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The article currently explicitly states that the suspect committed the crime in the lede. Since the suspect hasn't actually been convicted, it's extremely poor form and a BLP violation to prejudge the suspect in that way. Regardless of your personal opinions or the likelihood the suspect will be acquitted, it's wide consensus not to imply a living person has committed a crime until they've been convicted. I've added "allegedly" and other qualifiers to some parts of the article to reflect this. Chess (talk) (please use ((ping|Chess))
on reply) 21:21, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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on reply) 22:37, 4 June 2020 (UTC)It says in the article that Alek Minassian had been raised Christian. I've read before that he identifies as an atheist, and in a police interview, he said his parents never raised him in any religion.--Splashen (talk) 02:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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on reply) 02:24, 11 November 2020 (UTC)Yes, here is one right here.--Splashen (talk) 06:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC) https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-van-attack-police-interview
Nevertheless, I am inclined to accept the assessment of all of the experts that [Minassian] did lie to the police about much of the incel motivation he talked about and that the incel movement was not in fact a primary driving force behind the attack. I note as well that [Minassian]’s father commented that when his son was talking to Det. Thomas, he was using the tone of voice and demeanour that he would use when doing a presentation, as if he was acting a part. [...] he has never expressed hatred, or even anger, towards women, not even in his initial statement to the police [...] Accordingly, I agree with the assessors that [Minassian]’s story to the police about the attack being an “incel rebellion” was a lie. [...]I am sure that resentment towards women who were never interested him was a factor in this attack, but not the driving force. Instead, as he told every assessor, he piggybacked on the incel movement to ratchet up his own notoriety.
--Justice Anne Molloy, final sentencing of Minassian https://www.ontariocourts.ca/decisions/2021ONSC1258.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8806:0:C2:59F3:F307:3420:F033 (talk) 03:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
The request to rename this article to 2018 Toronto van attack has been carried out.
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Toronto van attack → 2018 Toronto van attack – The current convention on article titles for events, WP:NCEVENTS, demands that in the majority of cases
a date come before the article title. I see no good reason to make an exception here, especially given the fact that the article previously had the date in the title, until a unilateral move that did not respect the requested move process for controversial moves. Currently, this is one of the few articles from the List of vehicle-ramming attacks that lack the date in the title; adding the date would make it WP:CONSISTENT with the rest. Pilaz (talk) 13:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 13:50, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
when, in historic perspective, the event is easily described without it, but many sources refer to the event preceded with the year, which is a telltale sign that WP:NOYEAR shouldn't apply here: Reuters, the Canadian Encyclopedia, Toronto CityNews, GlobalNews.ca, this peer-reviewed paper, etc. Pilaz (talk) 23:50, 2 October 2022 (UTC)