if Vivian-Commandos = Commandoes(although she might not know). She will know, however, that at least the Vivian make up the Commandoes if you tell her that the dominant male is one-eyed, but I'm pretty sure she knows it already. Cruise meerkat 22:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
She has asked people to not post the complete emails, so I will have to paraphrase it. Cruise meerkat 02:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
if you go to the current group section of friends.kalahari-meerkats.com there will be group shots on the right hand side if you scroll down to the vivian and click for a larger view you will see a one eyed dominant standing in front of the researcher that should be all you need to see that the vivian are portrayed as the commandos and then if you look at the monthly reports and the map on the kmp website the whiskers dont encounter the vivian but they do however encounter the commandos who tookover whisker,elveera,and young ones land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.23 (talk) 03:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The Kalahari Meerkat Project has been slated for deletion due "no asertion of notability, no sources." I had actually looked at that page for the first time last night and recommended some changes, but in the end, I really don't think the page has enough notability to stand on it's on. The project seems to have been virtually unheard of outside of zoology circles until Meerkat manor and the article offers very little relevant or unique info.
So I propose the article be semi-merged with the Meerkat Manor article. There is already an existing section for the project in Meerkat Manor, which actually already has more useful info than the existing article. Still, that section could be fleshed out more to include more of the project's history and give a brief summation/discussion of the groups not featured in the show and discrepancies between the groups in the project and what the Meerkat Manor shows (properly cited, of course).
Thoughts? AnmaFinotera 20:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
this is a bad idea the kmp wiki is updated with information from the yearly report, the monthly report,and the kmp website whereas the meerkat manor wiki is updated with what happens on the show.. the kalahari meerkat project and the tv series meerkat manor are two very different things that shouldn't be combined.....and now there is nothing on the kmp wiki so......... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.23 (talk) 04:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree that there may be a valid argument for putting spoilers on the "Featured families" section. I have read WP:SPOILER more carefully, and it doesn't say that they are inappropriate in this situation. However, the way to do this is not an all-caps warning with personal attacks against "the author", as in this [1] edit. There is a template to do this, ((spoiler)). If we decide spoiler warnings are needed, this is what we should use for them. First I think we should come to a consensus. So anybody who has an opinion on this, please give it: should we or should we not have spoilers on the families section? --FlamingSilmaril 11:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I worded that warning to get your attention, because you are indifferent to the fact that people are being spoiled outside of the season three area and are not happy about it, and because you blew off earlier polite requests from me (and others, I notice) to add warnings. I know others who were inadvertantly spoiled, and I hate to think of school kids who watch the show having it "ruined" for them. This is a very simple request and does not require a think tank to come to the obvious conclusion. If some of us are unhappy and trying to fix the problem (and no doubt representative of a larger group that doesn't care enough to try, especially in the face of outright opposition), why are you removing spoilers and indifferent to viewer concerns? If you agree that spoilers are warranted in the season 3 area, then it's simple logic that they are also needed in other areas that spoil that information; in fact, more so, since there is no "season 3" heading to warn them off. I'll put it another way: what's the harm of adding a spoiler warning in the family section... my God, the first entry there spoils the death of a major character... have you no sensitivity as to how that has marred the viewing of this wonderful show for me and others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.35.7 (talk) 15:27, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
I agree revising content is preferable to putting up spoiler tags. I certainly do not have time to edit an article that is rife with many, many spoilers, nor would I take the time to do so because obviously you would remove those edits from your holy perch of Wikipedia faux authority. My reasoning is solid; yours is specious. I was personally spoiled and so were friends of mine and so were others as evidenced by posts here. I find your position on this simple issue utterly amazing. 76.170.35.7 19:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
"Spoiler notices may be appropriate when significant plot revelations appear in unexpected places. As with all content, if a particular spoiler notice is disputed, discuss on the talk page and abide by consensus with regard to including or omitting the spoiler notice."
When people read about Flower's death, they are immediately mad at wikipedia for spoiling them. Its happened to a lot of people I know. I think we should warn them about the most main character in the whole series' death. It seems pretty important to put the spoiler if the main character dies. Plus, maybe people would stop trying to put she doesn't die. Cruise meerkat 05:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I read the article wanting to catch up. When I prematurely discovered that Flower had died I was very mad at Wikipedia. It seems that some editors of this page have chosen to bicker of the finer points of "spoiler policy" and have dismissed the concerns of the content consumers. I uderstand that there is policy and convention to follow. I also understand the need to reach consensus among editors. But at some point you gotta just ask yourself "what would the readers of this page want?" and "is defending my point really worth this ongoing grief?" That more than a few people have complained about the spoilers ruining their experience of the show should be cause for immediate concern. This debate appears to be more about jockying about who can lay claim to being right and less about what's best for the page. Given the ill-will that is being created, why would anyone want to perpetuate that for future visitors? After reading this debate the lesson is clear: avoid Wikipedia for TV related content. It's a shame. I might have stuck around and helped with maintaining the page but this needless headstrong approach of some editors means this is a page I'll never visit again. Along the way my faith in Wikipedia has dropped a bit too. This is a silly fight if I've ever seen one because it's reducing the appeal and value of the page in the first place.
"What's the policy?" is the wrong question to be asking. "What would most visitors coming to this page want?" is a better question. I'd much rather face the "ugly" formatting of spoiler warnings than unintentionally run into a plot spoiler. It's hard to imagine why any Wikipedia editor would want visitors to have a bad experience reading their pages. It's clear that people are upset by the manner in which the content is being presented and addressing this easy to do. Why, then, are we still debating? Can those who are blocking the spoiler warning please just step back for a moment and ask themselves if it's truly worth upsetting all of these visitors to the article so that they can continue to be "right" about the spoiler policy and whether or not this show is a documentary or a drama. C'mon...it does not matter. What matters is that people are needlessly getting ticked off reading the article. Why would anyone want that? It's easy to fix.
There is a real problem here. Do we want to see it fixed, or do we want to debate it and "win"?
Tobycat [[User_talk:Tobycat|(talk)]] 00:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
After trying to fix the awful spoiler problem, I gave up, realizing that I was up against the type of people who would say "There are no characters" in this show. The characters in Meerkat Manor have more depth and, well....character than any other show on TV today. I doubt that you will see anybody on any other show give their life to help their family the way Flower and Shakespeare did. I was glad to find out that there were other people who could fight my position better than I could (thank you Tobycat for your articulate words). Due to certain people's need to 'win', they will ruin the experience for many people in the future. stevielist , 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I am the "unsigned" poster who previously, unsuccessfully tried to add spoiler warnings to this article (as a direct result of reading about Flower's death and what happens after that, although I didn't mention specifically what had concerned me until now, after her death has aired on television). I gave up in the face of one arrogant person who designated themself the arbiter of this site, deleted attempts to add spoiler warnings, and called for a consensus on the issue (and then hypocritically ignored that the consensus of those posting here is to add the warnings). I am glad to see that others of you also tried (stevielist and tobycat in particular), using common sense, even though common sense obviously went right over the head of the self-designated arbiter. My opinion of Wikipedia has diminished, and I will never again use it for any purpose other than historical information. It saddens me to realize that this tool, Wikipedia, is designed in such a way that an article can be taken hostage by one individual and used to hurt others.76.171.174.37 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 18:19, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you done bickering now? Can we get back to the issue: IMHO, as it is now, a spoilerwarning should go on there. there is no harm in having it on there, but there clearly is harm if there isnt. if editing can be done in a way that does not give away the plot 9e.g. by putting the characters and plots on a separate page or a clearly spoilermarked section, it can be removed. for my part, i would not expect wikipedia should be an episode guide but i may be alone in that.
If you oppose spoilerwarnings, what is your argument? that people should not be reading wikipedia, as someone did below? also see my comments in the uk section below.Bine maya 12:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
If you live in the UK, then you should make another Meerkat Manor article, but centers on UK info and not US. Then is parenthsis you can say whether it's US or UK.Mitchmeerkat 18:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Technically, wouldn't they be almost exactly the same in the end, save for announcer and airing schedules? I can see why some people might not want too many spoilers here, but it's the inconsistency of the overall edits that gets me (revert spoilers, bring them back, o hay let's bring the Aztecs in just because!). 70.189.237.15 23:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Don't be so mean. It was just a opinion. On this page it would say what our version says, and the UK one would say what ya'lls say. If it's the same, then it would be okay. Their may be spoilers for US, but for UK it would be fine.Mitchmeerkat 00:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
He's not being mean, he's being honest, with some fun, nothing wrong with that. How about we have a meerkat manor with all places thought of? Example-
Tale of Len and Squiggy (USA), Tale of Ren and Stumpy (UK) Mattkenn3 00:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, I am sick of spoilers. I think we should put out a spoiler warning. I did not want to know about Mozart or Kinkajou or De la Soul. Cruise meerkat 21:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I never thought they would die. I'm just glad we got to know Mozart. Never got to know Kink or De La Soul. It says that 4 litters were raised in the group. what were the other two??Mitchmeerkat 23:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
No idea. Although, all litters died. Cruise meerkat 23:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Makes the loss even sadder.Mitchmeerkat 23:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I created an article called Flower Whiskers, but almost right away, someone else redirtected it to Meerkat Manor. Grundle2600 00:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Cruise meerkat 23:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
what is daisy's research name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.14.23 (talk) 04:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
It contributes because...Well, its a stagename, real name guide. It should be helpful in some way. Daisy's season 1 name is Super Furry Animal, season 2 unknown, and season 3 could be Petra or Flo, Hawkeye, or someone else I forgot. Cruise meerkat 07:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The book about Flower and the KMP name list along with the KMP site for Youssy's name. Yes, Axle and Youssarian's names are both spelled incorrectly by Animal Planet. Cruise meerkat 20:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Mick Kaczorowski has a note about name changes somewhere. Will find it. Cruise meerkat 23:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I would say this list is useful for fans of the show who want to delve deeper. However, there needs to be some sourcing. TheUnknown285 19:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Most of it is in the book about Flower(which I will be getting soon), but you have to draw conclusions. Some, like Sparky-Nita are educated guesses, and others, like Tosca-Badiel, are for sure. Cruise meerkat 22:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Someone I know has it, but we don't live near each other, so I haven't seen it. Tosca-Badiel is 100% for sure, Sparky-Nita is 99& sure. If you want, I can ask the person whether Sparky's real name is Nita or not. Cruise meerkat 00:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I am getting the book around October 20th, I will confirm all these true, and, if not, change the false ones. Cruise meerkat 21:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
With Sophie and Maybelline seemingly becoming more important and more featured in Meerkat Manor, shouldn't we promote them to the "Main Family Members" section? TheUnknown285 16:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Sophie has taken a bigger role this season, including babysitting and defending the pups on numerous occaisions and assisting Rocket Dog with the attack on Punk. TheUnknown285 17:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
For the overall name list, it might be useful to combine names on the same line in cases in which all the information is just who their littermates are, ie: "Meerkat A, Meerkat B, Meerkat C, Meerkat D -- members of [insert mother's name]'s [insert litter order]." TheUnknown285 19:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I think Maybelline should be featured, especially at the end. But not Sophie. She's still a minor character. Cruise meerkat 23:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)