A fact from Lipstick Building appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 August 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Would someone have a list of previous & current owners of this building? If so, could you please post it here or add it to the article, including info source? Thank you kindly. Tell someone (talk) 13:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The image used here is not very representative of what the building really looks like.
There's a large blown vertical highlight on the building.
The sky is bleached out.
The color is barely discernible, looking more like tones of burnt umber instead of the reddish-brown tones it really is.
The contrast is too wonky - the upper tower is blown while the street level is too dark to see much detail.
The photo is taken from too close - this distorts the building's perspective, makes the "lipstick" aspect impossible to see, and cuts off the top.
Possible remedy:
1. Re-shoot it from farther down the block to resemble this Flickr photgraph.
Notice that the Flickr Photo is shot looking away from the sun and therefore the sky is blue instead of bleached out like the existing image. Also, it's a clear day with no bright patches of sunlight falling on the building. That makes the color much more realistic and eliminates blown highlights. Unfortunately, at the grown floor level, detail is almost impossible to see. Perhaps a separate ground level photograph is called for because of the detail, as in this Flickr photograph? Does anyone know how to formally request a new photograph?
2. Although not as good as the Flickr photo, this one already exists in Wikimedia Commons. The color is not as far off; there are no blown highlights; and the "lipstick" shape is somewhat more indicated: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lipstick_building.jpg Does anyone know how to switch photographs?
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... that a New York City office building was nicknamed for its resemblance to a lipstick tube? Source: Mason, Todd (January 15, 1992). "Firm Foundations: A Big Texas Developer Does the Unexpected: Keeps on Developing Gerald D. Hines Rarely Builds On Speculation, Slashes Costs, Avoids Heavy Debt Trying Hard to Please Clients". Wall Street Journal. p. 1
ALT1: ... that for his first project in New York City, Gerald D. Hines developed a building that resembled a lipstick tube? Source: Mason, Todd (January 15, 1992). "Firm Foundations: A Big Texas Developer Does the Unexpected: Keeps on Developing Gerald D. Hines Rarely Builds On Speculation, Slashes Costs, Avoids Heavy Debt Trying Hard to Please Clients". Wall Street Journal. p. 1
ALT2: ... that developer Gerald D. Hines's first project in New York City was a building that resembled a lipstick tube? Source: Mason, Todd (January 15, 1992). "Firm Foundations: A Big Texas Developer Does the Unexpected: Keeps on Developing Gerald D. Hines Rarely Builds On Speculation, Slashes Costs, Avoids Heavy Debt Trying Hard to Please Clients". Wall Street Journal. p. 1
ALT3: ... that despite appearing elliptical, the Lipstick Building has between 156 and 180 sides? Source: Stern, Robert A. M.; Fishman, David; Tilove, Jacob (2006). New York 2000: Architecture and Urbanism Between the Bicentennial and the Millennium. New York: Monacelli Press. p. 530.
ALT4: ... that the developer of the Lipstick Building built a subway entrance to get more space? Source: Polsky, Carol (March 9, 1987). "Builders' Bonus Draws New Fire; Critics Say Developer `Abused' City Policy". Newsday. p. 9.
Overall: Epicgenius, following my review of this article and the proposed hooks, I assess that they meet the criteria for DYK. This article is 19803 characters (3251 words) and is "readable prose size", and it has been more than 5x expanded since edits for expansion began on 14 July. While all hooks meet DYK criteria, I prefer the original (first) hook. The hook image is CC BY 2.0. There are no instances of close paraphrasing or copyvios. West Virginian (talk)00:54, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I removed it. In NYC a building of this height isn't considered a skyscraper, but it might be considered a skyscraper in other cities. Epicgenius (talk) 16:20, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Y I do not see "The building stands on a double-height column at the base"
Y In the cite section I am not sure how to use the citation Number 1 cites the whole first paragraph
I added another citation for the fact that the building is at that specific address. The rest of the paragraph is sourced to the map because it's showing the geographic locations of both this building and other nearby buildings. It's not immediately intuitive, but clicking on the lot for 599 Lexington Avenue, for example, will show that it's just one block west. Epicgenius (talk) 16:20, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Y In the site section the other sources match the prose
Y "bought the site in mid-1980 for $7.2 million." I think the source says "more than"
Y Architecture and Form and facade sections citations match text
Y Features citation 29 works to cite the sq ft other citations in the section are accurate
Y Spot checked citations in the Development section match
Y Hines operation section first sentence is cited with emporis - I am unsure about the reliability of the source - the rest of the section's citaions are good
Looking at past discussions, there were disputes over whether Emporis was reliable. Since the site has now shut down, it's hard to know for sure, though I personally lean toward it being reliable, as all info added to the site had to be vetted by an expert. Epicgenius (talk) 16:20, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
Yes
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
Well done, I am happy to pass this article as a good article. It is a beautiful building and your article is a great record.
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