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I'm proposing that these articles be merged together, since I doubt many of these monuments meet the notability guidelines (especially of the regimental monuments). This looks like a case of inherited notabiliy. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Category:Gettysburg Battlefield memorials and monuments. Wild Wolf (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll merge the 44th New York monument article. If no one else comments on the other monuments, then I'll merge those as well. Wild Wolf (talk) 16:10, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I have to say that this "merge everything" philosophy goes very much against the whole idea of WP:Public Art - where there are both lists and individual articles. It also goes against some current trends in Wikipedia - that some "small things" like a major sculpture by a famous sculptor can really be considered "major art works" worthy of their own article. For example, how many individual articles are there on paintings? Probably 1,000s if not 10,000s - even though a painting itself is small, the ideas it conveys are often very big. Smallbones (talk) 03:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Including 15 or so I took March 1, don't know how I forgot to mention it.
I think I'd keep the "List" in the title and remove some of the text to separate articles. Can we close out the merger stuff now?
The multiple geotemplates probably won't work - they will all display all the coords on this page (BTW #6 is way off in DC somewhere).
Finally - why do we have Confederate ahead of Union in the list? Gettysburg is, after all in Pennsylvania, which is and was part of the United States, and many Pennsylvanians could be greatly offended by this.
Smallbones (talk) 02:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I am going to move those first sections and create seperate articles with them. Then start a "State Monuments" section and put them there, in chart form. I feel that each section should have a galley after it. Carptrash (talk) 20:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
This is an article about monuments. Images might get defended. Carptrash (talk) 21:05, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Please see examples like National Register of Historic Places listings in Philadelphia or List of public art in Philadelphia. Do you object to the use of photos in those articles? If so, there are many folks who will disagree with you. Do you object to this list being formatted as a Public Art list? Smallbones (talk) 14:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I started organizing the list/chart by "equestrian", "individual" and was intending to get to" States, Units, Whatever". Now it seems that the trend is toward two lists, Union and Confederate. Here is the thing (i.e., my opinion). Martin in his book, "Confederate Monuments at Gettysburg" states, "Gettysburg battlefield has over 1300 monuments and memorials." [1] I found this to be a sobering thought. I do not feel that it is my job (or yours for that matter) to decide which memorials are significant enough to be included and which should be tossed in the dust bin. So, some sort of organization is, I believe, called for.
Also, someone has tightened the chart up nicely. leaving, I think, room for an IMAGE column on the far right. What you say we add that column and start slapping in pictures, then join ranks for when the "No pictures" forces arrive and give them the same reception that Pickett got? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I created some articles, Alabama State Monuments (Gettysburg), North Carolina State Monument (Gettysburg) and I think another, by moving those sections from this article and creating new articles. Now it seems that some of those articles already existed, so mine got redirected to those. I feel my titles are better because at some time we will have an Alabama State Monument (Vicksburg) and who knows what. I believe that it is important to keep the name of the battle in the title. But worse that that, when you go to Alabama State Monument and click on the TALK tab, you end up here? There is some weird connection between those articles and this that is very (to me) disturbing. Any ideas? Carptrash (talk) 17:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
"folks will see several problems arise before then." Sort of like watching the weather station and seeing a typhoon headed for us? Could be. So I am going to go to the HELP ME page and ask for help getting the Alabama State Monument changed back to Alabama State Monument (Gettysburg. Also the Pennsylvania State Monument (Gettysburg) needs to be spun off. I'm just plugging away at some of the other monuments in the meantime. Carptrash (talk) 19:21, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
"appropriate." I'll have to remember to add that to my list of words that mean in my opinion. Carptrash (talk) 18:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
As to which Alabama monument is the best known - it probably depends where you live. Why not get the names in order now, right at the beginning while we are doing the first round? And, when folks link me to rules I rarely if even read them. I want to talk about what makes sense to us, then go from there. What we are doing is creating the path that other folks can follow. Let us mark it clearly. Carptrash (talk) 22:12, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that the format has been changed and many photos removed. Can you explain what you're doing and why? Smallbones (talk) 19:25, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Well there. I reverted us back to Richard's last edit. I am going to try and make sense of the good points in User:206.18.170.160 edit, but company arrives very soon, so might not get to it. Other folks who have lost edits - or who want to just leap in, should please do so. Carptrash (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
I've reorganized the monument tables in an effort to make them more accessible and useful to the reader. "Name - Image - Location" are now first, with other information following. I've also tried to alphabetize the regiments as is done elsewhere – first by state, then by number and type.
For example:
This standardizes things, and keeps groups like Artillery and Light Artillery or Infantry and Reserve Infantry together.
-- BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 22:43, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
It seems to me to be wise to tolerate external links in the LCS (List of Classified Structures) column. Doing so may be contrary to Wikipedia's policy for articles, but this is a list, and moving each link to a footnote adds unnecessary steps for the reader. There are more than 1,100 monuments at Gettysburg, each with its own LCS page. Once this list is completely filled in, there would be 1,100 additional (and unnecessary) footnotes.
Similar external links are used on lists such as this: National Register of Historic Places listings in Berks County, Pennsylvania. What would be the advantage of moving each link to its own footnote? -- BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
The National Park Service seems to have changed its website, altering the URLs of its List of Classified Structures. Many (most?) of the hundreds of LCS links in this table will have to be updated. Of the dozen or so I just checked, only 2 LCS links took you the correct Gettysburg monument. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
This is an extremely detailed and quality article. I think it would qualify as a featured list. I will directly ping BoringHistoryGuy and Carptrash into this discussion because they seem to have made the greatest contributions to this list thus far. What more needs to be done? Have you considered nominating this for FL? -- Veggies (talk) 18:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
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The person listed in Commemorated 2000 (Bill Beckworth)[2] has been corrected to Bill Beckwith, the sculptor who created the monument. The referenced article exists.
The article has over 400 links to the LCS (List of Classified Structures). This database is no more. All links dead, most are not salvageable due to login error. The replacement database is CRIS: https://apps.cr.nps.gov/CRIS .. however as of this post, it is private still being data-entryfied. At some point, maybe (?), it will be public. I've added an update tag to remind to keep check on CRIS status. -- GreenC 02:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)