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Does anyone else think that the military dictatorship should be mentioned on this page? It does seem relevant to an article called Military of Argentina. Two16 09:23 Jan 11, 2003 (UTC)
I just undid a revision here. Although Argentina was clearly well-defeated in the war, the tone of the change was neither encyclopedic nor neutral - more of a cheering section, so back it went.--MartinezMD (talk) 02:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Is this someone trying to be sarcastic? A "large-scale" military maneuver consisting of only 10 soldiers? If no one corrects it, I will delete "large scale" since it is inconsistent without an explanation (perhaps the rest of the operation was large?).--MartinezMD (talk) 06:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I've just reverted 200.123.143.158 (talk · contribs) on history of the military. Large changes such as blanking an entire paragraph are to be discussed in this talk page first. Besides, an article about the military in Argentina that overlooks the history of coups d'état of this country is clearly lacking... especially considering that the main occupation of the Argentine military between 1955 and 1983 (with the exception of Malvinas, of course) has been precisely producing one coup after another. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 01:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Much of the info recently added to this article would be more than welcome by the poor Foreign relations of Argentina.Mariano(t/c) 13:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
We cant have more than half of the article about this, also this subject is in Argentine Army too. I suggest move all that to a separate article a left here a short footnote Jor70 03:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
why is there no mention at all of this conflict and its effects on the Argentine military after the collapse of the dictatorship(military)
- Why do you think? The most notable Argentine operation omitted completely... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.189.67 (talk) 17:56, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
As stated in the current wikiarticle about the argentinian marine corps:
Hence, unless there is documented evidence to support keeping it as a "branch of service", I propose to remove the link to the "Argentine Marine Corps" from that list.
Kind regards, DPdH (talk) 09:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Albeit what's written in this section seems to be adequate (haven't yet checked relevant sourcing/referencing), I found a bit strange that nothing is said about the period before 1965 (which for the Army and Navy begins in the 1810's). Am I wrong, or this seems a bit biased? Can anyone please help improving this section? I don't have documented references handy to do it myself.
Thanks & Regards, DPdH (talk) 09:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
As user Mesoso2 pointed out, there is an apparent contradiction that might be caused by edition. Up to my knowledge, the PNA and the GN ("para-military" branches) are under control of the Interior Ministry, and the Army, Navy and Air Force are controlled by the Defence Ministry. Time provided, will research a bit using the official websites of the Argentinean forces and will try to resolve this contradiction.
Thanks & regards, DPdH (talk) 03:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I wonder why in an article about "all" the Argentine Armed Forces, only images from one of them (the Argentine Army) have been used to illiustrate it. IMHO, some pictures of elements of the other armed forces (Argentine Air Force, Argentine Navy, etc.) should be included, to make the article more "balanced".
Kind regards, DPdH (talk) 22:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, should we include a subsection about the Argentine's military preparation to reinvade the Falkland Islands? I believe that Argentina will make a second attempt when they feel they have enough forces to win! IQ125 (talk) 18:00, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
These two forces are under the security ministry, no under the defence ministry, and in this article all the data is about the defence ministry Hehex2020 (talk) 20:40, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
“ | there are two security forces, controlled by the Ministry of Security, which can be mobilized in occasion of an armed conflict: the National Gendarmerie, a gendarmerie used to guard borders and places of strategic importance; and the Naval Prefecture, a coast guard used to protect internal major rivers and maritime territory. | ” |
(emphasis added)
Both organisations were mobilised for the Falklands War.
According to Argentine National Gendarmerie:
“ | According to the Argentine Constitution, the armed forces cannot intervene in internal civil conflicts, so the Gendarmerie is subordinate to the Interior Ministry. It is defined as a civilian "security force of a military nature". It maintains a functional relationship with the Ministry of Defense, as part of both the National Defense System and the Interior Security System. It therefore maintains capabilities arising from the demands required by joint military planning with the armed forces. | ” |
(emphasis added)
Similarly according to Argentine Naval Prefecture:
“ | According to the Argentine Constitution, the Armed Forces of the Argentine Republic cannot intervene in internal civil conflicts, so the Prefecture is defined as a civilian "security force of a military nature". It maintains a functional relationship with the Ministry of Defense, as part of both the National Defense System and the Interior Security System. It therefore maintains capabilities arising from the demands required by joint military planning with the armed forces. | ” |
So both are acknowledged as contributing to the defense of Argentina in time of war. WCMemail 00:25, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Are similar, but for the Argentine government the gendarmería and the prefectura aren’t armed forces despite they can be mobilised during a war. For example there aren’t considered armed forces for the Spanish wikipedia article about this topic and there aren’t part of the joint staff. Hehex2020 (talk) 18:52, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
But the argentine government doesn't recognise it as armed forces. they are police force which can be mobilised during a conflict Hehex2020 (talk) 12:10, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
I am don’t saying that these two forces can’t be used as armed forces but for the government they aren’t armed forces. I the case of put them as armed forces is needy to put information about the security ministry Hehex2020 (talk) 19:56, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
okey, I think you are correct Hehex2020 (talk) 21:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Is need to put that the prefectura and the gendarmería are armed forces only during a conflict also in the infobox, because a lot of people only read the infobox, also according to the Argentinan government this two forces aren’t armed forces all time. Hehex2020 (talk) 14:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I don’t know why Are you so anger because I put an “only during conflict” Hehex2020 (talk) 16:53, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Angry* Hehex2020 (talk) 16:54, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Does that addition bother you so much? Is little Hehex2020 (talk) 17:08, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
“ | Article 9th: The members of the National Defence System are:
Article 31th: As members of the National Defence System, the Argentine Naval Prefecture and the National Gendarmerie, will develop in their respectives organic structures, the human and material resources nedeed by the [...] control and surveillance of the fronteers, territorial waters of the Nation and custody of strategic objetives, and the compliance of the others functions emergent in this law and others legal provisions that apply. The National Gendarmerie and the Argentine Naval Prefecture will depend organic and functionally of the Ministry of Defence, without prejudice to which, the time of war, its human and material resources or part of them, may be assigned to the respective strategic operational commands and territorial commands, as derived from the corresponding planning. |
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The current title is incorrect. The Argentine Armed Forces has not a official name (Fuerzas Armadas de la Repúblcia Argentina do not exists). The only name in the country laws is “Armed Forces” (Fuerzas Armadas). So, I propose move this article to Argentine Armed Forces.--Malvinero10 (talk) 03:02, 18 August 2020 (UTC)