GA Review

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Reviewer: Ankitbhatt (talk · contribs) 17:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, here's my review. I have been slightly involved with this article, though not enough to be unable to review this article. I am going to first review the lead, and its not satisfactory at all.

I think capitals are not needed since this is a generic term and not a specific award title in this sentence. The other items have been completed. BollyJeff | talk 19:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Even then, I'm generally not too happy with the prose of the lead. It needs work. I hope these points can be clarified, so that we can continue to other aspects. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 18:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ankitbhatt. Thanks for taking on this review. I will do all I can to improve the article during the process. For your part, please be aware of Wikipedia:GA_Criteria, and especially Wikipedia:What_the_Good_article_criteria_are_not, which concerning the Well-written criteria says that the reviewer must check that in the article: "The meaning of each sentence or paragraph is clear and not confusing, even if you might have phrased it differently." It also says the the reviewer should not be: "Imposing your own stylistic preferences or national variety of English on the article text." Please do not get too picky about every single word. That is not the intent of the GA review process. BollyJeff | talk 19:08, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you. I am aware of the criteria, and as far as I can see, my points mentioned are not stylistic but some genuine problems such as grammar or incorrect info. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 04:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I deeply apologize for the long break I have taken. I will now continue the review. I am still not happy with the lead, but I'll let that go for the moment since the rest of the article also needs attention ;-

The Development section is one hell of a mess.

I can't see having a quote by Chopra and then announcing that she is in the film afterwards, but I have re-worded this section a bit. BollyJeff | talk 02:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is barely the tip of the iceberg. The entire section needs a copy-edit, balancing and prose improvement. Please get to these points soon. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 14:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. Some minute flaws in the changes :-
  • The plot section now has "is undergoes", which is obviously wrong.
  • The Development section has "commercial success of the Roshan's ..." The italicized part should not be there.
  • "hoped that this film would be remembered" It should be the film. Many other silly grammar mistakes present, such as " the Indian film industry is the equal to Hollywood", extra commas in the international significance bit.
  • "with many visual effects on par with" No need of many.
  • "who had previously worked on Godzilla and Independence Day," Is there supposed to be a "respectively", or did both the experts work on both the films? Besides, I'm not really sure that aspects regarding the film's visual effects come under the "Development". It should ideally be in Filming (or a Post-production section if you can create one with sufficient content).
It wasn't in the sources so I removed it. BollyJeff | talk 16:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have luckily found a replacement which will give some information regarding the VFX :- Difeature: Krrish sets new benchmark for special effects in Hindi cinema. Hope this helps. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 08:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Avoid writing "shot", use the more encyclopedic "filmed".
The article was dinged in an informal peer review for having "the film" too many times. Also, it would then read "the film was filmed", which is also very repetitive. Is it really that bad as is? BollyJeff | talk 16:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the The Gateway" Extra "the".
  • "Shruti Bhasin of Planet Bollywood liked it a lot" Not encyclopedic. Give a more formal tone to the sentence.
  • There is too much weight on Taran Adarsh's review. Each review deserves no more than two lines (preferably one).
  • In fact, the entire India section is very weirdly written. For one, there are too few reviews which is causing lot of unwanted excerpts to be added. Additionally, the section does not read in an appealing manner. I suggest re-wording and some digging up to expand the section suitably.
I searched for hours, and could only find one additional critical review from a reliable source. It was not very good, so the mixed summary is okay (I also provided a source specifically saying that it got mixed reviews). BollyJeff | talk 02:27, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I found one more review - a highly important one, at that :- Masand's Verdict: Krrish-crass. But the section still does not read well. There is too much of content from a single review, which we should avoid. Cuts are needed. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 08:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The starter says that the film received mixed reviews in India, but I haven't seen even one negative review except the rather ambivalent TOI review. This fails neutrality and comprehensiveness. Rapid improvement needed.
  • "Overseas reviews were consistently good." Please re-word to the standard use such as "Overseas reviews were generally positive" so as to be more encyclopedic.
Otherwise, the article is alright save for the still-unsatisfactory lead. I shall check the references tomorrow. In the meanwhile, I'm sure a majority of the above points can be cleaned up. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 15:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Everything above has now been completed. BollyJeff | talk 13:37, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies again for a long break; I got cooped up with another GA review. I'll complete my review today in the hope of passing this article tomorrow (at max).

It is 782, considerably less than when I started. We can discuss. BollyJeff | talk 01:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So professional journalists can use bad tense, but we can't? Ha ha :-) BollyJeff | talk 01:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
the film, the film, the film - I counted how many times "the film" is in the article already 27. Oh wait, its okay; I just checked Ra.One, would you believe that "the film" appears 185 times? Too much. BollyJeff | talk 01:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise alright. Hopefully these should be rectified quickly. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 15:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References
I cannot. Sources that require subscription are not preferred. Since it is a duplicate ref, I will delete it.
What better source can there be about the awards that were won then the award presenter's web site? This article is not about IIFA, which would make it first party, it's about a film. BollyJeff | talk 13:25, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These are major reference problems which must be rectified before GA passing. One small point: In the article, avoid the word "kid". Use the encyclopedic "children". ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 08:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will try, but will probably just have to delete the information or let you fail it. BollyJeff | talk 13:25, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the references are complete now. BollyJeff | talk 14:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More:

I think so, see here] BollyJeff | talk 02:22, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the information :D. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 05:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I will consider it, but not right this minute. BollyJeff | talk 02:22, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 05:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, this article is ready to go. Finish this fast and it will be a GA hopefully by today. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 08:23, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Final review
The article has good prose, and any grammar problems have been fixed. The MOS is followed throughout, and is clear in its tone.
The content has been uniformly cited to reliable sources, and gives a number of inline citations and wikilinks to clarify the possibly technical content. The article is free from original research.
The article covers all the major aspects of the film, and does not deviate into unnecessary details.
The article is written with a fair, unbiased and balanced way, with no instances of excessive praise/criticism.
Apart from the necessary GA review points, the article is stable and free from edit wars.
Though lacking in this department, there is no content which desperately requires illustration except the poster. This point must be clarified later.

In view of the above points, I hereby pass the article as a GA. Congratulations. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 06:24, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]