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I couldn't follow this article. What are the three pillars? Where does the EC (EEC) fit in?
Hope it is clearer now. At present the article mentions a lot of obscure legal and historical points, which probably should be moved into seperate sections. E.g. an introductory article which outlines what the EU is, and a more detailed article with all the legal and historical technicalities. -- Simon J Kissane
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IIRC there is no need to apply or hold a residence permit for EU or EEA citizens. EU and EEA citizens are basically free to live anywhere in the Union they want, provided they can support themselves; they don't need permits. Only non-EU/EEA citizens need to. -- Simon J Kissane
No, you are mistaken, Simon. In order to get tax and social security status in Luxembourg, you need a residency permit. This applies to other EU countries (France, Netherlands are for sure). sjc
But what happens to an EU citizen that doesn't apply for a permit? What can be done to them? I think the European Court of Justice's jurisprudence on the freedom of movement is rather liberal -- SJK
They can be fined at least. Maybe kicked out of the country too: I don't know. There was a court case in the Netherlands a while ago where a lawyer was prosecuted for giving an Englishman a false job, so he could get a residence permit. Without a job, obtaining a permit may be difficult, since "provided they can support themselves" in practice means that they need to prove that they have an income of some arbitrary amount (depending on the country) per year, or meet some other condition such as family/student/pensioned.
At Heathrow, I explain I am there to get married. The Immigration (Customs?) agents says, "you know that doesn't mean you can live here..." I explain that my born-and-raised in England to English parents husband and I live in Germany, where we work. He repeats that he just wants to make sure that I understand I can't expect to be allowed to live in the UK. I explain that it's not an issue. He replies by telling me I will need to apply for a residence permit, but it's not guaranteed.
So, I get married. The marriage license is in English only (despite there being an EU regulation that legal documents have to be in several EU languages).
Is there? Can you quote me which regulation this is please? -- GWO
They are not available in other languages. I have it translated and notarized for the Germans, who demand that people follow the rules. I take it, 50 marks, my passport and new passport pictures, and my husban'd residence permit to the Immigration office in the German city where we live. The civil servant (normally unpleasant in the way civil servants tend to be) smiles hugely, congratulates me on my marriage and, 15 minutes later, hands me my residence permit. I mentioned my surprise at the ease of the whole process -- the civil servant replied that Germany was in the EU, my husband was an EU citizen, and legally, I was entitled to EU rights, despite being an American. Why should there be a question?
Every time I go to England, I get the same hassle, though. Funny thing is, I know a lot of UK citizens living in Germany. Many of them have lost their jobs, sometimes several times over. They aren't asked to leave...just given more training and stipends to get them through until they are employed again.
My point? I think you'll find that each EU country applies the rules somewhat differently, but that the UK tries to evade as many of the rules that threaten its insularity as it can.
EUobserver.com: Moving within the EU to get easier --Ann O'nyme 00:44, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)
As far as the EEC is concerned I thought it was the European Economic Community which is what the UK signed up for after its referendum. The EEC was (and I'm a bit too young to know this all) basically a free trade zone with now tarrifs and a common agricultral policy. Since then the EEC has evolved into the EU (The European Union) and moving to more political union (social chapter, central bank, euro etc...). Of course I await my correction :-) -- Alex.
Alex: IIRC, the UK joined the European Communities (the European Economic Community, the European Coal and Steel Community, and EURATOM) in 1973, before the referendum, under a Conservative government. Then Labour was elected, who at first said they were going to quit the EEC, but then said they would hold a referendum and let the voters decide. In 1975, the UK electorate voted to remain a member.
The European Union (and the social chapter, the euro, etc.) was established by the Maastricht treaty in 1991. But moves to political union weren't new -- the European Defence Community and European Political Community were proposed in the 1950s, but they never got off the ground. And Jean Monnet, the originator of the plan for the European Coal and Steel Community (which started the whole process off), always intended it to be the first step along the road to political union.
Of course you might say that is not what the British electorate was told, and you are probably right. The attitude of European governments towards the EU has always been ahead those of their electorates: constructing something like the EU is inherently an elite project, not a popular one. -- SJK
Eob: the figure you gave for the European Union, is that the whole EU or just the metropolitan EU? Some, but not all overseas territories of its member states count as part of the European Union: e.g. French Guyana is part of the EU, but Greenland isn't. -- SJK
What is "sui generis"? Could we have a definition or a link for this term please :) - MMGB
Just testing out layout for the section on members. Is this clearer than the current formatting? -- Tarquin 00:40 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
At present, the European Union comprises 15 member states. In 1950 the six founding members were:
Nine further states have joined in successive waves of enlargement:
Negotiations are currently underway for the enlargement to a further 12 member-states: Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Malta and Cyprus; the initial admission of new states is expected around 2004.
Hey all, do you think the map is too big? I also have a smaller version as image:Europeanunion-small.png, but the text isn't as clear. --Brion
I have a crazy idea: How about applying the template from Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries to this page?
Think about it, the EU has a flag, a capital (Brussels), a national anthem (the "Ode to Joy"-bit from Beethoven's ninth), a currency (well, more or less..), and it's ranking in population and area is already given in the article. Granted, it is not by any definition a country per se, but it still has a lot of things in common with large, federalized countries. Is this (the template) a good idea? Would it be highly inappropriate? --Gabbe 15:27 Jan 16, 2003 (UTC)
it needs to be re-worded abit, i know one dya Europe will become one big super sate its al;ready beginig to happen, but the wording of the table make it look to much like a country. -fonzy
I would say I'm against trying to force applying the template on something it was not meant for. The EU is not in any way, shape or form a conventional country nor is it a federation, a situation likely to remain for quite a few years to come. The work so far on the table (now moved to European Union/Temp) demonstrates this, many fields are incorrect or misleading. We can certainly take certain elements from the template and use it in the article, but trying to force the template on it is a bad idea, IMO. -Scipius 19:47 Jan 16, 2003 (UTC)
I am checking the related pages to Hungary's vote for joining the EU on April 12, 2003, and just realised that there is no "status" about the future members, which one voted already, which said "NO" (and how many times :-)) and what's the next step and when. (In case of Hungary, for example, the next step is signing in 2004 since both the country and the EU accepted the deal.) --grin 12:28 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)
The list of members by the map is slightly mangled on my computer(800x600 resolution). Can anyone fix this? Thanks. -netcrusher88 1:17 Jun 9, 2003 (UTC)
I'm going to delete this bit: Spain: Balearic Islands (Majorca, Minorca, Ibiza, and Formentera) in the Mediterranean, Canary islands in the Atlantic Ocean, Ceuta and Melilla in North Africa. All these territories are integral parts of EU, with no special status. Marco Neves 13:57, 17 Aug 2003 (UTC)Marco Neves
Bearing in mind thes sections of the EC Treaty:
'Article 299' 3. ... This Treaty shall not apply to those overseas countries and territories having special relations with the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which are not included in the aforementioned list [annex II of the Treaty]. 4. The provisions of this Treaty shall apply to the European territories for whose external relations a Member State is responsible. [...] 6. Notwithstanding the preceding paragraphs: (a) this Treaty shall not apply to the Faeroe Islands; (b) this Treaty shall not apply to the sovereign base areas of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Cyprus; (c) this Treaty shall apply to the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man only to the extent necessary to ensure the implementation of the arrangements for those islands set out in the Treaty concerning the accession of new Member States to the European Economic Community and to the European Atomic Energy Community signed on 22 January 1972.
Wouldn't Gibraltar be considered a part of EU? Because: (a) In spite of being excluded since it is not mentioned in the list of Annex II quoted in the above section 3, it is included in EU by section 4 (in fact, Gibraltar is one of the few territories that this section seems to apply). (b) Gibraltar is NOT mentioned in section 6., which excludes some European territories from EU membership, which would be granted under section 4. So Gibraltar is considered part of the EU by section 4. of art. 299. Moreover, Gibratarians will vote in the next European Parliament elections. So, why is Gibraltar considered not part of EU in this article of Wikipedia? If no good answer be posted here, I'll take the responsability of changing the article my self in a few days. Cheers to all!
FYI: JUDGMENT IN THE CASE OF MATTHEWS v. THE UNITED KINGDOM, delivered at Strasbourg on 18 February 1999, that force the UK to organise vote for EU parlement in Gibraltar. --Ann O'nyme 02:51, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Gibraltar has to adopt the EURO the same way the British bases of Akrotiri and Dekhelia in Southern Cyprus have done.
How about moving past enlargement, European Coal and Steel Community... to History of EU or in a new section of History of Europe? --Ann O'nyme 05:15, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I've added a link to History of the European Union. I'm also creating a separate page Enlargement of the European Union which will include all the current stuff about enlargement plus some more details. -- Cabalamat 19:37, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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Good article by now! Certainly with deficits. Lear 21 19:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC) |
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The first part of the culture section deals mostly with European culture and lacks a clear link between the EU and the culture of Europe. I think it should be reworked or removed. Yakikaki (talk) 16:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
I've just looked over the "Overview of EU Institutions" section. It's bad. Very bad. it oversimplifies to the point of being misleading. EU explained (talk) 11:08, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
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The sentence "The European Union accumulated a high portion of GDP as a form of foreign aid than any other economic union" is ungrammatical. The use of the word "high" is probably a typo and "higher" is the intended word. Seewalker (talk) 07:50, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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Could the colors for the corresponding religions be made the same? For example, on the map, the Protestant areas are marked as deep blue, and the Orthodox areas are teal, but in the diagram, it's the opposite. Could they be swapped in either case?--Adûnâi (talk) 17:38, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
The EU as it is now was planned long before the 1953 mention. It was designed a book called "Practicher Idealismus". And I think it deserves an entire section, as they previously handed out a solid gold, tax payer paid award called "The Charlamagne Award". Yoi can look it up. Its awarded to whom has caused the most removal that yeat of the white natives religions and race. Before you call me racist, look it up. They dont even hide it anymore, Now they just renamed it The Kalergi Prize.
It 100 percent needs covering.
Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi. Now, look at his page and tell me why he isn't mentioned. He came up the anthem, 40 years before we in Europe were told it was a trading bloc. You have not talked about the true start and reason for the EU. DoctorDecker (talk) 06:54, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Two nations were forced to retake this until a yes answer was given. Why is this not mentioned? It also meant that all military forces belong to one unelected official as of April 1st this year. Why do you think Brexit happened on the 31st March (the signing of Article 50). The UK did not want an unelected official taking The UKs nuclear weapons and entire army. DoctorDecker (talk) 06:58, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Apologies for my spelling erors. I meant to say "years", in the top section. DoctorDecker (talk) 07:05, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
The lyrics that play when the Ode to Joy media is played are incorrect. Those are the lyrics to the 20th century American gospel tune "Joyful, Joyful We Adore Thee" ("Hymn of Joy"). The only thing they have in common with Beethoven's Ode to Joy is Beethoven's melody and the word "joy". The lyrics here (being an American religious hymn) would be unrecognizable to Beethoven and probably most of the EU. The hymn is popularly known in the US (outside of religious circles) mainly because of its inclusion in the movie Sister Act 2.
The lyrics should either be removed or replaced with something more recognizable. The EU anthem is officially an instrumental, but the original Schiller lyrics are often used, or some language adaption of them. Using an American gospel contrafactum is ridiculous in this context.
I agree. It's a total lie!!!! We all know it here, so who are you appeasing? Think we will forget when The EU falls? Did Der Stermur staff get kept on after Ww2? Or the Pravda press for Stalin? This is NO different. DoctorDecker (talk) 07:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
There is no coverage of European Identity because they want us dead!! Look at the damned motto. You think I joke???! DoctorDecker (talk) 07:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Considering the United Kingdom is (presumably) leaving the EU in a few years time, should the continued use of BritEng on this article be reconsidered? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 08:19, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Well my angry French cousin. We haven't left the continent. Europe IS NOT the EU. And dont worry. We will be back, in about two years to help you out...again. We do it the third time because you are family. Just keep Normandy clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoctorDecker (talk • contribs) 07:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC) DoctorDecker
Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi chose the song. It's his "finale to The Gentile Race". Read his book! DoctorDecker (talk) 07:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
I quote that. It was the biggest voting turn out in Britains 4789 year history. And it was 17.2 million people more. That is as big as a few countries populations combined in Europe! Nevermind The EU! (Which is not Europe). DoctorDecker (talk) 07:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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Many articles have criticism section why this should be any different? second, the excuse of "there is no support section either" is plain stupid. There are many articles with criticism section and no support section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.205.60 (talk) 17:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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Change "political and economic union" to "country" because the member-states of the EU do not have sovereign autonomy from one another and share a common government and currency. 70.168.37.88 (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
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I wanted to link a student's sandbox to see if anything useful could be pulled from it: User:Cchigoche/sandbox. They created a draft, but didn't add anything as far as I can tell. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
There seems to be a common misconception that the UK will leave the EU in March 2019. This is untrue, however. The UK and EU will start a transitioning process for the UK to leave in 2019. This process will last to and end on December 31 2020. Meaning the UK will officially have left the EU on January 1 2021, if everything goes as planned. [5] 92.220.75.86 (talk) 05:20, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Links to wrong article, which can be found here and at other places. Don't want to fix it myself, as the fn has a bunch of text included and could be difficult to reformat.-Shtove (talk) 15:51, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Quote: 'The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 28 member states that are located "primarily" in Europe.' The word primarily is superfluous as ALL member states are in Europe.
Also I saw no mention of the Marshall Plan which initiated the idea of a United States of Europe, and the development of this superstate is not dealt with; for instance no mention of plans for Nuclear armed EU Army. The position of other member states as well as the UK having substantial numbers wanting to leave, roughly the same percentages as the UK vote, and the likelihood of several major players holding referenda in the coming years. With current challenges to the stability of the EU and the safety of the 'open borders' question, there is a possibility that the EU will break apart in the future as first one then another vote to leave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PetePassword (talk • contribs) 11:38, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi, the map in the section Member States has links embedded that take you to the respective country’s article – nice! Only Croatia doesn’t have such a link yet, and I don’t know how to fix that. Any pointers?--Geke (talk) 15:51, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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this line?
or this one? 174.82.196.148 (talk) 13:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
The source cited for GDP seems dubious to me in this context because it an IMF forward projection, not a factual record. Can someone find a better source? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Some piece of information are missing here.
A support section could be added. It could include, for instance the support could be expressed as “Our destiny is in Europe, as part of the Community.” by Margaret Thatcher and the invention of single market bt herself[1].
Also the artcle could include the mention that “The EU was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 2012, in recognition of the organization’s efforts to promote peace and democracy in Europe.” as Britannica does.
Britannica also deal with Single European Act and foreign policy.
Britannica also says that “A variety of legal, technical, fiscal, and physical barriers continued to limit the free movement of goods, labour, capital, and services”.
Britannica also says that:
There are also missing critics: “In the debate on the future of the EU, fundamental institutional issues are – for the first time since the signing of the Lisbon Treaties – again under discussion. Should the Presidency of the Commission and the European Council be merged? Are “Spitzenkandidaten” and transnational lists needed for the European Parliament elections? And how can national parliaments be strengthened in the European context?” — Jacques Delors Institut – Berlin [6] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.103.27 (talk) 08:51, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Someone seems to have copy-pasted a report on the UK leaving the EU in the competences section, and it flies in the face of proper Wikipedia formatting / style. Doubletriplereversepsychology (talk) 2016-06-24 18:31 UTC
It looks like very few information is missing for this article to be rated as Good Article.
My proposal of sections to add is as follow:
To assert that a club of sovereign independent nations (who have agreed to act as one in some areas, notably excluding defence) is an "emerging superpower" is controversial at best. Great claims need great evidence and one book by one person [whose notability and competence is not demonstrated - is he one of the list at John McCormick and if so which one?] is not sufficient. More importantly, material in the lead section of every article should summarise the major themes in the article (see wp:lead) so one should expect that there is a substantial section in the body that amplifies that material. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:21, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Could somebody help, I am trying to determine exactly when did the EU come into existence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.253.166 (talk) 21:00, 9 August 2018
I believe somewhere in the article it says 27/28 countries have a 'very high' HDI; the new results have been out on the 14th of September 2018, and I believe 28/28 are very high now. Maybe this can be accentuated earlier in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy@ACS (talk • contribs) 18:11, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
United Nations membership | |
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Membership | Full member |
Since | 24 October 1945 |
UNSC seat | Permanent |
Ambassador | Karen Pierce |
Could and should we create a new infobox similar to the one shown above but for EU member states? It could have on it the date of accession, the number of European Parliament seats and also the permanent representative as well as the current Prime Minister and President As member of the EU council. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 08:04, 5 October 2018 (UTC))
Can a article please be set up to show not only current bilateral relations between the European Union and the United Kingdom but for also when the UK leaves the EU in 2019, I know the UK has not left the block as of yet however a article should be started anyway being as perceptions of the EU are very different in the UK to that of other EU member states. Also such a article would help to show where the UK has opted out of various projects of the EU such as the Euro and etc. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 13:53, 4 October 2018 (UTC))
This discussion seems rarher pointless. We already have the article History of European Union–United Kingdom relations. Dimadick (talk) 19:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
The relevant policies are wp:crystal and wp:recent. When it happens and it is clear from reliable sources what has happened, then we report it. It must be obvious that relations will be very different depending on which of the possible outcomes actually happens. Meanwhile, we must wait and see. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 15:25, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
I only edited myslef to make it much better, but you "don´t like", apparently, any of them, so i would like to ask in each case why you don´t wanna let me edit myself and why you are against each change. --BernardaAlba (talk) 12:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
7. Why did you change French version of European Health Insurance Card to Slovenian?
And about the other 3 changes:
8. Congress of Vienna.
9. Finland lake.
10. Environement Agency in copenhague.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=European_Union&diff=next&oldid=863995859 It was an edit war between Slovakian and Spanish plates, I didn't liked the reverts on this. So, the compromise solution is to have Romanian plates.
It NEVER was an edit war between slovakian and spanish plates. It was slovakian, and i was fine with it, but i changed it into lativan because i added something else about slovakia. I reached a consensous with the other person not to include the new slovakian thing, so it was decided to mantain it like it was on the first place, slovakian. --BernardaAlba (talk) 13:01, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
In the EU Page the percentage of religions it's wrong. Please correct. Livone (talk) 16:55, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
I tried to find a good definition for this particular term that is used in the FAQ above about why is there is no criticism section, but I cannot find one, neither in dictionary or google sources. RexImperium (talk) 21:27, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
BREXIT MEAN BREXIT UK IS OUT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.93.231 (talk) 16:30, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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The "Media" sections doesn't adequately reflect the current situation in the EU. How free the news media of most countries in Central Europe are is up to debate, considering Concentration of media ownership etc., however in large parts of Eastern Europe the situation is really bad: The state owns lots of media outlets, strong limitations on free speech, intimidation of free media and much more. This is also reflected by the Freedom House scores, which rate some countries in Eastern Europe as "unfree". The section should appropriately reflect restrictions placed on the media in large parts of Eastern Europe. 2003:CD:7F0C:3900:7054:98B2:51FF:604E (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I propose the second line be edited to start as below. The reason being: after basic facts should come origins and achievements. At the moment origins are missing. I suggest that the second World War was a clear differentiator in the ideas of forming a European Union and that Churchill's 1946 address was the earliest significant/influential address covering the subject.
Proposed edit: The EU... originated in ideas of federation, confederation, or customs union such as Winston Churchill's 1946 call for a "United States of Europe[2]" and... 14:44, 24 January 2019 2400:4070:3640:c100:d900:5382:736a:422a
"By the signature of this Treaty, the involved parties give proof of their determination to create the first supranational institution and that thus they are laying the true foundation of an organised Europe. This Europe remains open to all European countries that have freedom of choice. We profoundly hope that other countries will join us in our common endeavour."[3]
--John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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"In 1929, the latter gave a speech in favour of a European Union before the assembly of the League of Nations, precursor of the United Nations.[41] In a radio address in March 1943, with war still raging, Britain's leader Sir Winston Churchill spoke warmly of "restoring the true greatness of Europe" once victory had been achieved, and mused on the post-war creation of a "Council of Europe" which would bring the European nations together to build peace."
Very specifically goes from 1929 to 1943, leaving out entirely Hitler and Nazi Germany's stated goals of restoring the German Empire (which was based on the Roman Empire), establishing a single European currency and by-and-large succeeding in creating a unified European continent under Nazi rule.
I find it very telling that this dark part of history has been seemingly left out on purpose despite how relevant it is to the section. I think there should, at the very least, be some references to Hitler's obvious goals and achievements regarding unifying Europe. And if this does not change it will be reasonable to assume those in charge of Wikipedia want no correlation between the EU and Nazi Germany, despite their geographical end goals being exactly the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:c7f:c024:9d00:bdf8:d73a:58f5:1dbb (talk • contribs) 18:05 29 January 2019 UTC (UTC)
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The 29 March 2019 needs to be changed to 12 April 2019 90.202.194.206 (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Every time biased editors here find a new excuse. The last one was that it will be changed on March 2019. So now what the new excuse is? and for how long are some editors here going to be biased and violating the rules of Wikipedia itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.142.2.203 (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Possessing the sole power of legislative initiative, the Commission is by definition the legislature of the Union, as expressed here: [1][2][3] This is consistent with Wikipedia's established definition of legislature, as expressed in Legislature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaurnheart (talk • contribs) 17:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC) While Parliaments in national governments are typically the legislature, it is made clear that the European Parliament is a unique institution, unlike national parliaments. Given the lack of sources, it seems that assumption is the reason behind the legislature being labelled as 'European Parliament'.
Alternatively, in conformity with the Politics section, it may be appropriate to either label the legislature threefold (Council, Commission, and Parliament) or simply to link to the Politics section, as the answer is not a simple one.
Vaurnheart (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I see the point you make about Private Member's Bills, but I would disagree that it is equivalent, since their difficulty is a circumstantial one (composition of the House) and not a legally impossible one, as in the EP (which can only send non-binding recommendations to the Commission as per the Lisbon Treaty). There is no equivalent to the PMBs in the EU: nothing can pass without the pre-approval of the Commission, so long as they "inform the European Parliament of the reasons" (Article 225 TFEU). I also wouldn't equate the Commission with the Government in the UK, since the UK's Government is elected. I definitely agree with your decision to simply link to the politics section. The co-decision process is too unique to compare to other legislatures, and we should leave it to readers to make their own judgement. I don't think anyone could express this arrangement in only a few words! Vaurnheart (talk) 14:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Another matter is that there is a tendency in parts of Wikipedia to describe the EU's legislative system as 'bicameral', between the Parliament and the Council of the EU, with the Commission apparently unimportant. I have been unable to find any evidence for this description either within the EU or without. I would suggest that we remove references to it, such as the Council of the EU as an "Upper House", and "the other half of the legislature is the Parliament", in favour of a more direct explanation. Allegory doesn't seem to fit here, nor have any evidencial basis. Vaurnheart (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2019 (UTC)