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As not every infection by a given virus causes the associated disease(s), which is marked by one or more sets of overt symptoms, shouldn't every virus species have its own page? I'm trying to separate such pages at Wiktionary. The separation is made both more necessary and a bit easier by the massive renaming that the ICTV is pushing through and possible further revolutionary naming changes, such as binomial names. DCDuring (talk) 09:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
For various reasons, universal splitting probably isn't needed, but I suppose splits could be done for viruses that already have disease articles (though not vice versa i.e. not splitting diseases from virus articles unless the disease is notable on its own). Some kind of guideline may need to be added to WP:VIRUS's guidelines if this is done. I've gone through all redirects tagged under WP:VIRUS and found ~78 viruses that would be split from their accompanying disease article. This is probably close to all of them and most splits would be easy, so I don't imagine it being that burdensome of a task. A recent discussion about splitting Variola virus from Smallpox was held on the Smallpox article's talk page, so JzG and WhatamIdoing may want to comment as well. Velayinosu (talk) 02:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
First, in agreement with Ypna, we should stop being so anthropocentric. For example Tobacco mosaic virus would not benefit from splitting. Having said that, when splitting of clinically important articles has taken place, there can be unnecessary duplication. Take a look at Rotavirus and Rotaviral gastroenteritis for example. We have one Featured Article and a clinical article, clearly derived from it that has little to add. On the other hand HIV and HIV/AIDS nicely complement each other. Herpes simplex virus has some clinical content that correctly, is not included in Herpes simplex. On the other hand an argument could be made for merging Hepatitis B and Hepatitis B virus because it is, in my humble opinion, difficult to understand this disease without a good knowledge of the virus. We are not at a stage where we can have simple guideline on this: Every case needs an individual assessment. Graham Beards (talk) 08:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Do we want to go through the above list on each article's talk page or at a single location? Velayinosu (talk) 02:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
These two lists have not had their taxonomy updated but I am unsure about the best way to approach them. Virus Information Table may have been made via a bot or script but the user who wrote it is no longer active. I don't know how List of virus taxa was updated. I updated List of virus species and similar lists via Excel for ease but don't know how that would work for these two lists. Both are very long and would be very time consuming to update manually. Does anyone have any ideas? Maybe deleting them instead of updating? Velayinosu (talk) 01:35, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I think I'm almost done with the GA for an article I've put a lot of work into, Bat virome. The last sticking point seems to be the lead. The reviewer has requested a second opinion over concerns that the lead is too technical. Please do leave comments at the review page here so the GA for this important and topical article can finally finish! Thanks, Enwebb (talk) 20:55, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Can somebody knowledgeable please take a look at the viral interference article? There are a lot of different sources all with slightly different takes on this, and I'm finding it hard to integrate them all into the article. Is there a systematic review of the topic somewhere that could be of use for this? -- The Anome (talk) 10:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
More eyes might be helpful at Talk:Baltimore_classification#August_2020_rewrite,_expansion,_and_reorganization_of_Baltimore_articles — soupvector (talk) 04:35, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
In the viral neuraminidase article, it says
From the figure in the article that summarizes the influenza replication cycle, it looks to me as if the virus attaches to the exterior cell surface, not to the interior one. Is this correct, and should the word "interior" be removed? Thanks, AxelBoldt (talk) 02:53, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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ignored (help) It is a free PMC article. Graham Beards (talk) 19:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)Terrible article, very low detail and virtually no information. This is a rather important event for viruses and epidemics, but it is out of my knowledge range. Someone who is knowledgeable on the subject, please work on this. Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randyratrhombus (talk • contribs) 19:29, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
In the 2019 Riboviria ICTV document, Polymycoviridae is listed as a proposed unassigned family of Orthornavirae because it is dsRNA and encodes RdRp. In the species master list and the ICTV's website, however, it is listed as an unassigned family of Riboviria outside of Orthornavirae. How should we address this and future situations like this? Velayinosu (talk) 01:39, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Until additional genomic data are acquired and detailed analyses are performed, we propose not to assign genus Deltavirus to the realm Riboviria; to keep taxa Albetovirus, Aumaivirus, Papanivirus, Sarthroviridae, and Virtovirus unassigned to higher-ranked taxa within realm Riboviria; and to assign Birnaviridae, Botybirnavirus, Permutotetraviridae, and Polymycoviridae [proposed] to kingdom Orthornavirae but to leave them unassigned to higher ranks within this kingdom.
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:COVID-19 pandemic § Remove duplicated content. Important discussion relating to the treatment of viruses and pandemics such as HIV. This could set precedent for the treatment of other viruses so more input is welcome. ((u|Gtoffoletto)) talk 10:37, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
It might be useful to update Spillover infection. I ran across the term in an article about the search for SARS-CoV-2's origins, and I'd like to link to it on some pages. Specifically, I think it would be helpful to have information about how (un)likely it is to get the whole story for any particular event. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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I'm wondering if anyone knows what the lowest morphologically heterogenous taxonomic rank of viruses is. For instance, are there any genera where one species is icosahedral and another species is icosahedral-enveloped? If not, is there any such family? How high do you need to go until the answer is "yes"? Google search doesn't seem to be able to answer such an esoteric question. Ypna (talk) 14:47, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on improving the structure of SARS-CoV-2, specially at the separation of non-virology subjects that are currently placed under "Virology". A user pointed me on the templates structure made for diseases, as in WP:MEDORDER. However, that guideline has no template available for a page on a virus, which sometimes stand independent of the disease. A search on the archive of the talk page, led me to this diff with a specific proposal that did not received further consensus, it seems. Please visit the discussion and comment. Forich (talk) 17:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Should we be using a uniform pattern for common names for bacteriophage article titles? There is M13 bacteriophage and Bacteriophage P2 and WO virus. Velayinosu (talk) 02:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place at Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom#RfC_for_refactoring_of_"Timeline"_section about whether the timeline which is seen by some as being too long for the page should be moved to another article, cutdown or kept as it is. It needs a wider range of opinions to reach a consensus so feel free to add your view if you're interested. Llewee (talk) 21:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
For your information, the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses website (https://talk.ictvonline.org/taxonomy/) is now displaying an updated taxonomy; the 2020 release. This means that there are even more taxon articles to be created on Wikipedia. Also of note, the concept of type species has been abolished and so references to type species will need to be removed or converted to past tense. Ypna (talk) 10:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to request for someone knowledgeable to create an article for influenza mortality rate. I'm not sure where to best request an article – feel free to move this section somewhere suitable.
I came across this term in the article for the 1977 Russian flu:
> The Russian flu was relatively benign, with an estimated influenza mortality rate (not the infection fatality rate or the case fatality rate) around 5 in every 100,000 population, less than that of the typical seasonal influenza (~6 in every 100,000 population).
The cited paper says:
> the influenza mortality rate (IMR) of the 1977 flu was calculated to be <5 out of 100,000, less than typical seasonal influenza infections (IMR of 6/100,000 people)
It sounds like "influenza mortality rate" is a term of art in epidemiology with a distinct definition. So I think it would be great to have an article defining it.
-- Yihkrys (talk) 18:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I have created a stub for Canine coronavirus HuPn-2018 aka CCoV-HuPn-2018, a novel canine coronavirus found infecting children in Malaysia. Given that the patients had to be hospitalized and provided oxygen, and that this is a coronavirus that may be caught from dogs, it needs a look from editors here to make sure the article gets fleshed out. I am not very familiar with viral taxonomy, so please take a look. Thanks, Abductive (reasoning) 22:50, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
These viruses have never been classified as species by the ICTV, and they return zero results on PubMed, PMC, and GenBank, but they can be found in archived webpages of the ICTVdB. Overall, they seem to have very little notability. Velayinosu (talk) 02:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Yujia Alina Chan. She published recently on pangolin samples related to SARS-CoV-2, and tweets on the science of the origin of SARS-CoV-2. @JoelleJay:, said this of her (at Talk:Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2#Discussion_of_4th_origin_hypothesis: I would not trust anything coming from Alina Chan, who is just a postdoc (so, not an expert or authority on any topic) and moreover has been a prominent proponent of origin conspiracy theories
, and I would want confirmation from the experts in this project. Forich (talk) 22:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Please comment on the reliability of the podcast "This Week in Virology" to source information about SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#"This_Week_in_Virology"_(TWIV)_Podcast. Forich (talk) 06:01, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
For viruses that were previously classified as species and which are not considered strains/isolates of an existing species, what do we do with them? Isla Vista virus, Muleshoe virus, Rio Segundo virus, and Helenium virus Y are each this type of virus.[1][2] Do we keep, delete, merge, redirect, or something else? Velayinosu (talk) 02:56, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
I've added charts of statistics to Wikipedia:WikiProject Viruses/Statistics like what the U.S. Roads WikiProject does if anyone wants to take a look. Velayinosu (talk) 02:33, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I recently nominated two virus articles for deletion with the same rationale: both had very low notability with zero results on PubMed, no sequence information on GenBank, and no ICTV recognition. Since then, I found a few dozen articles like that, mostly of obscure plant viruses. In my opinion, just because a virus exists doesn't mean it should have an article, and I have considered whether there should be minimum notability criteria for viruses. The following is what I came up with:
What thoughts do you all have on this? If there is support for something like this, then we can work on it and add it to the WikiProject guidelines. Shibbolethink you participated in the deletion discussions so you might want to share your opinions. Velayinosu (talk) 02:40, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Please consider adding Category:Wikipedian virologists to your user page! In my head, I think this probably makes sense for anyone with an advanced degree (MS, PhD, MPH, MD) whose academic work has been primarily in virology or working on viruses. It's a good thing for processes like Wikipedia:Expert help. Thanks! :) --Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 21:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Please read the discussion on WP:RSN about the reliability for this topic, of the source:
Segreto, R., & Deigin, Y. (2021). The genetic structure of SARS-CoV-2 does not rule out a laboratory origin. BioEssays, 43, e2000240. https://doi.org/10.1002/bies.202000240.
Feel free to participate with your opinion on its reliability, the discussion is not new but I think it needs to be cemented it that avenue. Forich (talk) 22:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
When searching on the net for my virology course, I came up with some questions. They are listed as the following.
I tried to look up my Internet but ended up with some papers about the subtypes of a single type of virus, like influenza A. [1] I couldn't find any information purely on "viral subtypes". Additionally, Wikipedia haven't made it an article yet. Should we include the topic as a new article or we add it on an existing one? Is it worth creating a new article for? Zlover0407 (talk) 15:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
References
As the name implies it would be nice to see fresh eyes on this article. CaffeinAddict (talk) 01:52, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
The article SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant has just been created. Any help in improving it would be greatly appreciated. -- The Anome (talk) 18:45, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
I have found some new identifiers for SARS-CoV-2 variants here: https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/ The GISAID clade identifier for Omicron is GR/484A, and the Nextstrain clade identifier is 21K.
I have now created the property proposals Wikidata:Property proposal/GISAID identifier and Wikidata:Property proposal/Nextstrain identifier on Wikidata, to contain this information on the Wikidata entities for this and other relevant articles. If anyone would like to join the conversation there, that would be very helpful. -- The Anome (talk) 10:09, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Johan Hultin, the pathologist who discovered tissues containing traces of the 1918 flu from graves in the Alaskan permafrost, has died. Any help with the article would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 07:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Would there be any opposition to doing a joint task force? Elijahandskip (talk) 20:27, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2#Requested move 21 June 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
There is a Request for Comment at Talk:Investigations into the origin of COVID-19#RfC on first paragraph that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Please feel free to provide your input! Thanks. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 18:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
Just finished off the last 2 articles that still needed completion that are on the List of higher virus taxa. Those being Arnidovirineae and Nanidovirineae. Big achievement everybody, all virus taxon's of order/suborder and above are complete and there for the world to discover! Whoop whoop!!! Yirch (talk) 07:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Your input would be appreciated in the debate on Talk:History of smallpox. The article, the bulk of which was written before 2013, suffers from old age. A lot of new results published in 2016 and later are not reflected at all. Thanks for your help! Renerpho (talk) 02:13, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi, I have spent the past few days rewriting this (neglected) article. Any comments are welcome on the Talk Page there. Best. Graham Beards (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
I was just reading the [nomenclatural code for viruses and noticed a big change. It's article 3.21 (and the proposal for this can be found here). Virus species names now should be binomial; exactly two words, with the first word being the genus name (this is long-standing practices for plants, animal and prokaryotes). Virus species names may be Latinized, but are not required to be. This will take some time to implement. It appears most species on ICTV are still using non-binomial names.
The code doesn't address the status of existing non-binomial names that don't yet have a binomial; I feel like that is a big oversight. There are recently updated pages on ICTV that are using non-binomial names.
Virus classification mentions binomials being proposed, but the article needs updating. All (?) species articles will need to be moved as new names are accepted. Presumably ((Virusbox)) can eventually be deprecated in favor of ((Speciesbox)). Plantdrew (talk) 16:26, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
An example of the classification of a positive-sense RNA virus is: gill-associated virus (GAV); species Gill-associated virus; subgenus Tipravirus; genus Okavirus; subfamily Okanivirinae; family Roniviridae; suborder Ronidovirineae; order Nidovirales; class Pisoniviricetes; phylum Pisuviricota; kingdom Orthornavirae; realm Riboviria.
-Graham Beards (talk) 17:48, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2012 Middle East respiratory syndrome outbreak#Requested move 1 January 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. echidnaLives - talk - edits 02:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
An editor wants to remove SARS-CoV-2 from the list of spillover infections. Your participation would be appreciated at the relevant discussion. Thank you. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 16:24, 22 February 2023 (UTC) — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 16:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Investigations into the origin of COVID-19#Requested move 11 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 01:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Which of these is correct? can the draft/other class include non-drafts Webclouddat (talk) 02:55, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Draft:COVID-19 pandemic in Andorra is a redirect,
while Draft talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Andorra is not
??? Webclouddat (talk) 02:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
An editor has started an RfC about whether the announcement by the FBI and the U.S. Department of Energy that they support the COVID-19 lab leak theory should be in the lede of the COVID-19 lab leak theory article. Editors are invited to contribute. TarnishedPathtalk 01:56, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
I have found/thought of a format for making a/fixing a virus stub article, it includes articles with Pathology too
If its not a stub, like Human betaherpesvirus 5, than this format would not work
If pathology doesnt exist, virology does noot need to be said as a section; move rest up
Main paragraph : <>, also known as <>, is a _ of the _ <> - /1/. (Causes disease, diseases). __ serve as natural hosts./2/
== Pathology
=== Clinical signs
=== Diagnosis
=== Treatment
== Hosts/2/
== Name
== Taxonomy (sometimes called "Species")
== Virology
=== Genome
=== Structure/Morphology
=== Lifecycle
=== Cellular effects
=== Replication
== History
...
/1/:
if its a species, say the subfamily and family
if its a genus, say the subfamily, family, and suborder
if its a family, say the order, subclass, and class
... if X say X+1, X+1.5, X+2
/2/:
if less info; then do not have a whole section on it
>>> Webcloudd@their-talk-page 06:05, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
If we look at the info box in the article on SARS-CoV-2 we see it is a strain of the species SARS-related coronavirus, from the sub-genus Sarbecovirus. The only problem is that SARS-related coronavirus is (at least according to the article) the same thing as Sarbecovirus.
Seeing that Sarbecovirus was picked up as a sub-genus by the template, I assumed this must be correct when I edited SARS-related coronavirus, which had a similar issue. But now I see that articles about SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 have this issue, I thought I should try to get a consensus here before editing more articles.
This subject is confused slightly by the term "SARS-related coronavirus" being used in old texts (before SARS-CoV-2) to refer specifially to SARS-CoV-1, which was just called SARS-CoV at the time. I think the terms "SARS-related coronavirus" and Sarbecovirus are both now used to refer to clade of betacoronaviruses that includes both SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2.
I guess this is complicated by the definition of a species being harder for a virus than for sexually-reproducing organism, but I thought we should at least try to be consistent, unless there is a good reason not to.
Yaris678 (talk) 14:41, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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Zoonotic origins of COVID-19 has been nominated at Articles for Deletion. Interested editors may participate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zoonotic origins of COVID-19. TarnishedPathtalk 09:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)