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Why do images keep getting removed? Every other article about an American ethnic group (Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Chinese Americans, Korean Americans, African Americans) all have sample images of celebrities from that ethnic group.
The people added to these images were people featured on the article List of Afro-Latinos. So if you dispute that they are Black Hispanics, please remove them all from that article as well.
Why should this be the only Wikipedia article about an ethnic group that doesn't feature photos?
--Mezaco (talk) 06:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
I added some links & 1 photo cause that was all i'm skilled enough to do. Hopefully, someone will put photos up for the links i provided.I'm not lazy, I just lack motivation. (talk) 03:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Most of the people on the pictures are not Black at all, but whitish. It's funny how Cameron Diaz is featured on both this page and the White Hispanic page, LOL! Someone with some more knowledge on the subject needs to revise this article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.234.92.239 (talk) 18:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Sooooooo, when are y'all gonna put the images back. I'm not lazy, I just lack motivation. (talk) 03:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
The word Latin alone implies this. This would included those from Brazil, São_Tomé_and_Príncipe, and Cape Verde. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bab-a-lot (talk • contribs) 22:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
User:Wikiscribe deleted the image of Carly Simon in the info box citing it as controversial. Why? Bab-a-lot (talk) 16:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Because there is conflicting reports on her ancestry even on her own article ,two there are better and plenty more and better examples of Black Hispanics please do not put her back again[1].--Wikiscribe (talk) 04:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
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I think that the below shows a fair representation of the phenotype distribution within the demographic. I gather that any more than 8 images in the gallery interferes with page usability. Please, nominate Infobox image gallery changes below and let's discuss this.
Bab-a-lot (talk) 19:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Bab-a-lot (talk) 05:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
That's an attractive shape to me. Also, regarding the order of the images, I'd say don't arrange the images in order of the person with the darkest skin color to the person with the lightest skin color, or vice versa. That would seem too much like a point was made to segregate the people by skin color. I don't have a problem with Carly Simon being in the gallery. If she's said herself that she has black in her, then I don't see any reason not to believe her. But others might doubt her inclusion in the gallery, so in that case it'd probably be convenient to add citation next to her name below the gallery. Dime789 (talk) 02:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
there are citaions that cite her as white and also in a bio book that is referenced in her article it say nothing about afro cuban ancestry there are conflicting sources on her, so it is best not to have of all people carly simon as the poster child for black hispanics if you are dead set on having white skinned afro ancestry hispanic for which there is no ambiguity how about Soledad O'Brien or Mariah Carey--Wikiscribe (talk) 06:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Also they should be American citizens or residents, this is about USA Afo Hispanics --Wikiscribe (talk) 06:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Celia Cruz lived in New Jersey and is even Buried in the Bronx she is fine to have but it is to bad that picture is not very good it is very blurry--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Adriana Lima should be included, because this article is about Black Hispanics from the Americas, not necessarily exclusively the US. Also, because the African diaspora ranges in extremes, one photo of Carly Simon doesn't adequately display the diversity. And there should be more males. Given the subject matter, it doesn't make sense to limit the subjects to any region within the Americas, especially a country that has a smaller Hispanic AND African descented population than other regions, i.e. Brazil.I'm not lazy, I just lack motivation. (talk) 04:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I am not saying this is untrue. But we need citation. At least judging from appearance, he appears to be much lighter and whiter than the rest of the people shown. He also has green eyes. TomNyj0127 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC).
2x, although he is Dominican he looks much more like a White-Indigneous or even pure European than Black. Yes there are tan Whites especially along the med sea. I also disagree with Dania Ramirez —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.35.90 (talk) 19:56, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
He is probably mixed with Black. I remember him stating that he was half Black and half Spanish. Secret killer (talk) 04:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
What source did you here that from though? It doesn't matter what the possibilities are. No one is in a position to assume. It's not like it is even that physically obvious either. TomNyj0127 (talk) 17:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
The different labels indicated different demographic that do not always overlap in ancestry, identity and/or heritage.
Firstly, there is a different between Latins and Latino people. While both groups have inherited culture and language from any of the Latin speaking countries the Latino label is reserved specifically for those who descent from the colonial legacy of the Americas.
Secondly, not all Hispanic people are Latino. Let's take the root demographic for example Indigenous/Native Spaniards of Spain. Their ancestry might range anything from Basque/Nordic, Southern Spaniard (with some North African admixture), or Gitano. These are long-term natives of Spain/Iberia. When they immigrate into the United States of America, they do not become Latino. Native Spaniards do not identify themselves as Latino, there is an identity and concept specifically reserved for the Americas. There are African descendants of mixed Hispanic ancestry who do not identify as Latino. Their histories are different. When they immigrate into the U.S. or the rest of the Americas, alone they have their own identity, history, consideration, apart from Latinos.
Subsequently, the indigenous people of Portugal do not consider themselves Latino.
Thirdly, the other populations of former colonies of Spain outside of the Americas (Equatorial Guinea, Spanish Equatoguineans, and the Philippines) are not Latino populations. They are African Hispanics (African identity having priority over Black identity) and Asian Hispanics. In these populations there is considerable mixed ancestry with Iberian Spaniards, minus Latino influence/ancestry. There are Asian Hispanics who are of either Negrito ancestry - the black indigenous population of parts of Asia, African-American, or African ancestry. They might even be mixed with Afro-Latino, but there needs to be a distinction between Black Hispanics and Black Latinos within the Asian diaspora (Afro-Asian Hispanics and Latinos).
Fourthly, there needs to be away to include African Portuguese of continental Africa. For example the indigenous African and Portuguese mixed populations of Angola, Cape Verde, Guinea Bissau, Mozambique and São Tomé and Príncipe are not African Hispanics, or African Latinos. But there are tied to the same Latin influence the population of Brazil has minus the Indigenous American heritage. However, there are 'some' cases where there is some admixture from repatriated Cuban and Brazilian slaves in former Portuguese (and Spanish) colonies. Still, this doesn't make the entire populations of these countries Latinos.
Fifthly, perhaps there could be an article specifically for African Latins, or African Portuguese to included the rather substantial population on the continent that is Portuguese speaking, cultured, and/or identified. It would also be where the diverse African descended population living in Portugal could be expanded upon.
Sixthly, the immigration of Afro- Latino, presently and during colonial times, into Spain, Portugal and it's subsidiaries should also be mentioned. The same could be mentioned of those immigrating into other Latin based countries like Italy.
Finally, it could be discussed the African descended population (minus the Latino element) in these other Latin based countries, like Italy. Bab-a-lot (talk) 13:40, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I've just removed the following text:
"There is also increasing intermarriages and offspring between non-Hispanic blacks and Hispanics of any race, especially between Cubans, Dominicans, Colombians and Puerto Ricans with African Americans, which increases both the Hispanic ethnic and black racial demographics. [2]"
The US Census Factfinder has no publications specifically discussing such intermarriage, and the online tables do not allow for such cross-referencing (i.e., having elicited any such information, although there is no actual way to do so, is WP:OR). Any such content must be sourced from a reliable secondary source. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:51, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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