1st Armoured Division (Poland)

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  1. Chumchum7 (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Piotrus (talk · contribs)
  3. Poeticbent (talk · contribs)
  4. Mariaflores1955 (talk · contribs)
  5. Robert Warren (talk · contribs)
  6. Bolekpolivka (talk · contribs)


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  1. Agree. Chumchum7 (talk) 21:57, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. Poeticbent talk 22:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree. Robert Warren (talk) 10:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Provided the rest of the parties agree, I think mediation is appropriate in this case. Andrevan@ 16:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Declined. Not all parties agreed to mediation within a week of filing. AGK 18:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orgasmic meditation

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  1. Voila-pourquoi (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Jack-A-Roe (talk · contribs)
  3. Flyer22 (talk · contribs)
  4. Claireislovely (talk · contribs)
  5. TheRingess (talk · contribs)
  6. Rectitudo (talk · contribs)


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  1. Agree. Voila-pourquoi (talk) 04:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Decline. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 04:49, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Decline TheRingess (talk) 17:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Decline Rectitudo (talk) 07:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties agree to mediation. Xavexgoem (talk) 03:49, 17 January 2010 (UTC) Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Israel[reply]

Kate Winslet

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  1. Abie the Fish Peddler (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Wildhartlivie (talk · contribs)
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  1. Agree. Abie the Fish Peddler (talk) 05:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Do not agree. This editor stepped in during the middle of a good article review to start rewriting the article, which effectively put the GAR in jeopardy. He has repeatedly refused to respond to why he would willingly jeopardize a GA review and why he would try to insert a rewrite 2 days after the article passed GA. There is nothing under dispute here except why an editor would willingly take action that undermines a GA review or status. The diffs presented do not show an effort at resolving anything. He refuses to answer direct questions regarding his motivation to render a stable article unstable during a quality review, while not even discussing it beforehand or participating in the GA nomination. That is the only thing that requires clarification here. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties agree to mediation. For the mediation committee, Xavexgoem (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Raza blanca

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My regards, people from Wikipedia, and congratulations for the great idea Jimmy Wales had. My User name is Pablo Zeta, and I am from Argentina. Forgive me for bothering you, but I have an editing dispute in the Wikipedia in my mother tongue, Spanish, and I don't know where to look for guidance. I file this request in the Wikipedia in English because I don't want my request to be intercepted by the two users/guardians I have the conflict with. The main problem is that I read the article about "White race" in your Wikipedia and I saw that my country is considered "White" because of his population being mainly of European ancestry -this is no news to me, I already knew it- and so I checked what was written in the same article in the Spanish Wikipedia, entitled "Blanco (persona)". There, in the regions and countries considered "white", Argentina and Uruguay -our neighbour country- were not included- so I included both. I considered not necesary to give referencies because this information appears in any geography book, but some editors didn´t agree and my edition was reverted. I agreed with one of the editors that, if I gave referencies of my sources, he wouldn't revert my editions. So I did , but this is when two new editors -one Chilean "JCEstepario", and another Spaniard "Ferbr1"- appeared. This two guys think they are owners of Wikipedia because they reverted all my editions arbitrarily, even when I referenciated them, and they answered that the concept of "white" had to be discussed first and we had to get to an agreement. I wrote all my argumentations in the talk page of the article, but they alleged that they were all "relative, depending on the point of view". I sent JCEstepario some proposals for edition of the page, but they have even refused to publish them in the talk page. Besides, I think I can be given a certain credit for living in the country I am writing about. Please, give me some guidance of what I should do in a case like this, I think the Wikipedia in Spanish deserves to have an article as good as the one you have in English, and not to have as editors two people who believe that Wikipedia belongs to them.--Pablozeta (talk) 19:06, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. Pablozeta (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. JCEstepario and Ferbr1 (talk · contribs)
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  1. Agree. Pablozeta (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Decision of the Mediation Committee

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Rejected - The Mediation Committee cannot formally accept cases from other wiki's. Prehaps approaching the Mediation Cabal is a good idea. However for mediation to work, it needs all parties to participate.

For the Mediation Committee

Seddon talk|WikimediaUK 17:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nayar – a caste from the South Indian state of Kerala

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  1. Sanam001 (talk · contribs),
  2. Anandks007 (talk · contribs)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nair#A_neutral_solution_for_dispute_resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nair#Another_content_dispute_resolution_option

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  1. Agree. Sanam001 (talk) 14:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Disagree: First, a thorough discussion should be conducted and third party opinion should be invited. Formal request for mediation is the last resort and used only when all other options are closed. Axxn (talk) 15:37, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Reject Not all parties have agreed to mediation.

For the mediation committee - Seddon talk|WikimediaUK 17:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Editors deleting appropriate content under news and media sources for Caribbean

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  1. Virginvoice (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Dawnseeker2000 (talk · contribs) - opposed to addition of link
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  1. Agree. Virginvoice (talk) 14:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Virgin voice, are there any other parties to this dispute to invite to this request for mediation? Thanks. Xavexgoem (talk) 14:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Rejected No previous dispute resolution. For the mediation committee - Seddon talk|WikimediaUK 17:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Avraham Debresser Newman Luke

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  1. Example (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Avraham (talk · contribs)
  3. Debresser (talk · contribs)
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Basically anything connected to Judaism

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I would like someone who is Not Jewish, nor interested in the bible or Judaism - basically a disinterested observer - to perform the mediation.

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  1. Agree. Newman Luke (talk) 03:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Disagree - User is already the subject of an RfC at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Newman Luke. -- Avi (talk) 03:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Furthermore, the main issue is not one of content, but of User:Newman Luke's behavior, so an RfMed is not the proper venue. The RfC is, which is why it was filed. -- Avi (talk) 03:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    RFM is for ANY mediation. I'm surprised you are so unwilling to try that first. Instead of talking about changes on article talk pages, you do it on AN/I. Instead of going to mediation, you go to RfC. Why is that? Why so much unwillingness to follow the official dispute resolution procedure? Its almost like you don't want to resolve the dispute, you just want to impose your will. Newman Luke (talk) 03:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties agree to mediation. For the mediation committee yo, Xavexgoem (talk) 04:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nayar-content dispute-3O and consensus failed

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  1. Sanam001 (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Anandks007 (talk · contribs)
  3. Suresh.Varma.123 (talk · contribs)
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  1. Agree. Sanam001 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Disagree - Clear 3O consensus on talk page. Suresh.Varma.123 (talk) 01:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties agree to mediation. For the mediation committee, Xavexgoem (talk) 09:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

((subst:Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/ Bethel Lutheran Church (Manassas, VA)))

1953 Iranian coup d'état

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  1. Binksternet (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Wayiran (talk · contribs)
  3. Kurdo777 (talk · contribs)
  4. BoogaLouie (talk · contribs)
  5. CasualObserver'48 (talk · contribs)
  6. Work permit (talk · contribs)
  7. Skywriter (talk · contribs)
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  1. Agree. Binksternet (talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. BoogaLouie (talk) 00:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree. CasualObserver'48 (talk) 01:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Agree. Work permit (talk) 03:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When notified of the request for mediation, I was not directed to this page for comment. I was directed to another page [44] where I did comment about the much broader problem with references. I am not experienced with Wikipedia admin procedures such as this and did not know a vote was required.Skywriter (talk) 22:22, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You were given the correct link in this notice... the link to this exact page. It does not matter, though, as your agreement would have made five of seven involved editors agreeing to mediation, when all seven were needed. Binksternet (talk) 03:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You are in error. I was directed to and commented here.[45]. I just clicked the link on my talk page and nothing else. I do not understand why you can not accept on good faith that I was not aware that a vote was needed on a separate page. It is possible that the other people did not know that either. Skywriter (talk) 17:02, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is water under the bridge, man. I gave everybody the exact same link... yours was in this notice that I posted—you can clearly see the link in the notice is to this page we are on now, the actual mediation page. Another proof can be seen at the "what links here" page. One final proof is that there is no link anywhere on your user talk page that points to "Wikipedia talk" on any subject whatsoever. Four editors figured it out and signed, three editors did not sign, and I do not pretend to know whether they figured it out or not. Even if one of them did not sign, it would have halted mediation. Don't worry about it. Binksternet (talk) 20:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties have voiced their disagreement explicitly on the list within a reasonable timeframe. For the mediation committee, Xavexgoem (talk) 03:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John J. Pershing

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  1. OberRanks (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. Mk5384 (talk · contribs)
  3. Father Goose (talk · contribs)
  4. Postoak (talk · contribs)
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  1. Agree. OberRanks (talk) 16:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. Postoak (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree. Mk5384 (talk) 17:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Decline mediation, for my reasons here.--Father Goose (talk) 03:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties agree to mediation. Xavexgoem (talk) 04:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Genesis Creation Myth

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  1. Weaponbb7 (talk · contribs), filing party
  2. EGMichaels (talk · contribs)
  3. Bus stop (talk · contribs)
  4. Cush (talk · contribs) Removed by rquest
  5. Lisa (talk · contribs)
  6. Afaprof01 (talk · contribs)
  7. PiCo (talk · contribs) Removed by Request
  8. Griswaldo (talk · contribs) Removed by Request
  9. Alastair Haines (talk · contribs)
  10. Ben Tillman (talk · contribs)
  11. UberCryxic (talk · contribs)
  12. Til Eulenspiegel (talk · contribs)
  13. Hans Adler (talk · contribs)
  14. Nefariousski (talk · contribs)
  15. HandThatFeeds (talk · contribs) removed by request
  16. Deadtotruth (talk · contribs)
  17. Professor marginalia (talk · contribs)
  18. Aunt Entropy (talk · contribs)
  19. JzG (talk · contribs)
  20. Noleander (talk · contribs)
  21. ScienceApologist (talk · contribs)
  22. David Eppstein (talk · contribs)
  23. Keahapana (talk · contribs)
  24. Ed Poor (talk · contribs)
  25. Ἀλήθεια (talk · contribs)
  26. Literaturegeek (talk · contribs)
  27. Akhilleus (talk · contribs)
  28. Grantmidnight (talk · contribs)
  29. NickCT (talk · contribs)
  30. Johnbod (talk · contribs)
  31. Labattblueboy (talk · contribs) removed by request
  32. Reboot (talk · contribs)
  33. Aindriahhn (talk · contribs)
  34. Plumbago (talk · contribs)
  35. Dbachmann (talk · contribs)
  36. Gabbe (talk · contribs)
  37. Tediouspedant (talk · contribs)
  38. Jfdwolff (talk · contribs)
  39. Swift as an Eagle (talk · contribs)
  40. Masterhomer (talk · contribs)
  41. Avraham (talk · contribs)
  42. Newman Luke (talk · contribs)
  43. Mk5384 (talk · contribs)
  44. History2007 (talk · contribs)
  45. Baseball Bugs (talk · contribs) THIS ISSUE IS UNRESOLVABLE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT GENESIS, IT'S ABOUT THE DUAL MEANING OF THE WORD "MYTH" Removed by request
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  1. Agree. Weaponbb7 (talk) 23:23, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. Masterhomer 00:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree. ─AFA Prof01 (talk) 01:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Agree Uncle Ed (talk) 02:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Agree. Alastair Haines (talk) 03:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Agree. - Lisa (talk - contribs) 03:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Agree. EGMichaels (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Agree. (However, I would appreciate a clarification of what "additional issue 2" is supposed to be about. I am not aware of such a dispute.) Hans Adler 03:58, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Agree. Ἀλήθεια 04:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Agree. to issue 1 - the use of the term "Myth" in the article title. I am in agreement with Hans Adler that I am unaware of specific disputes regarding additional issue 2. -- Avi (talk) 06:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Am I a party? I have an opinion but I don't think I've edited the article. However, if this finally nails the endless pushing for a rename then I'm all for it. Guy (Help!) 08:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Disagree. Notconfirmed as a "myth" The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 08:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Agree. Ooops, misred that. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 11:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Take my name off the list. This debate is not about whether Genesis is a "myth", it's about the meaning of the word "myth" itself. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots11:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    (Chit chat removed.) AGK 22:03, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Disagree - simply because I am not editing frequently and do not wish to hold up proceedings. Mediation can continue without me if necessary. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 16:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    No longer a listed party. AGK 23:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  16. AgreeMk5384 (talk) 16:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Agree NickCT (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Agree Aindriahhn (talk) 00:51, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Agree Quietmarc (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Agree Grantmidnight (talk) 18:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Please take my name off the list - I won't be editing this article any more. (That should make Lisa happy! :) No hard feelings, but this just goes on and on and... PiCo (talk) 05:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    No longer a listed party. AGK 23:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Please take my name off the list - I won't be editing this article any more. (That should make Lisa and Weaponbb7 very happy) this whole creationist/religionist POV-pushing has gone way too far · CUSH · 10:07, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Agree. This is solvable potentially. Although I'm pessimistic. The mediator will be well-advised to ensure everyone holds their tongue when labelling others (eg "creationist") as it's most unhelpful. If everyone can remember that all of us merely want Wikipedia to be the best it can be within its own definitions, policies and guidelines, we can get somewhere. --Dweller (talk) 12:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Disagree. RFC would probably be a better option, but this is one of those articles destined to draw eternal controversy.UBER (talk) 21:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  25. Agree. --AuthorityTam (talk) 02:38, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Disagree. I don't see why making a one-time comment on an RFC should cause me to have to be involved with this article on a longer-term basis. So please carry on without additional input from me. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:08, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Agree. SAE (talk) 20:43, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Agree. --Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 21:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Agree Johnbod (talk) 01:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Disagree. There is nothing to mediate. Consult a dictionary. The article title is highly appropriate and by definition compatible with all points of view.

    How come I was not notified about this, although my name is on the list? DVdm (talk) 13:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties accept mediation. For the mediation committee Xavexgoem (talk) 09:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC) [reply]

KoshVorlonNaluboutes,Aeria Gloris 20:28, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Tao 2911 misrepresents my position with regards to Adi Da. My statement regarding this has been posted at my user page [[46]] since August 2008.
Adi Da founded the new religious movement called Adidam. He also became a critically acclaimed artist and writer. There are many things to cover about his life and work. A part of his story has to do with public controversy that arose in 1985.
It is alleged that in January 1985, disgruntled former members of the Adi Da church sent the church a letter demanding $5.2 million dollars. They said that if their demands were not met, they might "undertake to destroy" the church. (Source: MIll Valley Record, April 17th, 1985, "Da Free John Sect Sues Ex-Members on Extortion Charge") In April of 1985, a local media campaign that lasted a few weeks announced the filing of a lawsuit that the media was calling the "sex-slave suit". The lawsuit affadavit was the source of many salacious claims and asked for 5.2 million dollars. The Sausalito attorney who wrote the affadavit , David Cunningham, who resigned from the bar in 2001 in the face of misconduct violations , later died broke, a transient, and before Marin County authorities could bring Fraud charges against him in April of 2006. (Source: Marin Independent Journal , May 2 2006, "New Twists in Case of Tiburon Bleeding Death" ) The lawsuit was later thrown out of court due to lack of evidence, but a settlement was also reached. So there are two sides to this rather complex story.
This lawsuit and the media campaign associated with it is the only event in the history of the church where mainstream sources have printed allegations of "Adi Da forcing members to engage in psychologically, sexually and physically abusive and humiliating behavior, as well accusing the church of committing tax fraud." And for it's part the Adi Da church did admit to sexual experimentation, but said no one was forced, and no laws were broken.
Since that time however, an Anti-Adi Da, hate based website appeared that posted all of the negative coverage from 1985 and included a chat-room where anonymous posters could post their comments on Adi Da. From this process many more salacious claims surfaced. This website has since changed it's format and removed the articles. [47] However it was used as a source for some fringe print sources and another website emerged more recently that archived many of the anonymous posts from the chat-room still giving new life to the controversy, [48]. This site carries a heavy disclaimer: [49] Many of these posts are highly inflammatory and if one believes them, could become very upset.
From my POV, the Adi Da article should cover the 1985 controversy, but with proper weight and neutrality considering not only prominence criterion, per WP:UNDUE, but also considering event importance to the subject. From WP:UNDUE: "An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject. For example, discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and neutral, but still be disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic."
I find that in it's current form the article is full of injected bias that uses mainstream sources from the 1985 media campaign and then fringe sources to repeatedly bring up negative assertions about Adi Da as though in each instance they were separate events. It's a sort of shotgun effect using one shell to make many holes.
Instead I feel that it is up to Wikipedians to use the Wiki process to sort this all out and present a well-sourced, neutral article that is a service to people looking for information on this subject. As such we must purge ourselves from representing any bias either way.
Tao2911 states that in his opinion "90%, of the independent tertiary information available on Adi Da concerns the controversy surrounding him" [[50]] and I believe this opinion drives him to feel that the entire article should be peppered with references that support the claim that this controversy and the behaviors alleged were true, proven, and on-going throughout Adi Da's life. But in fact there are no reliable sources to support such a claim.
The most recent somewhat mainstream media account (alternative newspaper but with editorial staff) focusing on Adi Da was in 1999 from Humboldt Counties North Coast Journal, in which I count 8 critical paragraphs and 50 neutral ones. [51] While they do bring up the 1985 controversy right away, they do not focus on it, nor do they make the inference that these allegations were ongoing, as the current WP article seems to infer. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sourcing and "source stacking" has become an issue. When I have brought a challenge to a particular passage with NPOV concerns regarding weight and proportionality, the response from Tao2911 has been instead of seeking consensus, he stacks multiple sources next to the challenged statement, even though each source does not verify the statement in full, but perhaps instead, some aspect of the statement. Such as in the lead section, "In later years, while he continued to garner praise for his ideas, he was also criticized for what some perceived as his increased isolation, eccentric behavior, and cult-like community.[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]" "
Who are the some who perceive this? And the sourcing is either questionable sources, or sources from 1985. When you review the sources, some may express the opinion that Adi Da was isolated, but most if any do not say that he was eccentric or that his community was a cult. So in this instance I believe that the whole edit is pushing a POV and may be engaging in synthesis . There was already a summary of the controversies section in the lead. So now we have the lead saying that Adi Da was eccentric, isolated, cult-like, and was accused of financial, sexual and emotional abuses. I think the lead now is biased due to this inclusion. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Beginning during a phase known as the "Garbage and the Goddess" in 1974 (the underlying philosophy of which was documented in a book of his lectures by the same title), Bubba Free John began employing a method of teaching he called "crazy wisdom", including directing his followers in "spiritual theater", a form of "psychodrama" that often involved public and group sex, the making of pornographic movies and other intensified sexual practices. Drug and alcohol use were often encouraged. These techniques were said to be used in order to help "shock" students into insights regarding neurotic patterns and attachments.[41][42][43][44][45]"
Once again there is the stacking of sources even though the majority of these sources do not mention anything about " public and group sex, the making of pornographic movies". The only mainstream sources are from the 1985 controversy, the rest are fringe or questionable. The overuse of quotation marks lend a non-neutral tone. The amount of detail could be a way of injecting bias as well. Once again the 1985 controversy is being treated as another separate event within the article. I believe this is a violation of NPOV. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Recently, without consensus, Tao2911 merged the controversies section with the biography section. [[52]] He then amplified the contentious claims, used source stacking, and without consensus, removed information regarding the churches counter-claim of extortion. [[53]]
These edits are a clear example of POV pushing in my opinion. Removing well sourced information thereby making it impossible for the reader to make up his own mind. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I hope that Tao2911 does not now, having seen this argument, make changes to the article. We have an agreement not to do this as it undermines our ability to determine these issues as set forth. Thanks for your time and effort. I appreciate your making this process available. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Since filing this request for mediation, Tao2911 has made over 130 edits to the Adi Da article. [[54]] He ignores requests for consensus while demanding it of others. This makes it very difficult to have a consideration regarding content since he is always changing content on his own, while denying this right to others. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:30, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I simply find so much of this to be useless hearsay (we are not retrying the case on Adi Da in 1985, so the paragraph about the lawyer is especially perplexing), and simply not born out by the page, that I am reluctant to respond to each point. I will only say that I have recently been moving some citations to more specific locations in passages in question, cleaned up some citations that were left from previous versions/edits and needed to be culled, have added footnotes in many cases to show source passage, and in a couple of cases have removed sources Starr found unacceptable because I have gained access to better root source texts that provide no room for dispute.

The primary texts for the page are now:

-New Religions in America, a 3 editor, two-dozen writer, 5 volume encyclopedia of the kind recommended as ideal by WP.

-Holy Madness, by Georg Feuerstein, 1992. Feuerstein is the preeminent scholar of yoga/Hindu traditions in the US, with many dozens of books in print. he was a one time admirer of Adi Da, and this 1992 book reflects a balanced admiration while explaining that his "crazy wisdom" teachings are radical by nature, and controversial. Many of the passages contested above by Starr are virtual quotes from this book. He had inside access to Adi Da, and the seeming tacit approval of the community for his chapter on Adi Da. GF changed his opinion years later, and a 2006 edition is more critical as he admits in the introduction to it. This is discussed in the entry in 'reception' section. 2006 entry is used not at all or sparingly, and then contextualized as such.

-Different editions of Da's own autobio, the early editions of which contain much info excised from later versions.

-News stories, the bulk of which are from 1985 sex abuse allegations and exposes on the community. These again are contextualized to deal with the periods in question, and are not used to provide general info on Adi Da's bio or philosophy etc. Much of the material in stories deals with a period spanning a decade ('74-86), and all of it relates to the practice of the religion, so there is some overlap. It is not compartmentalized into "a couple disgruntled followers sued the guru." Allegations were widespread, as were admissions of sexual experimentation by the church, and controversy was devastating to the community and guru, as other source accounts report (Holy Madness, New Religions.)

There are a few others, including Da books often recommended by a follower in 'talk' who knows the lit well, and we have worked together to include passages to clarify teachings. but these other sources are not heavily relied upon. Those listed above are primary.

There is not a single citation or allegation that comes from these websites Starr speaks of, and I have spent little time wasted looking there, as I want this entry to work per WP standards.

I have made changes in order to actually address some of Starr's concerns (like condensing 'allegations' section into bio to remove needless repetition of said allegations - before this mediation request). Recent edits are of the kind I explain above - citations, footnotes, clarifying language in line with tertiary sources acquired, etc.

I maintain the entry reflects available information in much the same proportion it is presented in an overview of that info - most of which I have read in researching this entry. The majority of news stories of course deal with controversy - but that info is presented as such, and is not more than 25% of total entry. Adi Da was controversial, as the first line states, and the entry must say why. it does so in a balanced an neutral fashion - everything is cited, and sources are within standards.

I really have nothing more to say than that. I think it will take review by outside parties to resolve this. Tao2911 (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. Agree. Tao2911 (talk) 02:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. Devanagari108 (talk) 22:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree. David Starr 1 (talk) 21:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  1. AgreeJason Riverdale (talk) 01:02, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Accept I will get a mediator onto this ASAP.

For the Mediation Committee. Seddon talk|WikimediaUK 01:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Decline - (A) one user was blocked for a significant period of time, indicating conduct issue, (B) no mediator has picked up the case. Xavexgoem (talk) 10:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Institute for Near East Policy

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Issues from George

Shamir1 and I disagree slightly on what the issues are, or at least how to best phrase them. I don't think it's something that will prevent mediation, but for completeness I'll outline my understanding of the issues of disagreement in my own words:

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  1. Agree. Shamir1 (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Agree. ← George talk 02:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Agree! Plot Spoiler (talk) 21:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties have indicated acceptance within a reasonable timeframe. For the mediation committee, Xavexgoem (talk) 10:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I brought this up for discussion at Talk:Revised Romanization of Korean, the article that Bluesoju directed me to. Bluesoju is evidently not very familiar with Korean romanization, or at least did not read that article carefully, for it uses examples of the format Bluesoju objects to. At issue is the distinction between phonetic and morphophonemic transcription, which in the case of hangul is more or less transliteration. The former is the default of Korean romanization (found in signs, maps, names, government titles, etc.), but the latter is also used, for example in grammars, and is appropriate when morphology is under discussion, as it is at the disputed article. We need a morphophonemic transcription because per the MOS (and common sense) we should not rely on hangul to explicate the phenomena under discussion. For example, the verb 있 is transcribed phonetically as iss, it, ik, in, etc. depending on what follows. However, those changes can all be predicted if the reader knows that the underlying form is iss. This is clear in the hangul but not in Bluesoju's preferred format, putting readers who are not familiar with hangul at a disadvantage when trying to understand the article.
Anyway, more than this one article is potentially affected, so IMO there should be discussion among the editors of the articles on the Korean language on transcription formats. kwami (talk) 10:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. Agree. Bluesoju (talk) 07:52, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Decline - not all parties have indicated acceptance within a reasonable timeframe. For the mediation committee, Xavexgoem (talk) 10:00, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]