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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 September 2021 and 3 December 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Livg21. Peer reviewers: Etaolive2256, Earthslug.

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For future editors[edit]

Hello all! Because I started this page as an assignment for a class, I have not had time to expand it as much as I would like. If anyone is interested in this topic and/or improving this page, I suggest looking at the intersections of climate change and gender with nutrition and healthcare. Those are two subjects that the users below suggested I address and that I agree are very important, but that I did not read as in-depth about. Let me know if I can be of any help! Weatherby551 (talk) 02:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What school / university assigned you to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.175.37.10 (talk) 09:18, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review #1[edit]

Weatherby551, your article is fantastic! It's clearly organized (including the Case Studies section) and the subject matter is very current. I just have a few pieces of advice:

Overall, great work! This is an extremely important subject and you've given readers a lot of information about it. I can't wait to read your final article! Nadhika99 (talk) 23:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. - I added the course banner to your talk page. If you added the article to any WikiProjects, you might want to put those banners on your talk page also. Nadhika99 (talk) 23:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Nadhika, thank you for your detailed comments! These are really helpful. I agree that the lead section could be longer and more in-depth. I do think I need to support the statements in the article in more detail and make more explicit connections between different ideas; I will use the strategies you suggested to do that, explaining the causal relationship between climate change and weather patterns/natural disasters, between malnutrition and disease, etc.

In terms of images, I have already worked on adding some to my article in response to the peer workshops and have run into a bit of trouble. I spent some time looking around in the Wikimedia Commons and had a difficult time finding images that I felt directly related to my article. I inserted one already (as you can see) and I had uploaded a photo that I thought was under the correct Creative Commons license on Flickr, but later learned that I was wrong. I will try to find some of the images and figures you suggested, but I am limited by what already exists in the Wikimedia Commons/what other sources I am able to use on Wikipedia.

Thanks for your help! Weatherby551 (talk) 16:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Thanks for adding the banner! I had planned on doing that before I turned in this next assignment, so you just made my life a little easier. Weatherby551 (talk) 01:43, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review 2[edit]

ChloeCBlaskiewicz (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)ChloeCBlaskiewicz[reply]

Response

Hi Chloe,

Thanks for your comments! I actually thought that leaving out citations for the very broad statements lead sections are usually comprised of was a Wikipedia convention, but I will certainly look into that and add citations wherever possible. I agree that I am too vague in the policy section. I plan on revising to mention specific organizations and people. (Thanks for pointing out that I forgot to define UNDP--I didn't notice that!) As I told Nadhika above, I have had some difficulties finding relevant illustrations that I feel add to the article in the Wikimedia Commons, but I will do my best.

Thanks again for the help! Weatherby551 (talk) 01:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review comments[edit]

Here are some comments; I hope these are useful.

I'll add more comments later if I have time. Interesting article; thanks for asking me to review it! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Response

Hello Mike! Thank you so much for your helpful comments. I attempted to address them all with my recent edits, but if you find that I still have some of these problems or you think of more things I could do to improve, let me know. Thanks again for your hard work! Your advice definitely made this article better. Weatherby551 (talk) 02:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Effect on the ratio of men to women[edit]

This recently-publicized info seems like something that could be mentioned in this article: [1]. Cheers, -sche (talk) 17:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revision[edit]

Hello, I just finished editing a major revision of the article. I left almost every bit of the previous version intact but restrucutred the entire text and added some material. Here is an overview of the changes

I hope you agree with most of my changes, feedback is of course welcome!

Theo-bromin (talk) 15:29, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review 3[edit]

Many of the gender-change hyperlinks now direct to a "page not found" screen.

Conflict of logic between ""Due to their social standing, women in developing countries are not generally taught survival skills like swimming or climbing, meaning they are more likely to die in a natural disaster.", and the Bangladesh case study in which they are the ones teaching these skills.

In the Bangladesh case study, how does males migrating into the cities, which often contain infrastructure improvements to mitigate disaster damage, alter the death rate in comparison to rural areas? Between genders in a similar environment, urban vs rural, how do the per capita death rates during disasters compare?

"Climate change often results in an increase of out-migration of men. This leaves women with an increased work-load at home, resulting in a feminization of responsibilities." Wouldn't this imply that there is also a masculinization of the males duties? Namely to wander further afield in order to find an income for his family?

"CARE’s research shows that, when women are in control of the family income, it is more likely to be spent on human development." Vs male dominated investment in what exactly?

"Contribution to climate change is correlated to gender.[29] A study on car use in Sweden for example found that men are more likely to use the car more, for longer distances and alone compared to women, thereby exhausting more CO2 than women." What is the incidence of single income households though? How many of those are male supplied incomes? If a male is the main income earner and the female stays at home with the children, would it not generate such a pattern?

"concern over climate change has higher impact on Climate friendly consumption in women compared to men." Is this possibly related to differences in male and female shopping practices, or a sociological artifact?

that the 2°C aim, which is a reoccurring topic in the climate change debate, is not, as often assumed, a safe goal for all people on the planet. Rather it will ensure the stability of a patriarchal capitalism and subsequently the continuity of power for those who are powerful today." Isn't this the currently accepted temperature rise that is expected to push the environment into a cycle that we can't control? Ie the release of clathrates, acidification of the ocean and the dieback of most of the worlds coral reefs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.91.107.138 (talk) 22:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:Self reference[edit]

BobKilcoyne, regarding this, this and this, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Self-references to avoid#This Wikipedia article discusses ..., While Wikipedia is not a ..., Edit this page ... clearly states, "Mentioning that the article is being read on Wikipedia, or referring to Wikipedia policy or technicalities of using Wikipedia, should be avoided where possible."

It is not at all necessary to have the lead of this article begin with "This article looks at [so and so]." And per WP:Lead sentence, the lead sentence should define what the topic is about. Stating "This article looks at the relationships between climate change and gender." is not only unnecessary, it is stating the obvious. With this edit, I used the wording you used for the second sentence for the first sentence. No need to ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:37, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you stating that you don't think a self-reference is an issue in this case because WP:Self reference also states, "This means that while articles may refer to themselves, they should not refer to 'Wikipedia' or to the Wikipedia project as a whole (e.g. 'this website').", and your text didn't use the word Wikipedia? If so, it's still the case that the "This article looks at [so and so]." wording is unnecessary and redundant. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:46, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Flyer22 Reborn, thanks for your note. My main concern is that the opening words regarding the gender-differential effects of climate change understate the issue and the scope of the article. There are also gender-based differences in awareness of climate change, causation, and response to climate change (as in the third line of the introduction). I've made an amendment to clarify this, but I do actually think this could best be addressed by an opening statement that "this article covers …" - BobKilcoyne (talk) 08:06, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted your latest take, because we should not be bolding terms that don't redirect here. We bold titles, yes. See MOS:BOLDTITLE. I also reverted because this lead doesn't need five paragraphs. If you want to break it up into four paragraphs, feel free. But I don't understand your objection to the way the current the lead sentence is formatted. There is no need to separate "climate change" and "gender" like that. Since this talk page is on my watchlist, I ask that you don't ping me to it when replying. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:47, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As for "Gender-based differences have also been identified in relation to awareness, causation and response to climate change", I don't see why that shouldn't come after "This results not from biological differences due to one's sex, but from the social construction of gender roles and relations, which affect the accepted behaviors of men and women." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV[edit]

The writing and selection of sources creates a bias throughout the whole article, and seems to be attempting to blame men for climate change without taking into account the action of women, and does not adequately cover the negative effects men face compared to women. I will be updating the article over the next few days, and have put in a tag to alert readers to this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditSafe (talkcontribs) 07:57, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:Neutral, we go by what the literature states with WP:Due weight. Being neutral on Wikipedia does not mean what being neutral means in common discourse. Also see what Template:POV states. I removed your POV tag. We do not try to balance things out like you did here. That falls under WP:False balance.
Looking at your contributions, I see that you have already been warned about this type of editing by Sangdeboeuf.
Doug Weller, can I get your help on this? It's clear that this editor does not understand our WP:Neutral policy, and is set to be disruptive at this article as well. And I just don't want to exhaust my time myself on combating their edits. I'm more so inclined to report the editor at WP:ANI. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 02:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
When I post a warning on a user's talk page, I normally keep their talk page on my watchlist. There was no need to ping me here. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I addressed the editor here, not on their talk page. And I was under no obligation to address the editor on their talk page, and that includes just to mention/ping you. But fine. In the future, I will just state "editor" instead of mentioning or using your username. And if I start a WP:ANI thread on this editor, I will not mention you at all...directly or indirectly. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 03:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Better section headings?[edit]

Let's try to improve the section headings. They are currently not very good, i.e. not standard. With standard headings I mean things like Background, Types, Approaches, Opportunities, Challenges, History, Society and culture (whichever ones fit for this type of article). EMsmile (talk) 09:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it would be good to move in the direction of shorter/simpler section headings, though I don't think any could really be considered "standard".--Pharos (talk) 14:18, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moved content to India and Bangladesh articles[edit]

I have moved the content of the India and Bangladesh examples to the climate change country articles and left an excerpt here. I think it fits better that way. I was also going to move the South Africa content but I don't like how there are 4 paragraphs using just the one citation over and over. I think this needs to be very much compressed as it's an over reliance on a single source. Comments? EMsmile (talk) 14:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Few suggestion[edit]

Thank you that you care about Climate change and how it affects people. Climate change and its effect on genders is a severe issue. I chose this article because I am interested in how climate change affects different genders, not focusing on individual gender identity. The article is well written, enjoyable, and easy to read, but it lacks defining some issues. I have some suggestions:

- I think elaborating the article based on the non-binary female/ male system is crucial. Even though It mentioned in the lead section that analyzing the issue based on the binary system is incorrect, It didn't include other gender identities.

There is some of this covered at Climate change and gender#Gender inclusivity in climate change, but more could be defined and contextualized in a clear section. So far, the coverage focuses on discrimination related to disaster recovery resources.--Pharos (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Some of the links are missing; "other variables such as age, caste, marital status, and ethnicity" in the lead section, or " Rio Declaration on Environment and Development" in the content or last paragraph of the article.

- I was expecting to see all of the issues mentioned in the lead in content, but there weren't any details about the last paragraph (for example, how gender intersects with other factors).

- Some of the links in the references don't work, for example, references number 40 and 31.

- I think the references are not enough; articles rely on one reference that might not be enough in some points. ( for example, when it talked about case studies and when it says that women intend to donate their food during food scarcity)

-The article focuses on women and how they are more vulnerable to climate change effects; it is probably right, but since the article's topic is about "gender" and not "women," it is better to include all gender identities.

- The article's concentration is about developing countries and not how all genders worldwide may suffer from climate change.

- I think maybe combining the " Gender-blind mitigation policy" and " Gender-blind adaptation policy" is a better idea.

I think this makes sense, along with giving context for gender-blind vs. gender-sensitive policies.--Pharos (talk) 13:55, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nabaan (talk) 18:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Disrupting the Status Quo- Social Justice in Technical and Professional Com[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2022 and 2 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Sylvia.Noralez (article contribs).

Urban/rural and occupation[edit]

I think a somewhat missing area might be urban/rural factors as they intersect with gender and migration and occupation.--Pharos (talk) 14:14, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Ways Gender Equality can Help us Fight climate Change"[edit]

@Consolata Ndunda. I've removed the section you recently added. It read too much like advocacy in my opinion. A few other comments

Don't be discouraged! It's normal that edits don't stick on the first go. Please take the above in consideration and try to make a (possibly smaller) update to the article! Femke (talk) 19:11, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Femke Thank you for the information Consolata Ndunda (talk) 10:58, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Consolata Ndunda: make sure to also read your own user talk page as a few of us have written there recently but I am not sure if you've seen that. EMsmile (talk) 11:42, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ambassador Program course assignment[edit]

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In the sction of ==Gender-blind mitigation policy==[edit]

I didn't see any mentioning of the so-called gender-blind narrative in this section, can anybody help enlighten me? Thanks. ThomasYehYeh (talk) 12:56, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]