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User:Lommer said: Rm roland hanna - he's may be knighted but that's not what this page is about
I'd like to disagree. The first sentence in the article says "Jazz royalty is a term that reflects the many great jazz musicians who have some sort of royal title in their names or nicknames."
Sir Roland Hanna certainly qualified. Not only is he a 'real' knight, he has been billed as Sir Roland Hanna ever since. He may not be in the same realm as the Count, or the Duke, but he's certainly on par with Paul Paul Quinichette and Sharkey Bonano.
Anyhow, I'd like to restore it. Any other comments? -- SeanO 05:39, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
What about Dr. John? He's not royalty, but it is a term of respect. OmnipotentEntity 18:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Dr. John is not really a Jazz musician--doesn't quite fit here. Blueswalk (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Why was "The Jazz Singer" listed here, under the Blues section no less? I removed this reference to Al Jolson.67.132.198.226 19:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Matt
In Earliest jazz "monarchs" in New Orleans, I feel like The New Orleans Rhythm Kings's mention in here is completely random and unnecessary. Royalty is for one person typically, not a band. Correct me if I'm wrong. Eiceman (talk) 01:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I never heard of John Coltrane being called "The Master Blaster," I've heard him called many other things such as "the trane" and be known as a bishop of jazz royalty, but I have no sources sited at the time to back that up. I'll willing to learn so if you find anything about this. I would love to see it. Eiceman (talk) 01:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think Frank Sinatra belongs on a list of jazz musicians.--74.178.227.26 (talk) 22:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
What about Dame Shirley Basey? 99.235.116.204 (talk) 17:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
I see someone put a prod on this page recently, and I think its valid. I really dont think there is any source one can find of grouping these nicknamed musicians together under a term "jazz royalty". I suspect it is OR. However, I can see there is interesting and useful and verifiable information which can be salvaged from this article (but 90% is probably off to the dump), but to what use should it be put? An article on musicians nicknames I think is worthwhile, but I cant imagine what it would be named to keep it encylopedic. Anyone with ideas, come forth now, as I think this article is about to see its unfortunately rightful demise. Russeasby (talk) 17:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it's a valid entry but needs revision. I'm very familiar with the term Jazz Royalty, but this piece may be taking it too literally--I don't think the use of the term is that codified--or that it directly relates to who is famous enough to have a nickname. I think a reference piece on famous Jazz nicknames is quite valauble--perhaps this should be restructured as such. Blueswalk (talk) 22:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC) 22:25, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Content irrelevent to jazz royalty has become an ever larger part of this article. Jazz nicknames, in my opinion, is a reasonable topic to be covered somewhere on Wikipedia, but are not the stated topic of the article. So what to do? One possible option that occurs to me is moving this article to "Jazz nicknames", and making the discussion of "jazz royalty" just one small section of it. Alternatively, we could keep this article focused on jazz royalty, and spin off a seperate article, something like "list of jazz nicknames". Other thoughts? -- Infrogmation (talk) 01:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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If anyone cares to do some actual work on this article, see older versions with much more information and history eg [1] and take some time to google references. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)