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The sites being used to replace Allkpop links are no better than Allkpop was. Newsway, The Dispatch, and Daum are not reliable sources. Daum is a search engine that aggregates other sites' stories. The other two are tabloids. Shinyang-i (talk) 15:10, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is not standard on Wikipedia to have hangul for every single version of every single name. Stage names are not real names; their hangul is not important. People's real names are what matter. If you feel there is insufficient information on each member, then find some actual biographical information on them (with reliable sources) and write it all up in prose. Then you can easily include the hangul to their stage name and given names in with all the information. If there is no biographical info in existence and they are that non-notable, then the hangul of their stage names hardly matter, do they? So please stop re-adding the stage name hangul along with their real names and hangul. Shinyang-i (talk) 07:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
– The groups that are the subject of these article are categorized as "girl groups" (except for the Indonesian group, are in Category:South Korean girl groups), and most of these are also described in the lede of their article as a girl group. Sources are also more likely to refer to or describe each of these as a "girl group", and not as a band - for example, Opinion: Why New “Inkigayo” Rulings on 19+ Music Videos Will Not Work (stating "Witness, for example, the debut of 4L, a girl group which has yet to appear on a single mainstream music show".); Bestie poses in school outfits for release of new digital mini-album (saying "Girl group Bestie surprised fans yesterday by announcing that it will release a new digital mini-album on Friday".); KISS reunites on ‘Sugar Man’, sings “Because I’m A Girl”, reveals reason they broke up (stating "Girl group KISS, which debuted in 2001, reunited on ‘Sugar Man‘"...); Girl Group Rainbow Confirmed To Disband; TWICE to drop new Japanese single album (stating "Girl group TWICE will put out a new Japanese-language single album titled "Candy Pop" on Feb. 7, its agency said Friday). As there has been some dispute as to whether an ensemble of singers who generally do not play any instruments constitutes a "band", these title changes will prevent any confusion by clearly identifying the nature of the ensemble. To the extent that some of these titles are ambiguous, it immediately distinguishes them by the type of performance in which they engage. bd2412T16:02, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - No. There's absolutely no reason for it. Beatles (boy group) doesn't exist - we don't classify bands by gender. Just because bands are referred to as girl groups on soompi.com doesn't mean we move pages. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalenciaᐐT₳LKᐬ16:22, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since it has the word "girl" in it and you wouldn't categorize male bands as a "girl group," it is ultimately gender-based. And we also have categories saying "Male country-singers" or whatnot, but we don't have that as an appendage to their name. To be fair I didn't realize this is a sort of term used within K-Pop, but I still see no reason to use it, especially when (band) is all there is currently. And well, NYSNC isn't NSYNC (boy band) either, if you get my point. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalenciaᐐT₳LKᐬ21:38, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the term girl group is contentious as it is considered by some to be derogatory and patronising to women and suggestive of youth, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 20:05, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose at this time per WP:WAW#Male is not the default. This is an essay, but it is applicable here. And I usually agree with bd2412, but not here. Category:American boy bands contains over 30 groups with disambiguators, none of which is forced to use "boy group" or "boy band." Category:South Korean boy bands has over 80 groups with disambiguators, none of which uses "boy group" or "boy band," etc. To distinguish "girl groups" from other groups while not distinguishing "boy groups" from other groups reinforces the biased idea that the "boy groups" are the norm. Dekimasuよ!21:02, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The ping didn't work, but I don't take any issue with the "group" part. At first glance I would be neutral in that case, not having reviewed the band vs. group issue much lately. Dekimasuよ!18:41, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Why not just use the disambiguator "music group"? It eliminates any implications of gender, age, and style of music. It is broad enough to include most (if not all) types of music ensembles, but also not overly vague like the usage of "group" is. ℯxplicit05:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but I support the change, but rather than “girl group” it should simply be “group”, per WP:BANDDAB. Adding “girl” simply isn’t necessary. However, if these groups are also being changed, then all the boy bands also need to be changed to group over band, including BTS (band) and Exo (band). Alexanderlee (talk) 13:44, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose all (band) is the standard dab here. These moves could potentially lead to duplicate articles being created and confusion. I noted 29 November 2018 Hiddenstranger moved page TSD (band) to TSD (group) reverted. That could refer to sleep disorders. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:03, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to (girl group) Band is like Beetles or Queen. But Red Velvet is not a kind of singer group like that. They aren't playing musical instruments, of course. And a girl group is a word using for the idol which consists by girl, and this shouldn't be gender topic. In Korea, the term 'girl group' is widely used as the meaning of "female idol" 인천직전 (talk) 11:03, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to (group) for both girl groups and boy bands as per WP:BANDDAB. However, "band" is clearly the most frequently used right now (there is 1 instance of "group" on Category:South Korean girl groups as opposed to 57 for "band"; similarly, there are 4 instances of "group" on Category:South Korean boy bands as opposed to 79 for "band"), and the classification of "band" seems to work quite well, being fitting enough and already common. Nevertheless, it would be good to follow WP guidelines since that is why they exist. ChromeGames923 (talk) 04:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to (group) except in cases where "(girl group)" is required for disambiguation. I would support moving boy bands to (group) as well. feminist (talk) 09:58, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to (group) per Alexanderlee's nomination. None of them play instruments, and thus aren't a band, but specifying "girl" is unnecessary, unless there happens to be a boy group with the same name. DanielleTH(Say hi!)15:30, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to (girl group), first choice, or (group), second choice. Moving away from (band) is required by the naming convention at WP:BANDDAB ("Use "(group)" when the musical ensemble members do not perform by playing musical instruments"). Opposition to including "girl" in the title seems to be WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS with an insinuation that being a girl, or being referred to as a girl, is bad. I agree with Roman Spinner that "girl group" is the musical term used in sources, and is not sexist or derogatory. I also think that much weight should be given to the comment by 인천직전, the only South Korean participant in a discussion on what groups from South Korea should be called. CNMall41 (talk) 07:30, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The new titles resulted in this move discussion are as follows: