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On 5 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Aimee Challenor to Aimee Knight. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Bilorv has reverted my edit:
In September 2018, The Times reported that Aimee Challenor contributed names of women academics to be blacklisted in a "smear campaign" because of their views on gender.[1]
Saying: Challenor is mentioned in passing in the source as having commented on a Facebook post, hardly the stuff of an encyclopedia article. The source provides no evidence Challenor had any editorial control over the creation of the list, nor that she participated in any form of "smear campaign", so this is guilt by association
AndyGordon (talk) 18:51, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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I see no issue with what was posted here, this isnt a guilty by association thing. This is a reliable secondary source stating that there was a list being made to shame and target academics with false allegations of hate crimes who had views on gender they disagreed with and that Aimee sought to contribute to that list. It should be included but not in its current form. The current form appears to lack context and I feel needs a little more to it before its acceptable for inclusion, perhaps something along the lines of...
"In September 2018, The Times reported that Natacha Kennedy, a researcher at Goldsmiths, University of London created and circulated a list of UK academics to be shamed as part of a smear campaign due to their views on gender on Facebook, where organisers reportedly plotted to accuse listed academics of hate crimes in order to have them ousted from their jobs. The Times also reported that Aimee Knight sought to contribute names of several academics to the list."
Though perhaps this puts a little more emphasis on Kennedy which might not be fitting in an article that is supposed to be about Aimee herself. In any case, its useful information and should be noted on this page. RedAlert 007 (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Aimee Challenor, [description of Challenor], was among those who responded to Ms Kennedy's post of August 14 to the Trans Rights UK Facebook group, with suggestions of who to blacklist. — Bilorv (talk) 22:04, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
Since the article is locked, let me propose a small but important change here instead, concerning this sentence:
This led to allegations that Reddit was removing all mention of Knight and banning users who mentioned her.
I would add the following to the end:
This led to allegations that Reddit was removing all mention of Knight and banning users who mentioned her, which was later confirmed by an administrator for the website to be true.
The relevant citation for that last part, being "verge2021-03" ("Reddit activated standard processes to protect the employee from such harassment, including initiating an automated moderation rule to prevent personal information from being shared..." and subsequent text).
This is an important distinction to make because the text currently reads more as "these are unfounded allegations" rather than "this is true and confirmed by reddit itself after the site-wide protests emerged". It's a tiny change with no downside to it that shouldn't be controversial as the citation used is already in the article so if someone with edit access could make it, it would objectively improve accuracy here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:7F0:B1C0:4503:8C6B:C35A:6C01:3C01 (talk) 05:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 04:33, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Aimee Challenor → Aimee Knight – WP:COMMONNAME, Knight is her legal surname and what she is most commonly known as. Google results show that "aimee challenor reddit" has 23,800 results, while "aimee knight reddit" has 2,150,000 results. GLORIOUSEXISTENCE (talk) 02:12, 5 June 2023 (UTC)