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Reviewer: Cavie78 (talk · contribs) 17:33, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


I'll take this one (and sorry it's taken so long for the article to be reviewed!) I notice that you put this article up for FA, so I'm going to be particularly picky with this review, to hopefully help you later if/when you decide to give FA another go Cavie78 (talk) 18:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

  • Well, the article is about the current definition though. Half the article is on the history of the term because the nationality wouldn't really make sense without understanding why it's limited in the way that it is.
  • Will address lack of info on having or not having right of abode.
  • I don't think it makes sense to repeat the number of status holders in the main body. It provides context up front for how many people the current regulations apply to. This stat in the lead also made it through FAC for British National (Overseas) and GAN for British protected person, so it'd be nice to keep it in the leads of all the articles in this series for consistency.
I appreciate that the article is about the current definition, but I think you need a brief mention in the lead of the context too, considering that takes up in the article. I'm not asking you to remove the stat from the lead, I'm saying I think it should be included in the body as well. It seems really odd that you give a figure in the lead, but don't state this in the body Cavie78 (talk) 20:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alright, reworded lead a bit to start with multiple definitions. Info on right of abode added as part of Rights and Privileges.

Development from feudal allegiance

  • Removed the word "allegiance" without really changing the meaning of the sentence. The model of social contract in that era was based on allegiance; that a person had a duty to serve their sovereign, who afforded his protection over the people that he was given a divine right to rule. When you ask if a country could swear allegiance to the Crown, I don't think that model applies like that. A local ruler could swear his loyalty to the Crown, but at the time of this case, that would have just included English feudal vassals.
  • Done.
  • Yep, an Act of Parliament per person. Two instances of these bills were passed in the 20th century (1911 and 1975).
  • Done.
  • Done.
  • Split off the next part of that sentence. Should make that bit easier to read.
  • Was implied that the UK was responsible for the colonies, but changed to make it explicit.

Transition to Commonwealth citizenship

  • It's actually referring to the Dominions asserting their ability to act separately from the UK.
I read it that London was making the assertions. Could you make this clearer? Cavie78 (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rephrased, should sound better.
  • Done.
  • Rephrased to more explicitly call out CUKC as the principal form.
  • Rephrased that part a bit, but wasn't sure what you were talking about that got mixed up.

Redefinition as residual nationality class

  • Done.
  • Done.

Acquisition and loss

  • Done.
  • Subject and action would be separated by that comma, so I don't think I agree with this.
Without the comma it's not clear whether you mean people not automatically connected with Ireland or people not connected with Ireland losing their nationality automatically Cavie78 (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rephrased to put Irish connection at the end of that sentence, should be fine now.
  • "British subjects may be stripped of the status if it was fraudulently acquired." Should be better.

Rights and privileges

  • Done
  • Also don't agree with this.
The reason I suggested this is it's not clear whether you're talking about people who became British citizens automatically, or people who became British citizens then losing their subject status Cavie78 (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should be better now.
  • Done.

Restrictions

Images

Sources

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General

  • The concept of allegiance like this isn't unique to Britain (the book Leviathan illustrates the social contract for Western monarchies of that era), but other countries didn't choose to split their citizenship/nationality six different ways. There's other less-than-full citizenship nationalities that exist, but none that are quite similar to this one.
  • This would only have been possible for British subjects connected to Ireland. Everyone else loses that status if they obtain any other nationality. Anyone doing this could have settled in a dependent territory and possibly wanted to get BDTC status to make it easier to get/retain belonger status or something (don't have other solid ideas of why anyone would have wanted to do this).
That's it from me, so I'm putting on hold. I notice you've already made changes so you might want to check my comments on the lead at the top of the review, as I've only just added. Ping me with any questions Cavie78 (talk) 19:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Horserice:. I've added a few replies Cavie78 (talk) 20:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all the hard work, the article has come along way in the past few years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.50.228 (talk) 08:56, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]