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On 3 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of association football players who died during their careers to List of association footballers who died while playing. The result of the discussion was moved to List of association footballers who died after on-field incidents. |
I can't find JOHN WHITE (1937 - 1964), the Spurs star who was struck by lightning while sheltering under a tree on a golf course during a storm. ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.36.130.231 (talk) 04:58, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
I know there's controversy over his exact cause of death, but he was still an active player when he died, so I'm sure he should be on here--2A00:23C4:8D48:1:C1CD:685F:6DD9:F562 (talk) 15:38, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Could we not keep this article as, although there is a category which covers deaths, it does not provide the details or deaths of said players GiantSnowman 11:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
The players listed can be incoporated under the relevant headings, right? Cristiano Junior already is. I'm not sure why they're listed separately. - Dudesleeper · Talk 19:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Footballers who died while playing → List of footballers who died while playing — For the simple reason that this is more of a list that an standalone article —Willirennen 13:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
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I propose that we remove all players who lack a reference which indicated that they actually died while playing - people's thoughts? If there is no reply in the next few days I shall be bold and go ahead and remove said players. GiantSnowman (talk) 00:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
This article should be renamed to "Football Related Deaths" because almost all of these did NOT die on the pitch. For example, Antonio Puerta, Marc Vivian Foe and Fehér all died in hospital, not on the pitch. This should be addressed and updated. (DipSetGeezer (talk) 11:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC))
It says in the opening line, 'The following is a list of football players who have died whilst playing a game, or died from injuries sustained while playing.' Name of the page probably could do with a change though. It currently is a little bit misleading. 62.249.237.223 (talk) 18:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
But mainly those that died as a result of injuries sustained on the pitch. Very few actually died on the pitch, probably none were actually pronounced there. 62.249.237.223 (talk) 21:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Very shocking facts... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.188.253.131 (talk) 14:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Most soccer players who died during a game were seemingly really weak (no offense to them or their families) or had bad hearts. I mean, they get hit with the ball and it eventually turns into an infection? How the hell is that even possible?
Not to mention most of these deaths were heart-related. They should have had doctor clearance before playing. I'm sure other leagues around the world do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.19.3 (talk) 06:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Thought I'd bring him up, as he is a borderline case. He was paralyzed from the neck down after ramming his head into another player (Landon Donovan, actually) in a challenge in a youth match between Trinidad and Tobago and the USA. He died about a year later, apparently from complications of his paralysis (stopped breathing). 174.111.116.162 (talk) 00:58, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
The reason for the move just done on this article was "While there are at least six other competitions called football, this is the only one which refers to them as footballers. Every other one is football players."
Sorry. Wrong.
I don't even feel like explaining, Why should I? the person who performed this move did not discuss or suggest it here, and is clearly not interested in facts. But just in case some readers are, players of all four codes of football played professionally in Australia are know as footballers.
It MUST be moved back.
I'll give this 24 hours (unlike the original mover, who allowed NO discussion), then move it back, unless convinced otherwise.
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Many players have cause of death labelled as Heart Failure. Heart Failure is a long term degenerative disease where the heart becomes less and less effective over a long period of time. It is highly unlikely any of these footballers died of heart failure. They would have had to have given up their careers many years beforehand.
Does Ricky Yacobi belong on this list. He was a retired footballer from Indonesia who sadley died yesterday after suffering a heart attack while playing football with several former national team players and journalists. Since it was not a professional game I did not know if the article qualified to be in the list. Inter&anthro (talk) 23:32, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
The cause of death for this player is listed as "swallowing his tongue" which, I confirmed, is listed on the cited source. However, a quick google search shows a plurality of trusted medical websites saying such a thing is not possible. See e.g.: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33080482/ (This section initiated 20:56, 12 June 2021 by a user at 77.1.188.167 -manually identified by Yadsalohcin (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC))
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Name: Miklos Feher Nationality: Hungary Age: 24 Club: Benfica Club nation: Portugal Cause of death: Heart Attack [1] MatthewDooley6 (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
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Even though Eriksen survived his collapse against Finland, Denmark's physician confirmed that his pulse had stopped for a few minutes so I'm adding him anyway.
Just noting several players: 1. Didn't die in game. 2. Didn't die due to the game itself, or injuries thereof. 3. There has been an increase in instances (even if only an instance of reported instances) of collapses in training or similar outside of the game - but related. Is this strictly professional or amateurs included (which can cause obvious increase in numbers and speculation etc). We should also almost certainly link to Sudden cardiac death of athletes. Koncorde (talk) 13:48, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
this article is clearly lacking right now in every possible way. I would suggest unpublishing it, till the data is more complete or there is a paragraph added for additional numbers found. Tecardo (talk) 09:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
Compare this page to 2020 and there are a number of additions in years prior to 2021 to include amateur / training related deaths. Why did this occur? Because recent news articles have linked 2021 deaths of sports athletes to this page suggesting they are the result of vaccine injury. So Pfizer has in all likelihood hired PR representatives to bump up the deaths of previous years. Now the quality of the article is low Pfizer will probably ask it to be scrapped entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.227.97 (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
As the article clearly states: "The following is an incomplete list of association footballers who died while playing". With the incomplete in mind, it is meaningless to present a bar chart which reflects little more than the relative levels of archiving for each year. The FIFA Sudden Death Report suggests that during 2014-2018 there were typically 150 deaths per year, while the chart shows an average circa 10 in these years; the maximum shown on this bar chart is 21 in 2021. I propose to remove this bar chart, as the apparent spike in 2021 is clearly a function mainly of reporting, and not necessarily actual numbers of deaths. Yadsalohcin (talk) 22:40, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
See title. Seasider53 (talk) 15:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
"associaton" should probably be association...
Not sure how to change that though. 76.67.177.112 (talk) 02:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Err… Seasider53 (talk) 05:10, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Something for those with access to better sources to look up. I lately read that a post WWII Army Cup Final took place in presence of King Geoge VI (so pre 1952) at which a thunderbolt killed two of the players on the field. I read of this in a Shrewsbury Town-related book Meadow Meastros & Misfits, that one of the surviving players joined Town after release from the army but intriguingly it omits the date of that cup final.Cloptonson (talk) 06:29, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Should there be separate pages for deaths associated with playing on the pitch itself rather than incidental deaths like car accidents? It's getting somewhat unwieldy at the moment. In Vitrio (talk) 14:57, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Rough consensus that the current title is inaccurate, as the scope is narrower than "players who died during their careers".
No clear consensus on where to move the article to, but the option with the most support appears to be List of association footballers who died after on-field incidents and so per WP:NOGOODOPTIONS I am moving this there.
Editors who disagree with that title should feel free to open a new move request at any time. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 09:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
List of association football players who died during their careers → List of association footballers who died while playing – This list was moved without discussion on 7 January 2023. However, the result of discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of association footballers who died during their careers (a very similar title) was that such overarching lists violate WP:NOTMEMORIAL and WP:NLIST. I request that this list be moved back to the previous title. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 06:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
OK. We now have a closed discussion, and a unilateral move to a different, undiscussed name, about people who "died after on-field incidents". The list includes a lot of people described as having died after something happened during training. That is not generally understood as being on-field. It could have been anywhere! On a training run. In a swimming pool. In a gym.... And what do we do with someone described as having "Died after suffering a headache following a game"? HiLo48 (talk) 23:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Should this list really include clearly non-notable players, like the tonnes of British players who were playing in local league matches, and the lots of players who were playing for teams that are so local that they aren't notable for a team article? Listing them here looks like it violates WP:NOTMEMORIAL for anyone who wasn't a notable person prior to their death. I would support the removal of all clearly non-notable players i.e. where they don't have an article and they don't demonstrate that they could meet WP:GNG and thus have an article created and kept under the current Wikipedia guidelines. Thoughts? Joseph2302 (talk) 14:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)