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Citing security source, Lebanese TV reports Hezbollah commander was killed in strike | The Times of Israel Ksperber (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Strong support for using the word "attack". We need to be WP:CONSISTENT with our titles. The event that provoked this, an alleged rocket strike, is also called Majdal Shams attack.In a recently closed move discussion[3], users clearly preferred "attack" over "airstrike" to describe the Tel al-Sultan attack. Likewise there was significant discussion here on whether to use "attack" or "airstrike", that resulted in merger with an article with the title attack (13 July 2024 al-Mawasi attack). An April discussion found unanimous support to move the title away from "drone strikes" to "attack"[4]. Finally, "airstrike" typically implies something that comes from a manned aircraft, while in this case the attack came from an unmanned aircraft which is typically called "drone strike" not "airstrike".VR(Please ping on reply)00:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support for using the word "attack". As said above, WP:CONSISTENT. Changing the name to Beirut would only make sense if the attack became a series of attacks on other areas in Beirut. Similar to the attack for which this one was a retaliation to, that article was also named for the specific area bombed. And the word used was "attack". Should be an easy change for the sake of consistency. —AddieMaddietalk | contribs14:49, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose using the word attack or adding Beirut to the title. Some editors are claiming WP:CONSISTENT compels us to title articles about airstrikes as "attacks", yet this ignores the Category:2024 airstrikes page. Yes, some are titled attacks, but there are a variety of other titles being used, such as "airstrike", "strikes", and "missile strike". "airstrike" is in fact a more WP:PRECISE title than "attack", and for that reason we should continue using it here. I would also support changing the title from including "airstrike" to "drone strike". Gödel2200 (talk) 17:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, all airstrikes are attacks, but not all attacks are airstrikes, so in that sense, this would be over precision. But this is not how I am interpreting WP:OVERPRECISION. In my mind, it is meant to stop titles that are more precise but also make the title longer and more confusing. This is not the case here; if anything, using "airstrike" instead of the (very) general term "attack" is less confusing. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose using the word 'attack' in the title. Especially now with Hezbollah confirming Shukr's death, this was very clearly an assassination attempt. As such, this topic is synonymous with the Assassination of Saleh al-Arouri, which uses neither. This page also specifically cites the 'attack type' to be 'airstrike'. I would support moving the page to follow this model. They seem to be fairly identical operations, each conducted by some aerial projectile. Debartolo2917 (talk) 01:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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