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I've had this graphic novel since 1992, so I think the copyright date of 1996 in the bibliography must be incorrect. Unfortunately, my copy is packed in a box where I can't get at it. --Geenius at Wrok (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
The editor Peace is contagious, who had blanket-reverted my edits, has reinserted a slew of his own edits that blatantly violate many Wikipedia policies and guidelines in an attempt to turns this piece into fannish and promotional hype. Here are three examples of his edits:
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...the beginning of a long, uncited POV essay.
Aside from the grammatical, punctuation and style concerns, the tone of this piece makes it read like press release, and violates policies about promotional edits. I will post a note on this editor's page, but judging from his blanket reversion of another editor's work in order to add his highly fannish, non-encyclopedic, edits, I imagine this might require admin intervention. Obviously, I hope not. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
...due to his wit, he was chosen to host 3Xs.
I'm not sure how to 'prove' this, but when I was writing term papers in high school & college. 'common knowledge' did not have to be foot-noted. I would imagine this is common knowledge to those in the comics field, however not to those outside there-of.
I fear Wikipedic litigation, as a certain unamed user has an anal-retentive penchant for verifying the most mundane of facts, due to his near-orgasmic love of comic books (q.v.). Peace is contagious (talk) 11:03, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
btw "True opinion is fact." is an academic statement, take any college level 'Intro to Logic' course. Evolution is a 'fact' & sadly in today's age (in the public eye) often enuf described as an 'opinion'. In the end I would say evolution is common knowledge. Such doubt begs epistemological parameters, but I concede this point may be a red-herring.
May I mention that Kyle hosted the Harvey Awards 3Xs ? due to his wit & personality' ? (or 'penchant for telling 'jokes' (q.v.) that others SEEMED (q.v.) to be amused by, due to repeated spasms* of their diaphragm. *although the spasms could have been due to the food served theoretically & merely a synchronistic anomaly in time & space ) ? I OBVIOUSLY do not have the knowledge of other editors, like Tenebrae, on comics, he pro'bly knows where to verify this. Peace is contagious (talk) 20:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
If u look in the HC copy of Truth, u will see 1 panel (aprox. 2/3 of the way thru the tale) w/ a drawn background of a # of pictures on a wall, BUT 1 is an actual photo of Kyle standing next to Eriq. I asked Cheryl Baker why this was (photo) was present ...& she explained Eriq sought to make Truth into a film. Peace is contagious (talk) 12:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
The abusive and insulting, name-calling editor Peace is contagious has been blocked for 24 hours for his disruptive, multiple-policy-violating edits. I've reverted three that he made right before his 3RR block went into effect. First, the list of notable works isn't meant to be an huge laundry list, but two or three of the most significant.
Second, it is by no means a hard-and-fast fact that Baker is particularly known for his contributions to graphic novels -- certainly not in comparison with Will Eisner (A Contract with God), Gil Kane (Blackmark), McGregor/Gulacy (Sabre), Steranko (Red Tide), Arnold Drake/Lesslie Waller/Matt Baker (It Rhymes with Lust), or a half-dozen other milestone pioneers. Baker is one more contemporary writer-artist making graphic novels, no more, no less.
Finally, I've removed this non-MOS, poorly written and uncited paragraph, with a claim of a "favorable" (POV) review by the NY Times — with no footnote to support this claim.
This was followed by a line that read as if it were a resume entry. I'm beginning to fear that Pic is unwilling or even perhaps unable be unable to understand the policies that I've been bluelinking to. Instead, he keeps resorting to reversion of his policy/guideline-breaking edits and name-calling. --Tenebrae (talk) 13:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Added link, hopefully I got this right. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:11, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
...not sure what such a " has to do w/ anything significant, "I eat all the time" would be just as frivolous. Is Baker known as a 'notorious liar' ? Even potentially libelous as taken out of context. I would even say it's 'vandalism'...if there was 'intent' to be libelous. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
The " seems to be indicative of Baker's over-all attitude, although could represent his attitude in his later career only. Just didn't seem like the appropriate place where it was (in a list of 'Later' works. maybe a new section is needed. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Kyle's Father died in ~ 2003, in Nyack,NY?, so an obituary should be available somewhere online, maybe. And that would verify that John was a Pratt grad w/ BA/BS in Graphic Art
John was more of a free-lance (graphic) artist, often living hand-to-mouth, than an 'art-director' @ a company (or two). He did a bit of work for his church, which was directly across the street from his home (in W. Nyack). News-papers often put 'polite' spin on obit & other stories. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I believe that Eliz Smith-Baker's job as an AV director is pt and a '2nd' or retirement job over the past 10 yrs or so...I do not know her previous job. BUT of more interest, she is a descendant of (her Father James Smith Sr. - age 93 and) Lewis Adams, Tuskeegee Univ. founder! I'd imagine such records would be available thru some federal or state gov't birth records... Peace is contagious (talk) 01:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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