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– MOS:COMMA. Commas are required "In geographical references that include multiple levels of subordinate divisions (e.g., city, state/province, country)." Mark Schierbecker (talk) 08:12, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Mark Schierbecker: Sorry about that. Somehow, I did not see that. Your reference appears to apply to usage within the article body, not article title. The bot box listed above states, "Please base arguments on article title policy". Mitchumch (talk) 08:49, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. Actually I edited after you @mentioned me. From the thousands of page moves, CfDs and RMs I've participated in over the years, it would seem that MOS would apply doubly to article titles. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 08:55, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. But I feel better about potentially having a wider discussion about the policy, as probably better than half of article titles don't have a comma after the state. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 09:06, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose all per long debates at MOS:COMMA, compromise for US metro areas at WP:USPLACE and Talk:Rochester, New York metropolitan area etc. These are titles, not running text, so it is incorrect and doesn't follow common usage to put an extra comma after the state name. A move of this nature was attempted twice at Talk:Rochester metropolitan area, New York/Archives/2013, and was rejected both times - eventually we found a much better compromise for that one and similar, that avoided that horrendous commafest, and perhaps we should try to do the same here. — Amakuru (talk) 14:10, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well actually I didn't really make a concrete proposal - it's tricky as we can't apply the Rochester model directly due to the presence of the year identifier as well. Probably your suggestion is almost good enough, although I'm a little uneasy about the "Ohio 2015" part. Probably we do need a comma there to give us Columbus mayoral election, Ohio, 2015 which at least is one comma fewer than the mouthful proposed above. On another note, at least in the case of Columbus, I think it's questionable whether we need the state on this article at all. We include it on the main article Columbus, Ohio, because of WP:USPLACE etc. and because it's ambiguous with Christopher Columbus, but that need not apply to subpages. In particular, I don't think we have articles on mayoral elections for any of the other Columbus localities, which means that Columbus mayoral election, 2015 would be perfectly adequate for this one and solve all issues. This wouldn't apply to Portland though, since there are two prominent examples there. So in summary, I think my preferred option would be Columbus mayoral election, 2015; Peoria mayoral election, 2013; and Portland mayoral election, Oregon, 2015. What think you? Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 19:48, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer using the main article disambiguation for all subpages - except for subpages of Phoenix, Arizona, which is a USPLACE exception. Articles which are unambiguously about a place called "Phoenix" do not need a statename qualifier. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 22:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru: I would oppose article titles without the inclusion of state names. There are 19 localities designated as Columbus - see Columbus#Places. Creating article titles that are not ambiguous the first time is better. Portland mayoral election, Oregon, 2015 is also fine. Leaving the article titles as they are now is preferable. Mitchumch (talk) 08:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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