This article contains links to non-existent article about each of the high officers of state. The only article which does exist is about the Lord High Chancellor of Sweden. It actually contains less information than is here. Is anyone planning to write articles on these subjects, or should they simply be de-linked with all references directing here? Sandpiper 12:30, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
The result of the debate was no move per m:The Wrong Version. I don't see much in the way of rationales here to move it back as much as I see people wanting to move it back because it used to be there. While it is admittedly not a Good Thing to move the page without any discussion, you're going to need to discuss this anyway and you may as well do that now rather than later. Kyle Barbour 23:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
High Council of Sweden → Privy Council of Sweden — This article was renamed to "High Council of Sweden" by User:Suedois with any previous discussion. I don't see why this article should have any other name than other privy councils that exist (e.g. Privy Council of the United Kingdom, Privy Council of Ireland etc.). Slarre 01:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
"Privy" Council is a British term, and if you compare the explanations given at privy council, you see that an also the fact it does not fit with the Swedish organ throughout its history. They were not an inner circle dependent on monarch's favor, they often formed an opposite force against ruler, being a constitutional body. The council existed and functioned in times when Swden did not have a king or queen as ruler - and they were the highest organ of suchlike "republic" of nobility then. There are valid theories that membership in the body was recognized as hereditary to some noble families - in this sense, this eas more like House of Lords. When asked for translations, riksråd translates directly "Realm's Council". Of course, it was highest of the country's various councils. When Sweden got organization resembling more the autocracy etc, its name, new, actually was "kunglig råd", royal council. And when it got modern forms, that organ was statsråd, council of state.Historical accuracy does not support "privy council". Suedois 06:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
There are so many terms floating around in literature that I cannot remember where each individual such is. If you look at the article's own terminology, and its edit history, to some editors this has been Senate, to some Council of State, to some Cabinet, to some High Council, to some Royal Council, to some Council of Realm, and to some just Council of Sweden. And, many of those were just a moment ago present, confusingly, in portions of the text. Name of this is not a simple thing, sorry. Worst is if someone just barges in and demands it to be a british privy council. We should have a proper study of the matter, and discard this in-barged vote. User:Suedois 06:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. --Philip Baird Shearer 13:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, if we must get to L.A. via Omaha then so be it.
High Council of Sweden → Privy Council of Sweden or something else – for any reason other than the fact that "Privy Council of Sweden" was the original title and the recent move to "High Council of Sweden" was not discussed. — AjaxSmack 02:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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Comment - Just for the record, I hope this page doesn't stay at its current location in the case of "no consensus". -- Exitmoose 00:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Since it appears that the page will be moved back to its former title, the sections below are to continue the discussion on what the best title is and what scope of the article should be. ~ AjaxSmack 07:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
The connexion between the Riksråd and the later Statsråd is tenuous at best. Swedish Wikipedia has separate articles and the article for sv:Statsrådet is a one sentence stub that says something to the effect of "Statsrådet is the name for the government of Sweden after 1809." Therefore, maybe the info here that deals with the Statsråd can be merged with Government of Sweden as a historical section. Please comment. ~ AjaxSmack 07:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
If the article should be primarily or exclusively about the riksråd, is "privy council" the best term for riksrådet ? If anyone is versed in this subject please comment on which form or forms usually appear in the relevant literature. Some points to ponder: The German synonym Reichsrat often translates as "royal" or "imperial council." Wikipedia already has Rigsraadet as a generic article for all of the Scandinavian councils. See also SigPig's citations above which suggest "state council" of "council of the realm." ~ AjaxSmack 07:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)